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Celerity

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59. 16 years (Gen X and Millennials) in duration. I also, in all my other posters on this thread, left out the 3rd cusper
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 02:28 PM
Jul 2024

micro gen, the one for the Gen X/Millennial boundary.

Roughly 1977 to 1980 (with some extending it to 1982)

They are called Xennials (and also Carter Babies, Generation Catalano, or the Oregon Trail Gen).

Generation Catalano

We’re not Gen X. We’re not Millennials.

OCT 24, 2011

https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/10/generation-catalano-the-generation-stuck-between-gen-x-and-the-millennials.html

Last week in New York magazine, 27-year-old Noreen Malone (a former Slate staffer) wrote that her generation, the Millennials—battered by the economy and yet still somehow convinced that they’ll “do better” than their parents—were “hoping for the chance to put on a tie and report to their cubes.” In response, Gizmodo writer Mat Honan, who turns 39 this week, posted a screed on his blog that read in part: “Generation X is tired of your sense of entitlement. Generation X also graduated during a recession. It had even shittier jobs … Generation X is used to being fucked over.” I’m older than Noreen but younger than Mat, and neither characterization rang exactly true to me (most demographers place me and my peers at the tail end of Generation X). I was born during Jimmy Carter’s presidency, a one-term administration remembered mostly for the Iran hostage crisis, the New York City blackout, and stagflation. The Carter babies—anyone born between his inauguration in January 1977 and Reagan’s in January 1981—are now 30 to 34, and, like Carter himself, the weirdly brilliant yet deeply weird born-again Christian peanut farmer, this micro-generation is hard to pin down. We identify with some of Gen X’s cynicism and suspicion of authority—watching Pee-Wee Herman proclaim, “I’m a loner, Dottie. A rebel,” will do that to a kid—but we were too young to claim Singles and Reality Bites and Slacker as our own (though that didn’t stop me from buying the soundtracks). And, while the proud alienation of the Gen X worldview doesn’t totally sit right, we certainly don’t yearn for the Organization Man-like conformity that the Millennials seem to crave.

So, half in jest, I posted on Twitter: “I’m not Gen X and I’m not a Millennial either; I’m some low-birthrate in-between thing. WHO WILL SPEAK FOR ME.” To my surprise, replies flooded in: “I was thinking the same thing today. I vote Generation Jem.” “Generation I Watched Saved By The Bell during its first run.” “I’m born 77, I claim the Xers, just because it’s better than the alternative.” But what seemed to be the best moniker for our micro-generation was a Teen Vogue editor’s suggestion: “Generation Catalano.” Jared Leto’s Jordan Catalano was a main character in the 1994-95 ABC series My So-Called Life, a show that starred Claire Danes as Angela Chase, a high school sophomore struggling with the thing that teenagers will struggle with as long as there are high schools: who she is. “People are always saying you should be yourself, like yourself is this definite thing, like a toaster. Like you know what it is even,’” she says in a voice-over in a midseason episode. So even though the themes of the show are in many ways timeless, today, My So-Called Life also seems like a time capsule, and not just because of the Scrunchies. There’s no texting; Jordan leaves a note for Angela in her locker. There’s also no Facebook or instant-messaging or cyberbullying (just regular old bullying). It was a show that most accurately portrayed my high school experience, minus the dating of Jared Leto, in part because it aired while I was actually in high school.

Claire Danes’ Angela—and Heathers’ Veronica Sawyer and Freaks and Geeks’ Lindsay Weir—also fall into a trope of television and film that’s an especially apt representation of Generation Catalano (or at least those of us who were white and from the suburbs): the girl who doesn’t know where exactly she fits in, because she’s smart (full disclosure: the struggle Lindsay has over whether to stay on the Mathletes hit a little too close to home), wants to be popular, and has to leave her old, dorky friends behind. The show or movie’s dramatic tension is then largely about her identity crisis as she ping-pongs among different cliques and wrestles with the seemingly monumental decision of whether to stay in on a Friday night and do her calculus homework or go to a keg party in the woods. Yet My So-Called Life and Freaks and Geeks each only made it through one season before being canceled; they failed to resonate with a broader audience. In contrast, the relatively bland main characters on much more successful, Millennial-targeted shows of the late 1990s and early 2000s, like Dawson’s Creek, One Tree Hill, and The O.C., presaged the current crop of high school-centric series like Glee, Pretty Little Liars, and Gossip Girl, whose lead characters—much like Millennials themselves—are convinced that it’s not just possible, but expected to be pretty, popular, and go to Brown. (My Millennial sister—who was born in 1984, and is now a lawyer—watched Legally Blonde and found much to admire in Elle Woods’ equal devotion to her wardrobe and her legal career.) Meanwhile, the post-Millennials seem solely obsessed with fame; hugely popular shows like Hannah Montana and iCarly reinforce the idea that you can be a “regular” kid who’s also world-famous.

This urge to define generations is also about a yearning for a collective memory in an increasingly atomized world, at least where my generation is concerned. Indeed, where the Millennials tend to define themselves in terms of the way they live now, people in my cohort find fellowship more in what happened in the past, clinging to cultural totems as though our shared experiences will somehow lead us to better figure out who we are. The Internet is littered with quick-hit nostalgia websites like I’m Remembering, which posts pictures of toys and TV characters and old photos from the ‘80s and ‘90s. Certainly, discovering that someone else also had a Cabbage Patch Kid does immediately create a sense of shared history, no matter how superficial. This aligns us more with Gen X, which has also always bonded through nostalgia. Millennials, on the other hand, seem to be always looking forward, imbued with a sense of optimism and hope that to us reads as naive. In her story, Malone writes that “every generation finds, eventually, a mode of expression that suits it,” but perhaps every generation is also granted, eventually, a name that it deserves. Though Douglas Coupland didn’t invent the term “Generation X” (that credit goes to the photographer Robert Capa, who used it to describe the generation of kids growing up after World War II), his 1991 book of the same name was what made it apply to this age group. Millennials, on the other hand, have Ad Age to thank for helping define their generation; the advertising trade publication first used the term “Generation Y” in 1993 to characterize the post-Gen X cohort. Later, William Strauss and Neil Howe’s 2000 book Millennials Rising would become instrumental in defining this group; in his review of the book for the New York Times, David Brooks noted that “kids have a much more positive attitude toward parents and adult authority figures than earlier cohorts did.”

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I love that JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #1
She's actually a baby boomer. She was born in 1964. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #28
I hold hope. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #30
It's weird to lump us in with those born in 1946 eShirl Jul 2024 #36
Probably but this was done decades ago and jimfields33 Jul 2024 #38
On the other hand, these are all human constructed categories... OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #44
I was born in '64 and feel the same misanthrope Jul 2024 #58
Biden's from the Silent generation. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #2
You are right. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #8
I Count Obama and Harris As Generation Jones Deep State Witch Jul 2024 #3
Boomers was a long range. There are substantial differences between the youngest & oldest among them. hlthe2b Jul 2024 #9
What is Generation Jones? Nt OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #10
The Cusp of the Baby Boomers - Gen X Deep State Witch Jul 2024 #12
Thx! OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #24
There is no such thing. The Baby Boom was from 1946-1964. The demographics are based solely on birthrates. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #49
I also consider myself Gen. Jones (1963) Island Blue Jul 2024 #18
Agreed...too old to be Gen X Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #23
Correct - I'm with you FHRRK Jul 2024 #39
It doesn't matter what you remember. That is NOT what characterizes the Baby Boom generation. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #42
Lol, you a Boomer? FHRRK Jul 2024 #55
There is no such thing as "generation Jones." None. You are a Baby Boomer whether you like it or not. n/t valleyrogue Jul 2024 #41
I think it depends on where you grew up... WarGamer Jul 2024 #47
She's definitely on the cusp. I think she gives Gen X energy rather than Boomer. Music Man Jul 2024 #4
Fixed the error. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #13
No worries! Music Man Jul 2024 #43
So true! OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #46
My wife was shocked when she found out Harris was as old as she is AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #27
She is attractive, stylish and keeps up with pop culture. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #34
there is a little math errors here lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #5
Yes and fixed. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #14
Obama is more genX than Boomer. nt Maru Kitteh Jul 2024 #6
He's in the sub gen called Generation Jones (born 1954/55 to 1964/65 or even 1966, although some start it at 1957/58) Celerity Jul 2024 #15
Actually disagree. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #16
That's the thing about cuspers (I 'm a 1996 born cusper, almost a Gen Zer but born in the last 3 months of Millennials) Celerity Jul 2024 #53
She is a Boomer, not Gen X (1964 is the last birth year for Boomers) and Biden was a Silent Gen (1928-1945 born) POTUS Celerity Jul 2024 #7
There may be consensus... but I never considered myself as being in the middle of the Boomers lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #11
see my Generation Jones post, it sounds like you are in that Celerity Jul 2024 #17
yes, that's me... never heard that name before. lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #20
Agree and disagree. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #29
yes, but some things just don't fit lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #54
Consensus exists now. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #21
see my Generation Jones post Celerity Jul 2024 #25
Yep, very helpful. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #40
16 years (Gen X and Millennials) in duration. I also, in all my other posters on this thread, left out the 3rd cusper Celerity Jul 2024 #59
Generation Jones Ex Lurker Jul 2024 #19
Thanks. OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #22
There is no such thing as "generation Jones." It is a complete fabrication. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #37
Twenty-five years ago I was NOT a boomer! FHRRK Jul 2024 #48
Then define it culturally rather than by birth rate. tinrobot Jul 2024 #57
Thank you. Proud Gen Joneser here tinrobot Jul 2024 #45
Lol, and for the youngsters FHRRK Jul 2024 #50
Totally Gen X! Gaytano70 Jul 2024 #26
Wrong on both counts. They are in fact Baby Boomers as defined by the US Census, valleyrogue Jul 2024 #35
Hence the "I think" Gaytano70 Jul 2024 #62
As a proud Gen Xer...I'd love to count her in our ranks Docreed2003 Jul 2024 #31
She was born in 64... technically not Gen X. WarGamer Jul 2024 #32
Not "Generation X." She was born during the last year of the baby boom. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #33
She's a very young Boomer. I doubt we Gen Xers will ever produce a president. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #51
FACT: The peak year of the Baby Boom was not 1946 or 1950. It was 1957, valleyrogue Jul 2024 #52
GenX start year ibegurpard Jul 2024 #56
I'm gen X and we claim MaineBlueBear Jul 2024 #60
I'm Gen X but have a bit of Boomer in me because my brothers were several years older than me. chowder66 Jul 2024 #61
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