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9. You're on to something. I don't buy the bullied loner story either.

Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:24 PM

Jul 2024

IMO some entity helped the kid get to that high perch with a direct line of sight to the podium. And reports are that the Secret Service knew of him an hour before the shooting as acting suspiciously, and 20 minutes before he started shooting, that he had climbed on the roof of that building.

WTF?

And they still let trump get on the podium before getting the gunman out of there.

Very suspicious. They've got a lot of questions to answer for. And being understaffed is no excuse. Ya just put your protectee in harms way.

I'm a Dem and no fan of trump, but it sure seems somebody wanted trump gone.

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So Crooks Has No Ideology [View all] gab13by13 Jul 2024 OP

Why is he still in charge? Chris Wray. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #1

His boss is merrick garland getagrip_already Jul 2024 #15

Aren't the young more disconnected from politics? Kaleva Jul 2024 #2

Possibly, but for a 20 year old to have almost NO social media presence is... yagotme Jul 2024 #3

Some young people do all of their web socializing on game platforms. Bare profile, lots of chatting. n/t John1956PA Jul 2024 #7

And, may be discovered later. nt yagotme Jul 2024 #12

Yes. That is what I have been saying. John1956PA Jul 2024 #13

Also of significance is that the chatting on game platforms is done almost exclusively through voice chat. John1956PA Jul 2024 #24

Now, to find out if he was a gamer, yagotme Jul 2024 #60

I have two teens sarisataka Jul 2024 #11

TikTok seems to be the go-to for now. nt yagotme Jul 2024 #14

From what I've read, he wasn't normal. Kaleva Jul 2024 #16

Yes, described as a "loner". yagotme Jul 2024 #19

That support might have been via voice chatting on game programs. John1956PA Jul 2024 #27

That turned out to be fake. Someone spamming like they created that fake video of him after he died. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #30

Thank you. I will delete my comment. n/t John1956PA Jul 2024 #31

Yes Kaleva Jul 2024 #36

I have a 20 year old stepson, same age as the shooter. yardwork Jul 2024 #20

My 34 yo daughter: "Mom are your still gonna campaign for him after that debate? You need to give it up" LeftInTX Jul 2024 #33

And I think it's been historically that way for a long time Kaleva Jul 2024 #46

Classmates have said he was political - very interested in history and politics... polichick Jul 2024 #4

I am guessing that the conservative point of view he displayed in school was acquired from his father. n/t John1956PA Jul 2024 #6

The last classmate to be interviewed said Crooks hated all politicians womanofthehills Jul 2024 #43

I think that Crooks was searching for the time of day the rally was to be held. n/t John1956PA Jul 2024 #5

Could have just been a double hater, maxsolomon Jul 2024 #8

I don't think so - sounds like he thought he could get away with it womanofthehills Jul 2024 #44

He did not set realistic goals, then. maxsolomon Jul 2024 #57

You're on to something. I don't buy the bullied loner story either. brush Jul 2024 #9

You suspect former classmates of his to be liars? Kaleva Jul 2024 #47

Former classmates? Did they help him get in place to shoot trump? brush Jul 2024 #53

It was an open venue. He walked in Kaleva Jul 2024 #55

It's not the trump campaign, it's the Secret Service and LEOs.... brush Jul 2024 #58

Who picked the venue? Kaleva Jul 2024 #59

It's rural, deep red PA. brush Jul 2024 #65

Which means there's lots of AR-15s Kaleva Jul 2024 #66

Yep, you've got me there. brush Jul 2024 #67

And a fair number of those gun owners are nuts Kaleva Jul 2024 #68

Good guess. Ideal trump country one would think. brush Jul 2024 #69

I know plenty of people who are apolitical. blue neen Jul 2024 #10

But a classmate said he wasn't apolitical - womanofthehills Jul 2024 #45

Sounds like Lee Harvey Oswald in that regard** misanthrope Jul 2024 #62

I agree Kaleva Jul 2024 #48

Yet he had trump and maga lawn signs..... getagrip_already Jul 2024 #17

We don't know if he put up those signs, or agreed with them. yardwork Jul 2024 #22

His neighbors said he did...... getagrip_already Jul 2024 #23

I thought he lived with his mom? I hadn't heard that he lived alone. yardwork Jul 2024 #26

Not sure..... getagrip_already Jul 2024 #34

No they didn't. Someone with the local GOP (Precinct Chair) who lives in the neighborhood said they didn't. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #35

Ok, trust the republican.... getagrip_already Jul 2024 #41

He didn't vote in the GOP primary this year. Was the person who saw the Trump signs a Democratic Precinct Chair? LeftInTX Jul 2024 #42

How do you know those signs were his? Kaleva Jul 2024 #49

Sounds like he was mentally ill and consumed with anger and hatred. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #18

What little information we have suggests that, I agree. yardwork Jul 2024 #21

I saw articles that talked about that but gab13by13 Jul 2024 #29

His behavior we know about tells us he is mentally ill. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #37

+1 Kaleva Jul 2024 #50

PS Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #40

Agree with this. orange jar Jul 2024 #32

Yes I agree. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #38

He wouldn't have gotten as far trying for Biden misanthrope Jul 2024 #63

I do not understand why no one from law enforcement notified the Secret Service gab13by13 Jul 2024 #25

He is a frustrated school shooter lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #28

You underestimate the number of young people with extreme antipathy towards both parties Sympthsical Jul 2024 #39

I smelled a rat from jump. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #51

Ammosexual incel like so many killers nowadays. Silent Type Jul 2024 #52

Oliver Stone would probably say Crooks was the perfect patsy. sop Jul 2024 #54

tRump banned bump stocks. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #56

Which are now legal again. yagotme Jul 2024 #61

of course he had one. Incel gun enthusiast. nt ecstatic Jul 2024 #64