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In reply to the discussion: i know i'm pissing into the wind, even here on du, but i refuse to concede that biden even lost the debate. [View all]JustAnotherGen
(38,055 posts)31. Slight correction
It's 10% in addition to ad valorem and potentially 301 Tariffs (China Tariffs outside of the Trade Community) -
So - you could have an Iron Casting which in 2017 was $100 @ 3.9%. With 301 Tariffs - now at 28.9%. With across the board - @ 10%. So now 38.9%.
Iron Castings are not mass consumer.
They are used by United States Manufacturers who hire Americans to work and build our economy.
Now - lets talk about how US Manufacturers won't be able to compete and we end up in an extremely dire financial situation.
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i know i'm pissing into the wind, even here on du, but i refuse to concede that biden even lost the debate. [View all]
unblock
Jul 2024
OP
"Debate performance was disastrous" -- Quentin Fulks, Deputy Campaign Manager
brooklynite
Jul 2024
#4
The media's performance and the idiotic reaction from a few key democrats is what was disastrous
unblock
Jul 2024
#22
When you're talking to your major donors who are now skittish, honesty is appreciated
brooklynite
Jul 2024
#25
"Disastrous" is not honesty. "Didn't bring his 'a' game" or "could have done better" is honesty.
unblock
Jul 2024
#28
"Didn't bring his 'a' game" or "could have done better" isn't honesty, it's understatement. (n/t)
thesquanderer
Jul 2024
#45
We couldn't have lost, look at the stats. We outgained them by 300 yards and won the turnover battle!
TheKentuckian
Jul 2024
#78
How a debate team or anyone working for Joe could NOT try and prevent him from all
Eliot Rosewater
Jul 2024
#51
It was a disaster. No one I know who watched the debate did NOT call it a disaster for Biden.
beaglelover
Jul 2024
#72
I think on substance, Biden won easily due to the mountain of lies from his opponent.
LonePirate
Jul 2024
#5
People judge debates by what they saw and heard, not by reading a transcript. n/t
thesquanderer
Jul 2024
#42
I honestly think anyone who intends to vote in Nov. knows right now how they're going to vote - ,..
marble falls
Jul 2024
#82
grading on integrity, truthfulness, having a plan to govern the country Pres Biden won the debate hands down. nt
ImNotGod
Jul 2024
#9
Because that's what the press has been telling them? Or did they see/hear it for themselves? n/t
thenelm1
Jul 2024
#36
Counterpoint: If you're debating an idiot, and you don't win, in a sense, you've lost.
thesquanderer
Jul 2024
#47
Nonstop spewage of lies and insults from Orange Boy. I'll go with the honest guy with low energy anyday
Evolve Dammit
Jul 2024
#55
If they take Joe off the ballot, this will be the first election ever that I will have not voted in
ArkansasDemocrat1
Jul 2024
#58
According to Gov Gavin Newsom and others, Joe won hands down on content even if he lost on optics.
ancianita
Jul 2024
#63
President Biden answered questions. traitortrump avoided answering any question...
Hermit-The-Prog
Jul 2024
#91