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GiqueCee

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97. Oh, I KNOW those words aren't yours!

Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:15 PM

Jul 2024

I was just saying that the words of the top Dems are almost certainly influenced, if not exactly dictated, by those who hold the purse strings in this perverse and corrupted electoral system that was designed expressly for their benefit. In NO way was I casting aspersions on your reasoning.
I have just been so angry tonight that my usual attention to clarity may have been somewhat lacking. My apologies.
But damn, Celerity! You do some serious research! Gotta love it!
Have a good night.

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I support Biden and want him as our candidate. But.. [View all] edhopper Jul 2024 OP

We have to face reality, something is going on. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #1

Oh, good grief wryter2000 Jul 2024 #8

Unless they start telling us what is going on, this convention will make 1968 look Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #17

What is going on is simple krawhitham Jul 2024 #24

What is their motive? Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #27

To get rid of Joe, but they are too stupid to see that leads to a crushing lose krawhitham Jul 2024 #45

Yes but why do they want to get rid of Joe? Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #46

You say "They never liked Joe".. whathehell Jul 2024 #56

What did you hear on MSNBC that surprised you? Amaryllis Jul 2024 #91

Someone said that certain people in the Obama whathehell Jul 2024 #96

Wouldn't it be a lot easier in that case to just let him lose? Blaukraut Jul 2024 #70

There will be no '28 if we lose this. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2024 #81

They don't want this plan for some reason. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #85

Ever meet a billionaire or multi-millionaire? FHRRK Jul 2024 #57

They say it over, and people can choose to believe them or not. Celerity Jul 2024 #73

And their words are based on what? GiqueCee Jul 2024 #93

I was speaking about elected Congressional Dems, but I wager the same could be said for the big money Democratic Celerity Jul 2024 #95

Oh, I KNOW those words aren't yours! GiqueCee Jul 2024 #97

Exactly who is "they"? nancy1942 Jul 2024 #83

Exactly. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #88

Oh, c'mon... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #99

I think it's probably some big money donors Diraven Jul 2024 #87

I guess it's one of those self-fulfilling prophecies Walleye Jul 2024 #52

There is too much at stake right now. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #60

I've never seen anything like it Walleye Jul 2024 #63

I agree. It is astounding. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #69

Yes, but in 1968 18-year-olds didn't have the vote and there really was a reason for the demonstrations. Bloody war. Walleye Jul 2024 #80

Yes but we at war now too. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #82

we must all work together musicblind Jul 2024 #100

Piss poor Rebl2 Jul 2024 #78

100% certain the timing is deliberate. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #89

Oh, it's going to be fun, isn't it? shrike3 Jul 2024 #74

Yes could be a blood bath. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #75

Yep. But we're only the base, right? shrike3 Jul 2024 #76

Yes. We do not appear to be part of the current algorithm. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #77

Switching candidates at all would be the biggest political mistake in history. krawhitham Jul 2024 #21

Hear hear. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #51

Why does all this remind of 2016? Think. Again. Jul 2024 #2

Because it has Putin and Netanyahu's fingerprints all over it. BComplex Jul 2024 #29

Netanyahu's? AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #101

It would be political SUICIDE. We lose the INCUMBENCY and PARTY UNITY keys. We LOSE. It's SUICIDE! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #3

Exactly wryter2000 Jul 2024 #5

I'm not saying this is the correct answer, Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #10

Does she get the hundred million or more the campaign has raised? wryter2000 Jul 2024 #16

Where there's a will there's a way. Pisces Jul 2024 #32

Utter nonsense wryter2000 Jul 2024 #39

RSO rso Jul 2024 #47

Not now wryter2000 Jul 2024 #71

Every other democratic country on Earth? meadowlander Jul 2024 #53

100% krawhitham Jul 2024 #28

Wonderful way to reward a president who got so much done. shrike3 Jul 2024 #4

If they go through with this, and should we ever have another election as a result of a trump win, BComplex Jul 2024 #36

If Trump wins, they will be out of power forever. shrike3 Jul 2024 #40

That's what I know. BComplex Jul 2024 #67

It's not fair, I agree democrattotheend Jul 2024 #66

They don't know what he's done. shrike3 Jul 2024 #68

I would hope so FL_Jerry Jul 2024 #6

I wish we could openly discuss this here Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #7

How can we discuss why top ranking Democratic officials want Joe to step down gab13by13 Jul 2024 #11

They haven't told us yet, but I don't assume that they won't. Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #25

I don't think they have made it against the rules to discuss it here democrattotheend Jul 2024 #12

If juries are randomly chosen, the majority think it's betrayal. Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #44

Juries aren't randomly chosen. After a certain number of pulled posts, you can't participate on juries anymore. meadowlander Jul 2024 #50

They have. EarlG posted a week or two back and juries have been pulling any post that advocates for it. meadowlander Jul 2024 #48

I agree Yorkie Mom. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #20

I'd love to be able to have that discussion and pick your brain about what you think Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #31

I agree 100%. It's crazy we can't discuss this when something is definitely going on. Pisces Jul 2024 #34

Same here, would love to hear your ideas. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #42

"Top Dems" Are For Biden". So there's That. And "Pres Biden is NOT Dropping OUT". Cha Jul 2024 #37

I love Biden, I think he's the best choice, but I want our best person Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #103

My only thought gab13by13 Jul 2024 #9

This is hideous. Schiff is close to Pelosi flamingdem Jul 2024 #13

I trust Pelosi. Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #35

I know .. flamingdem Jul 2024 #41

Yes gab those are on the list of possible explanations. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #23

Candidatetobenamedlater/Harris doesn't look good on a sign lame54 Jul 2024 #14

Boy does that ever piss me off! Kamala Harris would be able to kick anyone's hiney! BComplex Jul 2024 #62

He will not be replaced. And if he was, we would lose. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #15

I wish they would realize that wryter2000 Jul 2024 #18

I don't know.... I would bet they know Trump has no chance of winning which is why they are taking these risks... Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #64

If we switch we get CRUSHED in a landslide krawhitham Jul 2024 #19

Na. If they force Biden out, the party is telling me my vote doesn't matter. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #22

Exactly SomedayKindaLove Jul 2024 #90

President Biden Is Our Canidate and Many of Us Are Moving FORWARD NOW. Cha Jul 2024 #26

This would be far worse than after 2016. yorkster Jul 2024 #30

Why are you saying that? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #33

My issue is why wasn't this addressed last fall? Buckeyeblue Jul 2024 #38

Sometimes things change on the ground very quickly. And Deterioration happens faster than people realize Pisces Jul 2024 #43

Last fall everyone was told get behind Biden no matter what so we don't weaken him against Trump. meadowlander Jul 2024 #61

That leads me to believe even more that this is a big donor-driven pressure campaign. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #79

I'll vote for a cheeseburger over Trump or any other Republican. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #49

I think the majority of Americans feel the same way.... Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #65

Whatever happens, happens. But we *MUST* stop Trump and Project 2025 *AT ALL COSTS*. Initech Jul 2024 #54

Right there with you . . . . . BUT . . . . Stinky The Clown Jul 2024 #55

"Party unity but only if my guy tops the ticket" isn't party unity. meadowlander Jul 2024 #58

Wiseowljedi wiseowljedi Jul 2024 #59

We are showing the world Sunsky Jul 2024 #72

if what happens? bigtree Jul 2024 #84

Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #86

I am terrified another 1968 convention is going to happen if he steps down LostOne4Ever Jul 2024 #92

Good luck with that idea - waterwatcher123 Jul 2024 #94

We need independents and green voters to win this and we won't get that if Biden is replaced. lees1975 Jul 2024 #98

I'm all in on the democratic ticket come november. Full stop. fishwax Jul 2024 #102