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MadameButterfly

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82. Do you think MAGA or undecideds will give Kelly credit
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 05:39 PM
Jul 2024

on border and guns? Any Dem can point out that Trump killed the bipartisan immigration bill to keep the problem for the election.
I suppose I should look up what Kelly says to understand why he can do something different.

All of the candidates have a downside. Whitmer would be a shoe-in if the top of the ticket was male. Shapiro will bring PA but being Jewish might be an issue for MI. Anyone know his stand on Israel/Gaza? Beashear is exciting but young might not play well with Kamala getting dinged for gravitas for being a woman, and he brings no state. Mark Kelly seems not as exciting as the first 3, though very strong--but I still think the potential loss of a Senate seat should be disqualifying. Buttigieg--the most articulate but gayis risky and how many glass ceilings can we break with democracy at stake?

i should check out Priztger, Cooper more but haven't found them exciting so far. Unlikely either will bring us a state, but if they do, not as critical as PA and MI.

Man, this was easier when candidates were all white men and we were just looking at geography.

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Thanks for giving that insight senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #1
+1 n/t Mister Ed Jul 2024 #12
I'm in. Harris/Beshear mzmolly Jul 2024 #2
What are the odds of another Democrat being elected governor in Kentucky? Slim and none. OMGWTF Jul 2024 #45
Yeah, that's what worries me. ShazzieB Jul 2024 #47
I don't know enough about the political landscape in KY mzmolly Jul 2024 #48
The Lt Governor will advance and Andy is term limited. TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #58
Good to hear! ShazzieB Jul 2024 #64
Not great HOWEVER epreic01 Jul 2024 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author edisdead Jul 2024 #80
He won't give us the state or help with the rust-belt where we win...Shapiro is the best pick. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #79
Works for me! calimary Jul 2024 #3
I'd be very happy with Andy as Kamala's VP running mate Bundbuster Jul 2024 #4
I think we need two younger candidates, too. CrispyQ Jul 2024 #5
I agree... mamajudi Jul 2024 #16
I like him a lot travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #6
I think Shapiro is too moderate with his private school Emile Jul 2024 #7
But he will bring us Pennsylvania MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #13
As far as I know Beshear is against School vouchers standingtall Jul 2024 #15
That's a huge plus for me. Emile Jul 2024 #24
Me too but in this election MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #29
I been hearing that argument all my life. At 73 how Emile Jul 2024 #31
It will never go away MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #32
How did Biden and Harris win? Emile Jul 2024 #34
The former Senator from MBNA was the moderate. TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #59
Thats why Bernie Sanders supported and Emile Jul 2024 #62
Joe Biden didn't pop into existence in 2020 TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #69
Okay 👌 Emile Jul 2024 #70
Covid, which Trump botched MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #81
"Balancing the ticket" isn't necessary this year jmowreader Jul 2024 #72
Cooper ticks all those boxes. And can take NC. JanMichael Jul 2024 #85
I was referring to Shapiro MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #26
Remember Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with West Virginia in the middle Buckeyeblue Jul 2024 #20
Beshear can speak to many of the people who need persuading MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #27
Shapiro epreic01 Jul 2024 #68
No matter what we are not getting West Virgina. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #41
I'm not saying that... Buckeyeblue Jul 2024 #49
Not Shapiro! cannabis_flower Jul 2024 #50
Not only could we lose Michigan, we could lose a critical mass of Gen Z. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #54
OK, that is disqualifying MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #84
But he will make a lot of Gen Z angry with his extremely pro-Israel stance. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #53
He's very charismatic BUT epreic01 Jul 2024 #67
The First Major Harrison Decision Will Be Her VP Choice - I Hope She Aces That Decision Indykatie Jul 2024 #8
We have an "embarrassment of riches' from which to pull. Beshear is definitely one of them. hlthe2b Jul 2024 #9
All good, however... pat_k Jul 2024 #10
I don't think its worth risking a swing state senate seat MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #14
I vacillate pat_k Jul 2024 #39
Do you think MAGA or undecideds will give Kelly credit MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #82
pat_k.... Upthevibe Jul 2024 #51
Veepstakes calculus rarely points to a clear "best" pat_k Jul 2024 #61
Everyone seems to like Andy Beshear. yardwork Jul 2024 #11
I agree on Roy Cooper pat_k Jul 2024 #42
I like Beshear too. MiKenMi33 Jul 2024 #17
That would be brilliant MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #33
As a fellow Kentuckian, I couldn't have said it better myself! steelyboo Jul 2024 #43
Could Andy be a Senator? Yes epreic01 Jul 2024 #71
No matter who she picks as VP angrychair Jul 2024 #18
Exactly. TomSlick Jul 2024 #44
Your post is an excellent argument for Beshear Politicub Jul 2024 #19
Is there another dem waiting in the wings that could be elected governor? 2 Meow Momma Jul 2024 #21
Jacqueline Coleman is Lieutenant Governor of KY and is a Democrat standingtall Jul 2024 #22
Good to know! Thanks. nt 2 Meow Momma Jul 2024 #25
Mea Culpa ! I thought the Lt Gov was a Republican. He might leave in that case. nt yellowdogintexas Jul 2024 #38
Story time... blueknight73 Jul 2024 #23
my dream for Andyh is McTurtle's Senate seat. I think the timing is right for yellowdogintexas Jul 2024 #37
I feel like he should run for the Senate seat. I understand Mitch is retiring, is that correct? msfiddlestix Jul 2024 #28
Something else to consider epreic01 Jul 2024 #73
Very informative, thank you for demystifying that aspect of Kentucky's voting trends msfiddlestix Jul 2024 #75
He'd be a great pick and really able to reach those rural working people we need in swing states. Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #30
Gov Andy is awesome. He ran one of the most effective COVID responses in the country yellowdogintexas Jul 2024 #35
The Lt. Gov of KY is a Democrat. Music Man Jul 2024 #60
I saw that in another post (and pronounced Mea Culpa) nt yellowdogintexas Jul 2024 #66
She has so many excellent, excellent folks to choose from. lark Jul 2024 #36
Earl G The Butler Jul 2024 #40
No matter who Ms. Harris chooses, the hillbilly who wants to treat women's... NNadir Jul 2024 #46
Harris-Beshear sounds very good to me 💪🏻 Miami Blue Jul 2024 #52
My thumbs up. For sure. kyburbonkid Jul 2024 #55
Beshear is my first choice. Whitmer is second. Or vice versa. I like them both. Dem4life1970 Jul 2024 #56
I think bdamomma Jul 2024 #57
He's my favorite to become VP kimbutgar Jul 2024 #63
Andy Beshear is quickly becoming my favorite too. Emile Jul 2024 #74
Lexington DUer checking in get the red out Jul 2024 #76
He's my 2nd choice after Pete! phoenix_rising Jul 2024 #77
re: "This ticket would be exciting and energetic like Clinton/Gore in 92." thesquanderer Jul 2024 #78
No. Keep Beshear governor of this deeply red state. It was incredibly difficult for KY Dems to elect a Dem. gov. onetexan Jul 2024 #83
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