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markpkessinger

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74. I am a gay man, and would love to see Buttigieg as the VP pick. BUT . . .
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 07:00 PM
Jul 2024

. . . I am also a realist when it comes to the need to defeat Donald Trump, and I recognize that homophobia continues to be a thing among the electorate. I worry that having a gay man on the same ticket with a mixed race woman might be a tad too much diversity for some voters -- particularly some independent/unaffiliated voters, from whom we must draw heavily if we are to win.

It isn't a matter of retreating from being a "big tent" party, but a matter of cold, hard political calculus.

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The goal is to keep Motherfucker away from the White House Aviation Pro Jul 2024 #1
Indiana was not the question nor the reason given to keep him off the ticket. William769 Jul 2024 #2
He's not being 'kept off the ticket' Aviation Pro Jul 2024 #15
Your concern is noted. William769 Jul 2024 #16
what misstep is that? WarGamer Jul 2024 #98
he's never been on ANY list I've seen for VP. oldsoftie Jul 2024 #55
He doesn't need to be on the list. William769 Jul 2024 #57
knowing that some people won't vote for someone gay NoRethugFriends Jul 2024 #102
The Venn diagram of people who hate gays and people who won't vote for Dems is a circle. ms liberty Jul 2024 #134
People who wouldn't vote for a gay man are already Trump voters. WarGamer Jul 2024 #139
There is a report he is being vetted BootinUp Jul 2024 #63
I understood he was being vetted. MLAA Jul 2024 #104
He doesn't live in Indiana anymore. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #6
He is unelected in Michigan, he is best known and arrived on the national scene as mayor of Indianapolis Aviation Pro Jul 2024 #13
Mayor of South Bend soandso Jul 2024 #18
Next Governor of Michigan. multigraincracker Jul 2024 #27
Maybe that's one of the reasons they moved to Michigan? FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #93
Lots of reasons to leave Indiana.... TommyT139 Jul 2024 #105
And THAT needs to be the sole focus on this race. Everything else take a back seat. oldsoftie Jul 2024 #54
Pete lives in Michigan now. Celerity Jul 2024 #94
I didn't know that. I thought maybe he moved to Niles Emile Jul 2024 #117
I guess some just can't deal yet, and its sad really CANADIANBEAVER69 Jul 2024 #3
Thank you. William769 Jul 2024 #7
You're right.What Mayor Pete brings to the table IS what matters. nbsmom Jul 2024 #35
It doesn't matter to us here on DU who you love calguy Jul 2024 #42
Your imputed reality dickthegrouch Jul 2024 #58
And they don't even see it Politicub Jul 2024 #64
Sorry to inform you calguy Jul 2024 #76
Like I said to someone else, maybe one day you'll get it. n/t Politicub Jul 2024 #83
I already have calguy Jul 2024 #120
Whatever...dick the grouch calguy Jul 2024 #75
I do understand the reality CANADIANBEAVER69 Jul 2024 #61
Ditto, thank you. EastBayGuy Jul 2024 #62
what states can he bring DonCoquixote Jul 2024 #85
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #86
it would feel like force feeding. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #4
Was it a bridge too far with Gays in the military? Was it a bridge too far with marriage equality? William769 Jul 2024 #10
it's a bridge too far having a black woman of color stop the ticket with a gay running mate. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #23
Whats wrong with adding to their fear? William769 Jul 2024 #26
It's the risk factor that scares me sitting in the big tent. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #41
what has he done that Whitmer or Shapiro cannot do DonCoquixote Jul 2024 #88
he is the best communicator our Party has, he is almost otherworldly in his ability to respond to any situation Celerity Jul 2024 #112
Then he should be a spokesperson. edisdead Jul 2024 #126
WOKE is positive. Has never been negative Traurigkeit Jul 2024 #19
it's negative to a huge portion of the public through gaslighting. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #25
I keep hearing it always seems impossible until it's done since Kamala became our nominee. Politicub Jul 2024 #65
What if we had an open convention? SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #72
It keeps getting worse. Politicub Jul 2024 #73
sorry. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #101
Yes, this is Democratic Underground kcr Jul 2024 #135
An open convention for the nominee? No. oldsoftie Jul 2024 #116
Exactly SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #124
Yes! but you've been here long enough to know how it works though oldsoftie Jul 2024 #133
I hear you Skittles Jul 2024 #5
Pete is the cream of the crop? edisdead Jul 2024 #127
Nothing's been decided yet, has it? spanone Jul 2024 #8
No. I wish I could add my two cents here. William769 Jul 2024 #14
I've read that Pete is being vetted along with others. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #9
Democrats run scared. It's what we do. Gore1FL Jul 2024 #11
If you are not running scared right, now, you are not paying attention. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #39
I am not scared of the GOP's false narratives. nt Gore1FL Jul 2024 #67
That is because you are not the one falling for them. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #90
Why can't we do that with a homosexual vice president? nt Gore1FL Jul 2024 #95
Maybe we can. I will trust Harris to decide. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #107
I am sorry but why must we do it with a homosexual vp? edisdead Jul 2024 #128
I prefer Mayor Pete. He happens to be homosexual. It's not a crieria, but rather a deal-breaker for some. Gore1FL Jul 2024 #132
A woman alone is a significant lift in this country. TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #111
Sad and frustrating! brer cat Jul 2024 #12
We didn't SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #17
I wrote in Behind the Aegis's thread in LBGTQ that we aren't yet the people we like to think we are. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #20
Please let's not stir stuff up. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #21
Exactly what am I stirring up? William769 Jul 2024 #24
Questioning our candidate's ability to make her own choices. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #30
I am not Questioning our candidate's ability to make her own choices William769 Jul 2024 #38
Do you think that a gay VP would not be a wedge issue in the swing states Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #43
I am so over wedge issues. William769 Jul 2024 #46
My existence is a wedge issue to some Politicub Jul 2024 #68
Ok. whatever. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #43
Being gay or female isn't a weakness. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #47
I agree; neither is a weakness,; neither is color, but only recently in our history Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #92
Lm torn Figarosmom Jul 2024 #22
Everybody is welcome into the tent. pwb Jul 2024 #28
I agree, there are leaders all over the world that are women, or are gay and some are gay women. Bev54 Jul 2024 #29
This is less a teaching moment, than a winning one. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #37
We just nominated a black woman and you think we're not a big tent party? onenote Jul 2024 #31
I never said he is the best candidate. William769 Jul 2024 #70
When we became the party of reality at a time when we really, really, really elocs Jul 2024 #32
I believe that Harris has asked for him to submit info required for vetting... hlthe2b Jul 2024 #33
Thank you for your post. William769 Jul 2024 #71
Overall, we are Kaleva Jul 2024 #34
Sorry, fear of a "first" to far ..... pat_k Jul 2024 #36
Whoever is picked - some will be upset - but the person chosen will be the best choice for the role getagrip_already Jul 2024 #40
I'm gay and I don't particularly like Pete. yardwork Jul 2024 #45
And thats fine. William769 Jul 2024 #48
Agreed. yardwork Jul 2024 #49
EastBayGuy Jul 2024 #66
What is it you don't like about the McKinsey work? FHRRK Jul 2024 #91
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2024 #50
Thank you! William769 Jul 2024 #52
There's also a lot of enthusiasm for Buttigieg. n/t Mister Ed Jul 2024 #51
Pete doesnt bring a State with him. THATS what's needed here. oldsoftie Jul 2024 #53
Baby, we are in uncharted territory in so many ways right now. Politicub Jul 2024 #69
But electoral College votes are all the matters. nt oldsoftie Jul 2024 #77
Maybe one day you'll get it. n/t Politicub Jul 2024 #82
We have ONE way to elect presidents. That is all I need to "get" oldsoftie Jul 2024 #114
Arguably, no VP candidate has "brought" their state since LBJ in 1960. tritsofme Jul 2024 #80
Kamala and Pete is the ticket of my dreams Politicub Jul 2024 #56
You are correct & thank you. William769 Jul 2024 #59
I'm not sure it's claudette Jul 2024 #60
I am a gay man, and would love to see Buttigieg as the VP pick. BUT . . . markpkessinger Jul 2024 #74
We submit to their fear mongering. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #78
I think now is the perfect time and he is an awesome cadidate. LizBeth Jul 2024 #79
Pete's my favorite! Lars39 Jul 2024 #81
We can't always get what we want Mz Pip Jul 2024 #84
Harris/Buttigieg for the win! pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #89
Rec nt berniesandersmittens Jul 2024 #96
I'm for Pete... lame54 Jul 2024 #97
I don't really see his orientation as being a line in sand among Democrats. Torchlight Jul 2024 #99
These picks are always strategic in some way. alarimer Jul 2024 #100
Seems clear to me vercetti2021 Jul 2024 #103
Fair point JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #106
He would be a great choice! iemanja Jul 2024 #108
I don't understand the question. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #109
What? It's just pragmatic. scipan Jul 2024 #110
So... I've had a lot going on and not seen who is objecting to Buttigieg Ohio Joe Jul 2024 #113
No one is relayerbob Jul 2024 #115
William is no shit stirrer Ohio Joe Jul 2024 #119
+1000 BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #138
I hear you. My top choice is Wes Moore, but I've been told that ecstatic Jul 2024 #118
To begin with, your premise is risible. Abolishinist Jul 2024 #121
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Keep your eyes on the prize. Hekate Jul 2024 #122
the tent is big but there is only 1 VP chair. Takket Jul 2024 #123
The tent is fine. I think you have a oroblem with other having opinions edisdead Jul 2024 #125
I've been reading this thread on and off today Bettie Jul 2024 #129
I love Pete jmbar2 Jul 2024 #130
who is "we" and "us" Nimble_Idea Jul 2024 #131
Bc we don't have the luxury to put up anyone that doesn't bring us a win. FlyingPiggy Jul 2024 #136
Yeah Dems are a small tent party. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #137
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