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In reply to the discussion: "I need feminism because..." [View all]dark forest
(110 posts)112. Ya know,
I don't think that it is necessarily that people think that the woman is to blame for getting raped in these cases. It is that the woman is the person that is going to have to live with the consequences of being raped.
Given due process, and all, the rapist may face only minimal, or no, consequences.
So, yes, perhaps young men should receive instruction in learning not to rape. Maybe it will do some good with most, or at least some of them. But not all.
I think women should also receive instruction in how to defend themselves, what resources are available if they can't, and what situations pose the greatest danger of them being raped, so that they can avoid them, if they so choose.
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Are you that daft as to misinterpret the meaning of this young woman's message? WHOOSH! n/t
demmiblue
Nov 2012
#7
I understand her point, but really, is there anyone who doesn't know that rape is wrong?
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#12
Do you think there are really a lot of men who don't know it's wrong to have sex with
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#16
so much in society and media tell our boys this is a "mans" job. one way or another, it is all
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#27
And to highlight this point, I've just heard about the football player
question everything
Dec 2012
#114
i will take this a step further. my experience with two boys, girls do a lot of hitting, pushing,
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#35
i think most people who pressure others into doing things know it's wrong. i think most
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#17
everyone will *claim* they're innocent. what they know in their gut is another question.
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#20
we have to be clear and teach both, our boys and girls. it is a societal conditioning issue.
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#28
isnt it? this is what tells us as a culture, society, we condition. we knew it. this shows. how many
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#37
are you serious? bull fuckin' shit. of course it is. it is the greatest tool a parent has.
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#57
your last sentence was right on. and that is why it is important that we say loudly, NO, there are
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#43
i believe the definition of sociopath is that they know intellectually but don't care.
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#84
i'll add that our culture is sociopathic, because it encourages people to profit by harming others.
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#88
This enlightened "we" refers to those of us who don't want to be raped, and who don't want anyone
Zorra
Nov 2012
#81
The fact that the students are 60% female influences their choice of message. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2012
#9
then what would be the reason when the number was much lower. it has ALWAYS been, how to prevent
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#29
I don't think rapists rape because they forgot, or that no one ever told them, that it is wrong.
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2012
#30
where you are being obtuse is society conditioning both genders about behaviors that allow rape,
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#38
and now we have an effectively fun movement spreading the word that 45-75% of rape claims are false.
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#44
oh oh oh, and the MRA dude that says feminist are taking all the fun out of dating....
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#59
i do not agree that the majority of men are pigs. that is the argument. i have only men and boys
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#99
then i guess you will have to just say, women are pigs. do you know, womens thoughts
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#100