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Deminpenn

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33. Yet outside of Jeffries,

Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:51 PM

Jul 2024

I haven't heard of any AfAm leaders calling for Biden to step down.

If Joy Reid or Sharpton said that, I'd give it credibility because they are in touch with those voters. Maddow, a youngish white woman living the yuppie life in western Mass, isn't.

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did Rachel just bury Joe? [View all] msongs Jul 2024 OP

Enough with the stupid polls. LisaL Jul 2024 #1

You can say that but if we are even losing Rachel Maddow totodeinhere Jul 2024 #26

What exactly did Rachel even say? LisaL Jul 2024 #46

She said that the president is losing support among black women. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #53

Could the nonstop dithering and dissing the Biden / Harris ticket be the cause? It sure as hell makes sense. we can do it Jul 2024 #78

I am not sure what the causes are but totodeinhere Jul 2024 #82

To clarify further... Moosepoop Jul 2024 #90

Thank you. Context is everything. Why would he be Polly Hennessey Jul 2024 #102

Well, let's be honest here. mucholderthandirt Jul 2024 #137

Polls were accurate in 2022 SamuelTheThird Jul 2024 #45

No, they weren't. asm128 Jul 2024 #74

Behind a paywall SamuelTheThird Jul 2024 #88

For your viewing pleasure. DiamondShark Jul 2024 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author asm128 Jul 2024 #75

Oh really? With their prediction of a red wave that didn't happen? wnylib Jul 2024 #79

Could it be polling vs media bias krawhitham Jul 2024 #138

It's how people use polls that is stupid dwayneb Jul 2024 #101

Didn't see that video, but I'd like to. Renew Deal Jul 2024 #2

MSNBC is full time Biden bashing. hume Jul 2024 #3

4 months out orangecrush Jul 2024 #4

Yes, the Democrats of leadership are nullifying our Primary choice... FarPoint Jul 2024 #21

I stand bdamomma Jul 2024 #52

Democratic leadership has dissapointed me and all of us over the years... FarPoint Jul 2024 #94

Can't and don't! Why not turn it off?! The onlthing that will change the m$m narrative is for their ratings to tank PortTack Jul 2024 #8

Turn it off until real news comes on not her wishes FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #13

Ratings are probably already down. Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #36

I just turned on CNN and they had Gabby Giffords husband. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #30

No - MSNBC was not Biden Bashing Pachamama Jul 2024 #60

Yes. Joe and Mika support Joe and Lawrence yorkster Jul 2024 #92

As much as I respect her ALBliberal Jul 2024 #5

They are paying so much attention to the stupid polls, it's ridiculous. LisaL Jul 2024 #11

2016 polls were within the margin of error Trekologer Jul 2024 #29

She basically semi-retired gab13by13 Jul 2024 #20

It sure feels like it. rubbersole Jul 2024 #6

So they will allow the fascist regime to take over. Fuking nonsense. BootinUp Jul 2024 #7

Did Rachel say onandup Jul 2024 #9

in regards to the poll of black women and regaining their vote, yes nt msongs Jul 2024 #22

Holy sheet onandup Jul 2024 #25

What was the poll, who took it, and what were the particulars? shrike3 Jul 2024 #67

I found the poll. SharonClark Jul 2024 #108

It is a bit depressing and the fact that 21% of them are unlikely to vote Bev54 Jul 2024 #118

FFS she is on the ticket, they will still be voting for her. I sure would like to know what the questions were Bev54 Jul 2024 #81

Does it take a genius to see why that may be? (Cmon Rach) we can do it Jul 2024 #10

Polls are slanted toward the answer that the pollster wants Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #12

And easily manipulated to get the numbers that the pollster wants. LisaL Jul 2024 #15

No. Rachel is reporting facts as she has researched them and as she understands them.... Hekate Jul 2024 #14

Polls are not facts. LisaL Jul 2024 #17

Dr Maddow is one of the deepest researchers in the tv-media world that I know of Hekate Jul 2024 #38

Did she mention the name of the poll? This is out of left field. shrike3 Jul 2024 #68

they do internal polls all the time Celerity Jul 2024 #109

See reply 108 SharonClark Jul 2024 #111

Well, as much as a white person can Deminpenn Jul 2024 #42

Lesbian, too. Don't forget she's one of those white married Lesbians who went to an elite university Hekate Jul 2024 #62

You really think she can relate to the Deminpenn Jul 2024 #71

Do you really think that people cannot "relate to" groups unlike their own? That Dr Maddow, for instance..., Hekate Jul 2024 #103

We're going to need a bigger bus... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #54

Well-spotted Hekate Jul 2024 #65

I'd like to see this poll she quoted. Have seen absolutely none which says a 30 percent drop shrike3 Jul 2024 #64

See reply 108 SharonClark Jul 2024 #112

Poster 4 heard a completely different comment by Rachel, which makes this all quite confusing. shrike3 Jul 2024 #136

Coverage of the Republican National Convention, where they are plotting a fascist takeover, Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #16

Yep. Most important thing on earth, apparently. shrike3 Jul 2024 #24

Pres Biden still has strong support.... Lovie777 Jul 2024 #18

What time did she say that? At around the time you posted your OP? SunSeeker Jul 2024 #19

Could you post and clarify for us? Very strange statement. shrike3 Jul 2024 #27

sorry, did not have my stop watch running.... :-) msongs Jul 2024 #28

9:32 ET. n/t Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #40

Thanks. So she said a poll came out today showing Biden down 30% among black women. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #95

Yeah, she initially said 31 points then later said 30. Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #96

Were you able to find any such poll? It makes no sense... SunSeeker Jul 2024 #98

I didn't look. n/t Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #100

Well I did look and couldn't find anything that even remotely said that. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #106

Ok. Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #107

Turns out I was Googling polls, when what Rachel was referring to was a "survey." SunSeeker Jul 2024 #123

See reply 108 SharonClark Jul 2024 #110

Found it. Yes, very depressing. And seems wrong, compared to other polls.. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #119

See reply 108 SharonClark Jul 2024 #115

Why don't you just tell us dweller Jul 2024 #121

The link is not in Post 108 either, just the name of the publication (The Cut, of NY Magazine). SunSeeker Jul 2024 #122

Here's the difference between radical noodle Jul 2024 #134

That doesn't really answer the question. They both basically say it's asking people questions, usually online. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #139

That is just plain weird. Thirty percent drop in support from black women? Insane. shrike3 Jul 2024 #23

not just weird bigtree Jul 2024 #37

I saw this already, but thanks for reposting it. shrike3 Jul 2024 #39

So this poll had just 17 Black respondents vs. 638 white ones? NoveltySocks Jul 2024 #91

I'm seeing it in real life too Polybius Jul 2024 #105

I always wondered where you were getting your info from... DiamondShark Jul 2024 #130

On this issue, I see a huge difference between DU and the Democrats I talk to every day Polybius Jul 2024 #133

How does that even happen? Why wouldn't it be in every demographic? Melon Jul 2024 #70

Check out post #41, What I thought was a reasonable explanation. shrike3 Jul 2024 #76

Got it. Thank you. Melon Jul 2024 #87

really a warped sense of her influence bigtree Jul 2024 #31

They ARE down..... BigmanPigman Jul 2024 #61

My brain hurts. I am going to bed. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #32

Night bdamomma Jul 2024 #56

Thanks bdamomma. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #131

Yet outside of Jeffries, Deminpenn Jul 2024 #33

What's your source for Jeffries calling for Pres Biden to step down? Cha Jul 2024 #63

The OPs about the e letter he sent and the meeting Deminpenn Jul 2024 #77

Well here's Pres Biden's answer.. Cha Jul 2024 #86

Building a case on gossip and bad polls flamingdem Jul 2024 #34

So they do a poll dweller Jul 2024 #35

No, see reply 108 SharonClark Jul 2024 #114

No - she pointed out info that shows that dropping Kamala Harris from ticket would hurt Biden Pachamama Jul 2024 #41

Who is talking about dropping Kamala from the ticket? LisaL Jul 2024 #43

The discussion was around the topic of should there be a situation in which Harris was not put to top of ticket Pachamama Jul 2024 #47

That makes more sense. There HAS been slight chatter about dropping Harris. shrike3 Jul 2024 #69

I did, and Rachel said a poll out today had Biden down 30% among black women. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #97

Well, that's totally different from what the OP says JI7 Jul 2024 #55

Ops should have to require a video and also refer to what it is Pachamama Jul 2024 #58

The media wants a Trump victory. Emile Jul 2024 #44

If Harris were to become the nominee, Trump would poop his pants. CoopersDad Jul 2024 #48

Trump would be too terrified to debate Harris SamuelTheThird Jul 2024 #50

Oh really? Thanks for your input. shrike3 Jul 2024 #89

Ok, wrong phrasing SamuelTheThird Jul 2024 #93

Nah she buried MSNBC we can do it Jul 2024 #49

I would like to see that poll and I would like to know who they polled. What the breakdown is Bev54 Jul 2024 #51

See reply 108 SharonClark Jul 2024 #116

Turn M$M OFF!!!!!!! BigmanPigman Jul 2024 #57

I lost interest with Chris Hayes. hume Jul 2024 #66

He pushed the Tara Reade story way back when. shrike3 Jul 2024 #73

So 30% of about 8% is going to cause the election to be thrown. I am sure that tRump will really care about them. Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #59

Roland Martin discussed the problems with recent polls of African Americans standingtall Jul 2024 #72

Black women will vote ... x Lovie777 Jul 2024 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2024 #80

Who's paying for these polls? Trump? mzmolly Jul 2024 #84

No. NT Patton French Jul 2024 #85

She disrupted poorly. ucrdem Jul 2024 #99

By now they have all resigned themselves to trump Klarkashton Jul 2024 #104

I can't deal with anymore of these threads...trashing... you know I love you msongs but sick of this. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #113

'Go out and talk about Joe Biden!' DNC chair spits fire at MSNBC over polling anxiety LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #117

Rachel works to make profit for MSNBC share holders. Many of whom are Trump supporters. n/t LookingGlassOnion Jul 2024 #120

Have not ever listened to any of her podcasts, have you? Not followed her career, hm? Hekate Jul 2024 #124

No. I do not consume products or media that enrich Trump supporting shareholders. LookingGlassOnion Jul 2024 #125

ROFLMAO. OMGWTF Hekate Jul 2024 #126

Watching MSNBC makes Trump supporters richer and more powerful. n/t LookingGlassOnion Jul 2024 #132

If you don't watch her radical noodle Jul 2024 #135

I imagine that a lot of people have quit watching the MSM newscast and opinion shows. bob4460 Jul 2024 #127

Keep in mind that she along with all the others can moniss Jul 2024 #128