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Bucky

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21. Updated
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 06:48 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Wed Jul 10, 2024, 08:27 PM - Edit history (3)

I was wrong about the Chip50 report not existing. It wasn't to be found where I looked on their site, but it's a new report and appeared in a different spot on their site. My mistake

I don't think I was wrong to point out that PoliticusUSA news source is not to be trusted, ever, even if (allegedly) their bias is to the left. They're clickbaity and full of cookie-spewing ads.

I'm relieved Biden isn't bleeding support after the debate performance. I think it speaks well to our voting base that they're standing by our candidate because the issues are so critical--the strength of our imperfect democracy is on the line in this election.

I'm still not much encouraged by polls that show Biden not losing support when his polling averages are running 3½ points behind Trump. I'll be encouraged when Biden gets out there and starts prosecuting the fuck out of the criminal con artist we're running against. I'll be encouraged by polls when they quit showing must-wins like New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, & Michigan with Trump leading. Then I'll quit having nightmares about Trump appointing Thomas and Alito's 40-something replacements next year.

But let my stupidity stand below. I googled poorly. I'm not in a sanguine mood about our politics right now.



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Original post below:

I looked at the CHIP50 website and didn't find this analysis. I found one article, written on July 3 before any polling came out, but it's just one academic's assessment of what influence the debate might have had. Here. He was equally critical of both candidates:

“There was no reason for Biden to wait 45 minutes to mention Trump is a convicted felon,” Panagopoulos says.

Asked if he would accept the outcome of the 2024 election, Trump seemed to dodge, saying that “he wouldn’t even be here” if Biden was “a good president.”

“In the end, I don’t think this debate will change much,” Panagopoulos says. “Neither candidate scored any major points or landed any knock-out punches, and all it did was reinforce both candidates’ main weaknesses: perceptions that Trump is a liar and that Biden is too old.”


That's kind of what the PolticusUSA article concludes, but doesn't have all that data.

I googled a number of variations on "chip50 biden debate crisis bogus media creation" but got no results except for the OP's article (and this very DU thread). Why is no one else covering this?

So I googled PoliticusUSA and I found this caveat on their Wikipedia page:

PoliticusUSA is an American left-wing website that publishes hyperpartisan clickbait. Its content has been described by academic studies and journalistic reports as "unreliable," "misleading," and "fake". It is among the most popular U.S. political websites.


I think we can write off this article as bullshit

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Well, now there's a surprise. Wednesdays Jul 2024 #1
Yes, I thought the corporate media hissy fit senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #2
😂😂😂 Rebl2 Jul 2024 #7
I'm just as shocked as you are. CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #8
Do what I do. BidenRocks Jul 2024 #53
There's an agenda! homegirl Jul 2024 #80
Nearly all major media owned by Billionaire Republicans or Rupert Maddock NotHardly Jul 2024 #39
To me this just stinks of putin/kgb/fsb disinfo campaign..It's in the dictators play book😁...nt mitch96 Jul 2024 #72
K & R MN2theMax Jul 2024 #3
This may be so but the debate happened two weeks ago and instead of doc03 Jul 2024 #4
No member of Congress has agreed to bring his/her concerns to Biden. ucrdem Jul 2024 #6
If he stays in the media will not back off until they make Biden lose. The best chance we have is doc03 Jul 2024 #13
So a bunch of overfed and overpaid scribblers in NYC and DC decide who the Dem candidate is? paleotn Jul 2024 #18
We went through all this in 2016 when we heard "we got this" "the blue wall" nt doc03 Jul 2024 #20
This isn't 2016. Stop being manipulated. paleotn Jul 2024 #23
Yes stop it! triron Jul 2024 #57
We will not win without Joe Keepthesoulalive Jul 2024 #28
Agree. They want him out for a reason. If they thought he wasn't going to win, they'd do nothing. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #29
and based on cspan callers, etc. happy feet Jul 2024 #74
Yep. Like "Hillary is at death's door...Hillary's emails...etc." Then James Comey sank japple Jul 2024 #34
Biden won't lose! Despite the corporate media. KPN Jul 2024 #37
If they were Rethugs BidenRocks Jul 2024 #48
I voted for Joe Biden, not for Disney, Murdoch, Koch, Mercer, Sinclair, Comcast, et.al. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #49
There's a Lawrence O'Donnell clip at the Cable News Forum here on DU wnylib Jul 2024 #71
Facts should matter Progressive dog Jul 2024 #5
Lamestream media mode returns to exploit oasis Jul 2024 #9
I have quit BidenRocks Jul 2024 #50
Plenty more useful amusements out there oasis Jul 2024 #51
Yes! And I STILL say that his microphone was not working very well. raging moderate Jul 2024 #58
debate needs to be tossed aside anyway. oasis Jul 2024 #59
You think? valleyrogue Jul 2024 #10
And just one more thing... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #11
The moment he announces Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #44
Oh no's‼️ Republicans hate educated people and factual information. live love laugh Jul 2024 #12
Every accusation is a confession... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #56
TURNOUT is always the name of the game....more so now than ever!!! Moostache Jul 2024 #14
Yes! We need to GOTV!!! CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #65
There will be only one poll that matters in 2024. Wednesdays Jul 2024 #78
K & R BadgerMom Jul 2024 #15
Totally manufactured bullshit blue-wave Jul 2024 #16
The media certainly thinks it sees blood in the water. calimary Jul 2024 #17
George needs to shut the fuck up. paleotn Jul 2024 #19
Well, Clooney is an actor but I'm guessing you supported his backing Biden and raising lots of money for him elocs Jul 2024 #75
It was a requiem mass on Wallace's Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #47
Updated Bucky Jul 2024 #21
IT IS NOT A FRAUD Bev54 Jul 2024 #26
Thanks. It was not easy to find. That's why I walked thru my process Bucky Jul 2024 #30
I googled Chip 50 debate and it was the first thing that came up Bev54 Jul 2024 #33
I suggest you delete this comment. Bev54 Jul 2024 #27
Will amend. Bucky Jul 2024 #32
Oh lookee first try orangecrush Jul 2024 #41
I have been reading You Tube comments and 99.9% BigmanPigman Jul 2024 #22
no shit. barbtries Jul 2024 #24
Probably not orangecrush Jul 2024 #40
Please everyone send this to their dem representatives and senators Bev54 Jul 2024 #25
they tried the same shit i France and the UK edisdead Jul 2024 #60
me shocked . nah. AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #31
+1... myohmy2 Jul 2024 #35
M$greedia wants its horse race for dollars and its owners want deregulation and tax cuts. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #36
Ding Ding Ding, Winner here! Grolph_ Jul 2024 #43
The real questions are WHY and WHO orangecrush Jul 2024 #38
I read manufacturing consent proud patriot Jul 2024 #42
Please explain BlueSky3 Jul 2024 #46
Manufacturing Consent FuzzyRabbit Jul 2024 #61
Good movie. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #77
It's a small book proud patriot Jul 2024 #68
Thanks! BlueSky3 Jul 2024 #70
Ha! mahina Jul 2024 #76
The election rburns24 Jul 2024 #45
I'm shocked I tell you to read this! kimbutgar Jul 2024 #52
We can't unsee what we saw at the debate. I'm worried but I'll vote for any D though. dsp3000 Jul 2024 #54
I figured as much. triron Jul 2024 #55
Fascinating to find confirmation of the MSM playing meme games with the election, and the truth. Ford_Prefect Jul 2024 #62
Instead of bashing Biden. Butterflylady Jul 2024 #63
The media fakes it and some of our own people fuck us. Stinky The Clown Jul 2024 #64
K&R AKwannabe Jul 2024 #66
The wealthy are scared IbogaProject Jul 2024 #67
I am so Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #69
Y'all didn''t need no report to know that. twodogsbarking Jul 2024 #73
Yup. Just sayin'. dchill Jul 2024 #79
love the following line samsingh Jul 2024 #81
Russian Trolls at it again Abundance77 Jul 2024 #82
It was NOT President Biden's performance in the debate that is the problem but the over-reaction by some https://x.com/c LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #83
Not sure what the point is.... TheRealNorth Jul 2024 #84
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