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crimycarny

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Mon Jul 22, 2024, 01:35 PM

Jul 2024

Agree completely! Just because people are hurt and angry over how Biden was treated (as I am) doesn't mean we're being "Debby Downers"--it's barely been 24 hours!

Joe Biden's WH reached out to me after the death of my son to suicide. I wrote to the WH pouring my heart out. That is the Joe Biden I'm thinking of right now. This had to have broken his heart.

I'm relieved for President Biden that he will no longer have to fight with one hand tied behind his back and his own party is some of those throwing those punches.

I can be upset at seeing a kind, decent, honorable human being who has already suffered so much loss in his life having to suffer another heartbreak. President Biden will pick himself up, but I know that he must be suffering right now.

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It was not some grand plan, it was a massive failure. [View all] jg10003 Jul 2024 OP

so true! nt macwriter Jul 2024 #1

Yet big donors weren't coming forth with campaign checks. Omnipresent Jul 2024 #105

that is the heart of the problem edisdead Jul 2024 #118

true rampartc Jul 2024 #131

Yep Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #161

I guess you know more than Biden about this. Klarkashton Jul 2024 #2

I think it is/was EXTREMELY clear, that Biden wanted to continue stopdiggin Jul 2024 #20

The most powerful person in the world was "brow-beaten" brooklynite Jul 2024 #57

I think Joe Biden made this decision himself stopdiggin Jul 2024 #67

I think Pres Biden Bowed Out For Unity and Democracy.. There were So Many Excellent Cha Jul 2024 #90

While Trump crows about his "taking a bullet" for the country... CincyDem Jul 2024 #92

Yeah, We had some pretty Wonderful Stay Donors.. Cha Jul 2024 #93

and I would not disagree with any of that stopdiggin Jul 2024 #121

But they didn't, and we are in a different situation now. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #3

Joe Manchin wants to run as a Democrat BWdem4life Jul 2024 #7

If the alternative was Trump, I would. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #12

I guess it's a good thing repigs have a bad enough candidate that we would have to settle for the likes of Manchin. BWdem4life Jul 2024 #16

As I have said before, I'd vote for any Democrat who could fog up a mirror Ocelot II Jul 2024 #18

Of course, Blue No Matter Who... emulatorloo Jul 2024 #44

Manchin doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Dem nomination. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #43

this is true but msm and maddow are pushing the story so it must happen ImNotGod Jul 2024 #61

😃 Happily I have no problem tuning them out! emulatorloo Jul 2024 #64

Right. We have enough real problems, without worrying about hypothetical problems. griffi94 Jul 2024 #152

Hell no chicoescuela Jul 2024 #13

He's not a Democrat Pisces Jul 2024 #14

Reportedly, he was considering re-registering as a Democrat. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #17

Turn coats need not apply Pisces Jul 2024 #167

back up ... you're actually articulating that you would NOT vote stopdiggin Jul 2024 #27

Context BWdem4life Jul 2024 #32

not my kind of Democrat stopdiggin Jul 2024 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2024 #48

I want to be Emperor of the Planet Zongo relayerbob Jul 2024 #54

My feelings exactly.............n/t chillfactor Jul 2024 #4

I'm glad somebody is saying it Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #5

That's how I've felt for the last few weeks. nt LAS14 Jul 2024 #166

No. People saw the debate. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #6

THANK YOU Skittles Jul 2024 #15

But you are telling us we have to be enthused, even if we are not currently, because of the way the President displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #22

My enthusiasm is entirely aimed at defeating Trump. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #45

My enthusiasm was aimed at a second Biden/Harris administration displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #72

Dump didn't exactly shine during the debate. StarryNite Jul 2024 #25

newsflash Skittles Jul 2024 #26

Skittles, you are the best! Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #49

So should Hillary Clinton. And she lost to him. lees1975 Jul 2024 #65

I DID MOVE ON Skittles Jul 2024 #68

Whoa there Tweedy Jul 2024 #91

Mahalo! Rec. Cha Jul 2024 #95

"Winning" the debate doesn't guarantee election victory Kaleva Jul 2024 #98

Nah Tweedy Jul 2024 #110

The media piled on because the owners ordered them to do so Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #112

I wouldn't put Obama's and Reagan's performance in the same category Kaleva Jul 2024 #120

There are more to add Tweedy Jul 2024 #122

As poorly as Obama or Reagan or even Gore in that one debate Jk23 Jul 2024 #126

Ad hominem is never supposed to win any argument Tweedy Jul 2024 #160

This was about the fact that the overwhelming majority of everyday Dems wanted Biden to step aside. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #37

I refuse to believe that Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #123

Is that why 14 million dems voted for him? GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #128

The Democratic base was just not energized enough to defeat Trump. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #47

Maybe not. Desert grandma Jul 2024 #76

No, there is a spark and an energy and a fire now that didn't exist 24 hours ago. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #80

Agree 100% Rstrstx Jul 2024 #97

I totally disagree! GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #130

Well, of course it is! Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #150

The expectations were set very high for Joe Zambero Jul 2024 #62

Yes. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #63

So Pres Biden had one Bad Debate and he Rallied the Next Day.. Cha Jul 2024 #86

You explained it perfectly. Also... Oopsie Daisy Jul 2024 #99

I absolutely hate the way our president was treated by some people here, but apparently that's ok. we can do it Jul 2024 #107

Amen! Oopsie Daisy Jul 2024 #108

Just how much is President Biden supposed to give anyway?? AkFemDem Jul 2024 #103

Agree... if things were coming together where it appeared he could win, the Irish in him would have kept PortTack Jul 2024 #141

It would sit better with me if Democratic leaders hadn't spent the past 3 weeks Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #158

This. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #96

Everyone was angry with Jon Stewart on his comeback show Jk23 Jul 2024 #125

Thank God for the wisdom of Jon Stewart displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #159

yeah OK Skittles Jul 2024 #165

I hope you are never judged in your professional life based on one negative thing you did. onecaliberal Jul 2024 #129

To be fair... Yorkist Jul 2024 #8

I'm ecstatic. Sorry you are so upset. nt LexVegas Jul 2024 #9

It's concerning that GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #133

how long will disillusionment posts be allowed Skittles Jul 2024 #10

This BlueInPhilly Jul 2024 #24

Stop it. It hasn't even been a full day since the backstabbers got their way and forced out Biden. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #31

DOES NOT MATTER Skittles Jul 2024 #33

Your tone isn't helpful. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #39

Priority One now is defeating Trump. We can do post game analysis after we kick Trump's ass to the curb. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #55

Yeah and telling people their frustration DOES NOT MATTER isn't helping do that. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #56

I'm very frustrated too. But I have more important stuff to do right now - DEFEATING TRUMP emulatorloo Jul 2024 #60

What exactly are you doing at this moment to defeat Trump? Self Esteem Jul 2024 #77

Do what you need to do at your own pace. And a slightly belated welcome to DU! emulatorloo Jul 2024 #89

+100 crimycarny Jul 2024 #142

*I* do not expect to be coddled Skittles Jul 2024 #69

And you will need as many allies as possible. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #74

once again, we are FIGHTING FASCISM Skittles Jul 2024 #75

And your attitude isn't helping. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #78

Exactly..and thank you for voicing the truth of things. PortTack Jul 2024 #144

Exactly.. Not "helpful" at all. Just the Opposite. Cha Jul 2024 #88

Are you for real? displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #79

Why are you overlooking the fact that President Biden ultimately made this decision because he felt he couldn't win? PortTack Jul 2024 #145

Calling it "backstabbers" is not fair. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #40

I agree. It's much worse than that but I don't want to get banned. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #41

Sorry but it's fair because these GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #135

Maybe you can consider newdayneeded Jul 2024 #111

Cut off legitimate expressions of grief and disgust with the way things were done just like the votes of the people lees1975 Jul 2024 #53

yeah WE GET IT Skittles Jul 2024 #87

What do you get? displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #100

I agree, we are fighting the nightmare of fascism Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #113

the Supreme Court decided that big money will run elections Skittles Jul 2024 #163

Don't you just love anyone telling you what to do Cha Jul 2024 #94

... Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #114

Aww Cha Jul 2024 #157

I'm asking the same thing. President Biden felt he couldn't win...why are so many fighting that? Sad indeed, PortTack Jul 2024 #143

This! lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #153

... BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #11

Typing fast to beat the post removal. usonian Jul 2024 #19

I get it. I understand angrychair Jul 2024 #21

They should remember what happened with Trump in 2016 BluenFLA Jul 2024 #23

Comey talked nonsense about Hillary's emails Skittles Jul 2024 #29

Sorry, but she ran a terrible campaign Deminpenn Jul 2024 #81

if she ran a bad campaign Skittles Jul 2024 #85

She ran a bad campaign in Pennsylvania Deminpenn Jul 2024 #101

The popular vote doesn't matter Jk23 Jul 2024 #138

Trump is a cheater and a liar Jk23 Jul 2024 #137

I've thought about this. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #35

It's about the voters planj07 Jul 2024 #28

Exactly. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #52

You're not wrong especially about young voters Jk23 Jul 2024 #139

I thought your lead in was about trump and 2025. I think pwb Jul 2024 #30

and that's another thing that needs to stop Skittles Jul 2024 #71

It was absolutely a massive failure on our party's part... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #34

They tried that and no amount of gaslighting people that they didn't see what they saw at the debates meadowlander Jul 2024 #36

Remember hoping to watch Biden smoke TSF in debate, or at least hold his own. He tried, he was right, trump lied, but Silent Type Jul 2024 #42

He also had a cold, or possibly the beginnings of Covid Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #115

Biden is a smart, tremendous leader and he is behind Harris for President. nt still-prayin4rain Jul 2024 #46

And this is what really matters! PortTack Jul 2024 #149

Unfortunately true. nt BootinUp Jul 2024 #50

It is what it is. Time to help VP Harris defeat Trump. Number one priority right now. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #51

Yeah. Leave the grand plan stuff to Alex Jones, et al. RockRaven Jul 2024 #58

He was indeed forced out, and we will remember relayerbob Jul 2024 #59

Egged on by certain individuals who have "pull" with donors. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #66

Doesn't matter now. Joe's not running. spanone Jul 2024 #70

There were several key extenuating circumstances here Metaphorical Jul 2024 #73

Too many Congressional dems a disaster just like in 2000 by GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #82

I was a vigorous supoorter, however now... IbogaProject Jul 2024 #83

Silk purse/sow's ear. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #84

As far as "failures" go, this could have turned out much worse ColinC Jul 2024 #102

I get what you are saying. Doodley Jul 2024 #106

I guess we will know how much worse (or hopefully better) it gets come November displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #162

Beating fascism is more important than any one person. We are in a stronger position now. We have to move forward. Doodley Jul 2024 #104

It had gone well behind stuttering and 'senior' moments JCMach1 Jul 2024 #109

Okay, so the next time you're exhausted and have a bad cold Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #124

My point is the cause really wasn't important here... JCMach1 Jul 2024 #151

I'm sorry, but I must have missed that diagnosis Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #154

Not a doctor, but what has been described since he stepped down JCMach1 Jul 2024 #155

Thge massive failure Zeitghost Jul 2024 #116

Yep. edisdead Jul 2024 #117

It was his decision...he as much as said so when he said for the good of the country and his party PortTack Jul 2024 #148

The number one motivator? Defeating Trump. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #156

Time for unity. Time to stop publicly crying that Biden is not our candidate. Goodheart Jul 2024 #119

It was neither planned nor a failure Sympthsical Jul 2024 #136

when i personally find myself in the shoulda, coulda, woulda in anything about myself, about life, what somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #127

To be honest claudette Jul 2024 #132

Same....As much as I didn't want to see it...very sad PortTack Jul 2024 #146

I know claudette Jul 2024 #147

Whatever. tavernier Jul 2024 #134

Unless you're a DC insider, I don't think you really know, do you? Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #140

The mass public pants-shitting over a bad debate was terrible form. D23MIURG23 Jul 2024 #164