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Sympthsical

(11,124 posts)
44. It's all about turn out
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 09:00 AM
Jul 2024

It's a calculation that Vance will turn out the discontenteds in these states.

Is it a good calculation? We'll find out.

People often forget or never knew that 2020 was a hell of a lot closer than it appeared on the surface. President Biden won the popular vote by 7 million. However, if Trump would have managed to shift around about 50,000 votes across Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona, it would have been a tie in the electoral college. The man wasn't making his illegal phone calls for nothin.

If you go with Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania, President Biden took them with a total of about 300,000 votes.

These are thin margins, and that's where the 2024 election is going to land. This is where it's going to be played out. If you keep everything exactly the same as 2020, but Trump can squeeze his base out just a little bit more, we can have a problem.

Like I said, I don't know if this is a good calculation, but I get why he's making it.

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he was the one I was afraid of lynintenn Jul 2024 #1
Yeah but he's not very likable. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #2
Trump sees himself as the charm guy. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #5
Trump better watch out. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #3
I am kind of wondering whether their egos will clash? BlueKota Jul 2024 #18
Yes people thought Trump would go for a weaker personalty for that reason. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #22
My thoughts exactly. Claustrum Jul 2024 #26
Exactly. Vance is ruthless and ambitious. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #29
That might be a way to sow dissension in Trump's camp misanthrope Jul 2024 #30
I agree, and it would be very easy to do it. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #32
Trump doesn't really wield much power anymore. His money is gone and he relies on others Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #35
Excellent point. Trump is very easy to manipulate with flattery and money. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #39
The too-dogmatic is what makes him good for a convention Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #4
Independent voters are done with slimy. onecaliberal Jul 2024 #7
Do you have any poll links for that statement? Polybius Jul 2024 #43
Who else could he have picked that was "better" ? OnDoutside Jul 2024 #6
Doug Burgam Dr. Shepper Jul 2024 #27
Interesting opinion (and it's why I asked), I'd have put him on the Mike Pence side of VPs though he's OnDoutside Jul 2024 #41
I ventured to their boards to see the reaction ecstatic Jul 2024 #8
Just nasty... she's incredibly accomplished. WarGamer Jul 2024 #11
Except that she clerked for Roberts, Kavanaugh and another 6th Circuit judge picked by trump chowder66 Jul 2024 #14
accomplished doesn't mean "nice" WarGamer Jul 2024 #16
Agreed but we've seen a few "accomplished" people on the Supreme Court and in Congress who don't seem chowder66 Jul 2024 #19
Kamala is also accomplished, but they call her a DEI "hire" Nixie Jul 2024 #23
EXACTLY WarGamer Jul 2024 #25
This is the reason why TFG was never going with a non-white non-male VP. Claustrum Jul 2024 #28
Exactly. There was no way that was going to happen ecstatic Jul 2024 #38
They're putting all the chips on PA, WI and MI... thinking Vance can help. WarGamer Jul 2024 #9
A Trump Mini-Me is not Big Tent. Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #15
he certainly won't bring ONE woman to the ballot box. WarGamer Jul 2024 #17
sadly, some women will vote eye candy Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #36
Wallace about to go under the bus. nt LexVegas Jul 2024 #10
it's pretty crowded under there now Skittles Jul 2024 #13
She is big time pushing Biden must go yorkster Jul 2024 #31
anyone briefly envisioning that POS as president would feel panic Skittles Jul 2024 #12
TFG liked the "hillbilly" notion of Vance to attract any straggler rubes. nt allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #20
Straggler Rubes is my new favorite band name. Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #21
It's a bad pick. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #24
He probably IS a good pick to the repuglikkkans..... lastlib Jul 2024 #33
"Strong" ? I'd have said, "Very dangerous to the country. " Hekate Jul 2024 #34
He's a Rust Belt pick Sympthsical Jul 2024 #37
Trump already has those voters, radius777 Jul 2024 #42
It's all about turn out Sympthsical Jul 2024 #44
Correct Cosmocat Jul 2024 #46
correct Cosmocat Jul 2024 #45
She's right to be: he's dangerous, rich, ruthless, and electable 0rganism Jul 2024 #40
Maybe she's having Sarah Palin flashbacks. nt GoCubsGo Jul 2024 #47
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