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bluesbassman

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17. During my time in the US Army, I encountered many full bird colonels and a numerous generals. Only one CSM.

Tue Aug 6, 2024, 01:42 PM

Aug 2024

The CSM was by far the most impressive and intimidating man I had ever encountered. Squared away didn't even begin to describe this guy. After listening to him talk for about ten minutes I understood why he was a CSM and and any intimidation I had previously felt was replaced with respect. Later in civilian life I also had the opportunity to meet an interact with a female CSM who made rank in the MPs. Every bit as impressive and professional as any other First Sergeant and above I had known. Those people get to those ranks for a very valid reason: They are competent and know what they're doing.

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Some background info on Walz's military rank [View all] LonePirate Aug 2024 OP

He's a born leader. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #1

That is where he honed his LEADERSHIP skills. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #3

From the age of 17, he learned what being a leader meant. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #7

Leading people COL Mustard Aug 2024 #52

Exactly. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #53

Yup. Those guys are a big deal. If military members tolerate unfounded attacks on his service, they need to brewens Aug 2024 #2

I totally agree! This is a HUGE accomplishment. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #4

Since he earned a college degree, why didnt he become an officer? Mosby Aug 2024 #5

He was an officer Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #12

I'm not taking about semantics. Mosby Aug 2024 #15

It is not semantics Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #25

OK sure, but a 22 yo second lieutenant would be his superior. Mosby Aug 2024 #28

My brother is a master sergeant Metaphorical Aug 2024 #30

Not sure that's true Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #33

I agree with AKFemDem, Johnny. Aristus Aug 2024 #38

Fair enough Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #42

Thanks for clearing this up! ShazzieB Aug 2024 #48

Not an officer in the officer vs enlisted sense AkFemDem Aug 2024 #31

No, that is NOT what commissioned means AkFemDem Aug 2024 #32

Yeah, but Dotard won a "Bowling Participation Trophy" AZ8theist Aug 2024 #50

A CMSgt is not an officer. AkFemDem Aug 2024 #34

Tons of people in the enlisted ranks have degrees AkFemDem Aug 2024 #29

I think he enlisted at 18, so he went to college after his military service. TBF Aug 2024 #45

Those were in parallel Shermann Aug 2024 #55

Ah that makes more sense! nt TBF Aug 2024 #65

He didn't get the college degree until he used his gi benefits questionseverything Aug 2024 #54

Didn't need to be. He's a non-commissioned Officer. haele Aug 2024 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2024 #59

I expect that was solely his choice soldierant Aug 2024 #64

If he was a CSM - he's the man, the top dog....and the person that everyone (enlisted and Officers) listen to.. Dan Aug 2024 #6

You want someone to walk point? Tim is the man. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #10

He's not a "sucker and a loser" like the republican draft-dodging felon thinks BoRaGard Aug 2024 #8

Am I understanding it right, Tim Walz was once the higheet NCO in the Army? brush Aug 2024 #9

No, he was a Command Sergeant Major, but not the Sergeant Major of the Army. rsdsharp Aug 2024 #20

Thanks. Now I'm clear on it. brush Aug 2024 #23

Not quite. He was a CSM in the National Guard, not the Army. bluesbassman Aug 2024 #21

Thank you. brush Aug 2024 #24

Not to be too protective of the reserve components, TomSlick Aug 2024 #61

Oh I wholeheartedly agree and meant no disrespect to the Guard or Reserves. bluesbassman Aug 2024 #63

yyou mean its something tsf's caddy couldn't do? or maybe the guy who runs his pro shop? getagrip_already Aug 2024 #11

Very interesting. StarryNite Aug 2024 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2024 #14

Vance was a corporal in the Marines. Neither would salute the other, rsdsharp Aug 2024 #16

My bad... I could have sworn Vance was a 1LT... deleting. WarGamer Aug 2024 #19

Any good officer recognizes and respects the experience of the NCO's under his command. Aristus Aug 2024 #39

great story, thanks!! I can picture it. WarGamer Aug 2024 #40

During my time in the US Army, I encountered many full bird colonels and a numerous generals. Only one CSM. bluesbassman Aug 2024 #17

That's why I really object when high-ranking officers and NCO's Aristus Aug 2024 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Aug 2024 #18

Vance was a Marine Corporal. rsdsharp Aug 2024 #22

Opps my bad I forgot ! kimbutgar Aug 2024 #26

He attained the rank of CSM geardaddy Aug 2024 #27

First and Command Master Sergeants Metaphorical Aug 2024 #35

Thanks for the explanation geardaddy Aug 2024 #36

I always noticed field grade officers deferred to Command Sergeant Majors. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #37

Command Sergeant Major is equivalent to. . . AverageOldGuy Aug 2024 #43

This is a great post. Thank you for sharing it. PatrickforB Aug 2024 #44

Thanks for the very interesting and relevant information. Martin68 Aug 2024 #46

Sergeant Major --- my uncle rose through all ranks from private to Lt. Colonel. beginning as a 17 year old, joining 3Hotdogs Aug 2024 #47

Thanks for this. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #49

All this information must be wrong or a fabrication of facts. KS Toronado Aug 2024 #51

This story is going around vet circles DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2024 #57

Sounds like FQX started it. KS Toronado Aug 2024 #62

Excellent! I just heard his sound bites from a week to 10 days ago on Sirius XM progress and they were electrifying! BamaRefugee Aug 2024 #56

a navy perspective OldSWODog Aug 2024 #60