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In reply to the discussion: Reality Check - the angst about President Biden isn't just by the media and the misled... [View all]sop
(18,536 posts)12. Are there a growing number of Republicans - highly informed and politically engaged - saying Trump should
step aside? It's become abundantly evident to everyone who hasn't been living in a cave for the last eight years that Trump is totally unfit to be president, so why aren't we hearing similar reports from well-connected Republican insiders that their funding circles are demanding Trump step aside? Maybe you could explain it to us.
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Reality Check - the angst about President Biden isn't just by the media and the misled... [View all]
brooklynite
Jul 2024
OP
I take it you haven't noticed that there's been wall to wall coverage regarding our current nominee?
shrike3
Jul 2024
#53
I'm not. I'm just attempting to explain to someone else that if Joe did drop out, it would have to go to Kamala.
shrike3
Jul 2024
#231
If this party thinks black women will save its ass after being side stepped it will be a deserved reckoning of the ages
MistakenLamb
Jul 2024
#173
I'm with you, shrike3. We will LOSE this election if they take Biden/Harris off the ticket.
BComplex
Jul 2024
#124
The Biden Harris ticket is a proven commodity. Argue against that if you will.
BootinUp
Jul 2024
#36
There is a way to change the system. Its not the "Only I can fix it method." nt
BootinUp
Jul 2024
#86
You don't run away from the Presidents record that's why losing the incumbency argument is so damn foolish
MistakenLamb
Jul 2024
#197
How much "energy" do they need to vote for Democracy? How would you recognize it?
MorbidButterflyTat
Jul 2024
#264
Do you have polling data to support your claims of enthusiasm all around you?
Big Blue Marble
Jul 2024
#299
Your return if dems win is continued support of African American people and communities
oldmanlynn
Jul 2024
#241
It's my understanding that only Harris would be able to access money raised for Biden-Harris.
shrike3
Jul 2024
#168
If Biden's off the ballot, the Heritage Foundation has vowed to sue to keep him on it in the swing states.
shrike3
Jul 2024
#233
The problem with your scenario is that this dark horse won't have any money, and only a couple of months to raise any.
LudwigPastorius
Jul 2024
#106
Try and imagine what the Republican reaction will be if we pull Joe from the ticket at this point
Walleye
Jul 2024
#22
Isn't that why there is a demand for Joe to step aside? Because the Republicans think he looks old?
Walleye
Jul 2024
#183
That is the OLD system which is now dead and buried and has been for YEARS. Moot point.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#43
Yes, let's definitely reestablish the customs from over 50 years ago.
MorbidButterflyTat
Jul 2024
#85
Look, if that happens there would be a discussion of why, then if you still feel that way, I may feel the same way. nt
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#103
"no other name will make it on the ballot in time" I believe this is not correct. nt
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#96
the media blitz and turmoil that will happen if he does drop out and anoint another person (VP Harris of course)
yellowdogintexas
Jul 2024
#3
Oh for christ sake. If others wanted to have run they could have. They didn't. Game over. Just please stop.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#49
It WOULD be. We have a primary system. Hell, Joe wasn't even on the ballot in NH and he won it.
shrike3
Jul 2024
#80
I really don't understand their objective, do they want him to resign the presidency? Do they know what that would invol
Walleye
Jul 2024
#287
Could voters have written in their choice in the primaries if they didn't want an effective Democratic president?
MorbidButterflyTat
Jul 2024
#97
NBC: "Biden wins the New Hampshire Democratic primary as a write-in candidate"
JonAndKatePlusABird
Jul 2024
#211
If there had been substantial discontent with President Biden within the party
thucythucy
Jul 2024
#263
They would love to run against Kamala. They only have to say that she laughs out loud. They don't like women.
Walleye
Jul 2024
#28
Me too I can picture the whole scenario if we pull Joe out of there, and the delight of the Republicans
Walleye
Jul 2024
#39
Are there a growing number of Republicans - highly informed and politically engaged - saying Trump should
sop
Jul 2024
#12
My focus is on electing Democrats. So is the focus of my friends and political acquaintances.
brooklynite
Jul 2024
#21
I only hope if Joe does drop out, and we lose, someone will step up and take responsibility for this fiasco
Walleye
Jul 2024
#31
Either move has a lot of risks. But I think blindly muddling trough will cost us presidency and likely Congressional seats
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#38
I just happen to think that Joe Biden knows a lot more about winning elections than I do
Walleye
Jul 2024
#41
Me too and if he were clearly winning we wouldn't be discussing this. But he's not clearly winning.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#47
No joke. And I don't feel like watching us lose on Nov 5th, especially to a POS GOPer.
Silent Type
Jul 2024
#58
I don't recall any attitude at that time that "of course" Mondale would win.
Ocelot II
Jul 2024
#114
I would love to give my 2 cents, but I believe EarlG is asking us not to engage with this line of thought. Am I wrong?
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#14
You will have to convince me that telling them to buck up is the wrong approach. Of course you ignore me anyway. nt
BootinUp
Jul 2024
#16
And which one do they think will keep NATO together and stability in the world.
Walleye
Jul 2024
#45
And how many of them, like you, thought Dean Phillips was going to win the New Hampshire primary? They are obviously
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#40
Senators Harris, Warren and Sanders, plus a couple dozen of their congressional colleagues did
MichMan
Jul 2024
#228
Notice. Its the big money folks. They think it buys them special say in the matter. Fuck our votes.
BootinUp
Jul 2024
#66
There are no "bed-wetters" or "spineless weaklings" that want Biden out. But I do think
Autumn
Jul 2024
#68
The media has been reporting that yes, donors are saying they'll withhold contributions unless Biden steps aside.
femmedem
Jul 2024
#120
Did they explain how suddenly putting ourselves at a financial disadvantage
Qutzupalotl
Jul 2024
#73
Hopefully they are now discussing Trump's theft of classified document theft and Judge Cannon nt
lostnfound
Jul 2024
#81
Spot on! Perfectly said. Trump and the MAGATS are laughing their asses of right now at the Dem Party.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#99
No the jackass Carville has been talking to big donors not to donate unless Biden steps down. Bullshit
JohnSJ
Jul 2024
#119
I will vote for Biden in November but I understand the angst among Democrats.
Lonestarblue
Jul 2024
#134
Reality check? What makes you think that YOUR candidate funding circle is right. If I recall correctly some of
JohnSJ
Jul 2024
#151
How do you know any of that is real. Anyone can say anything, claim to be anyone and how do we know. Shit, I am the
debm55
Jul 2024
#180
I honestly don't know what to think any more with the media and press with their stories,
debm55
Jul 2024
#220
Thank you, LeftinTX. But twitter is not working for me. I do see President Biden with a person--I guess it's chris. then
debm55
Jul 2024
#245
So? James Carville has "real legitimate contacts in the echelons of power in the Democratic Party", and
JohnSJ
Jul 2024
#257
So the position of your group of money givers has decided that the entirety of Democratic leadership has failed.
Gore1FL
Jul 2024
#171
Every successful Presidential re-election involves both doing the day job and successfully campaigning...
brooklynite
Jul 2024
#217
Do your concerned donors have a plan for when the ballot change is challenged in swing states?
shrike3
Jul 2024
#250
RE you saying you don't think there are serious concerns among the Democratic diaspora?
brooklynite
Jul 2024
#224
Mainly, brooklynites focus is on communicating info from the braintrust* to the masses*. nt
BootinUp
Jul 2024
#254
Maybe I missed it, but who do you and your "significant candidate funding circle" suggest
thucythucy
Jul 2024
#260
Or maybe it's just information that we have heard ad nauseam and don't need a
Scrivener7
Jul 2024
#293
Well coming here and repeating this propaganda endlessly is not helping either
Tumbulu
Jul 2024
#290
Here's some historical perspective on why you cannot change candidates at this late date
LetMyPeopleVote
Jul 2024
#314