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hack89

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9. America has many out of control "cultures"

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:58 AM

Dec 2012

The Alcohol culture is the one that concerns me the most - it is the big killer where I live.

The irony is that while my brain acknowledges the facts that say we have never been safer from violence of any kind, my heart tells me that America is a rougher, less civil place than it use to be.

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Unbelievable! Another example of our out of control gun culture. [View all] Laurian Dec 2012 OP

Uh-oh. You're asking for trouble from the DU gun brigade. Aristus Dec 2012 #1

I know, but this seemed so absurd. I was stunned by it. Laurian Dec 2012 #3

Precious bongbong Dec 2012 #39

Well, it seems clear billh58 Dec 2012 #44

You're missing something else. The shooting happened in Georgia, and the shooter was arrested. slackmaster Dec 2012 #53

Good! bongbong Dec 2012 #65

Not going to issue any judgement on this yet since there isn't much detail justanidea Dec 2012 #2

Execution isn't justified in any of those posibilities. tridim Dec 2012 #4

Exactly. What could have started and ended as a shouting match instead Aristus Dec 2012 #5

Execution? justanidea Dec 2012 #6

IF he didn't have the gun the woman would still be alive n/t malaise Dec 2012 #16

But... sarisataka Dec 2012 #22

It's better to convict someone in the court of public opinion former-republican Dec 2012 #31

Opinion and knee jerk reaction sarisataka Dec 2012 #36

Threatening? bongbong Dec 2012 #67

Exactly madokie Dec 2012 #7

Yea sure, don't want to support gun carrying if you'll upaloopa Dec 2012 #10

Huh? justanidea Dec 2012 #11

You didn't say it was. That would be what people do. upaloopa Dec 2012 #14

You implied by jumping to try and find a justification joeybee12 Dec 2012 #15

You mean like our court system does former-republican Dec 2012 #19

Pathetic. morningfog Dec 2012 #13

I can shoot someone for yelling and screaming at me? Iggo Dec 2012 #18

If the person threatens you and you are in a wheelchair, possibly yes. slackmaster Dec 2012 #20

Yes! Iggo Dec 2012 #60

Got your "Kill Kill Kill" right here, as requested. slackmaster Dec 2012 #75

Thats great! bongbong Dec 2012 #70

My experience is that those who carry in public tend to be callous and perhaps paranoid. Hoyt Dec 2012 #72

Uh context is everything. justanidea Dec 2012 #73

No. justanidea Dec 2012 #25

Another one of our peaceful law abiding gunners upaloopa Dec 2012 #8

America has many out of control "cultures" hack89 Dec 2012 #9

Biggest killer in the U.S and the world former-republican Dec 2012 #21

I have lost more friends and family sarisataka Dec 2012 #26

I believe that! wendylaroux Dec 2012 #29

Old Age kills, too bongbong Dec 2012 #37

I posted something that is true about alcohol deaths in the U.S and the world former-republican Dec 2012 #54

Yes it is less civilized when some gun toter shoots someone in a situation like this. Hoyt Dec 2012 #28

Don't forget you have never been safer and will be even safer next year. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #32

No thanks to guns bongbong Dec 2012 #35

Never said it was due to guns. It is simply a fact that gun violence is at historic lows hack89 Dec 2012 #40

Then why do you keep promoting more and more guns, and your buddies keep carrying in public. Hoyt Dec 2012 #46

I don't promote more and more guns. hack89 Dec 2012 #52

Talking Points bongbong Dec 2012 #58

So you are saying that gun violence is not at historic lows and steadily declining? hack89 Dec 2012 #61

Glad you agree bongbong Dec 2012 #64

I have told you that countless times hack89 Dec 2012 #66

I usually feel safe, and it is not because the gun culture can't keep from arming up. Hoyt Dec 2012 #45

It is because the threat they represent is constantly diminishing hack89 Dec 2012 #55

You don't know jack shit about the situation yet, Hoyt slackmaster Dec 2012 #51

Oh come on, Slack, you guys wanted us to wait years to express an opinion on Zimmerman, Hoyt Dec 2012 #74

No, I expressed my opinion on Zimmerman less than a month after the shooting, and it hasn't changed slackmaster Dec 2012 #76

What happened to "an armed society is a polite society" NRA slogan from a while back? byeya Dec 2012 #12

I guess that implies one will be polite only if you are intimidated by gun owners, huh? sadbear Dec 2012 #23

The complete Heinlein quote puts a slight different spin on it hack89 Dec 2012 #30

The Problem With That, Sir, Is That People Tend To Over-Rate The Odds Of Their Success.... The Magistrate Dec 2012 #48

On the other hand hack89 Dec 2012 #50

Or Simply Resolve To go In Hard, Sir, and Take No Chances The Magistrate Dec 2012 #57

"tone of hysteria" applies to the extremist on both sides hack89 Dec 2012 #59

One Side, Though, Sir, Is Hard Right Wing, And Dangerous On Its Own Terms The Magistrate Dec 2012 #62

So you see no middle ground what so ever? hack89 Dec 2012 #63

Plenty Of Middle Ground, Sir, But It is Not Present In Political Discussion Of Firearms The Magistrate Dec 2012 #69

I would certainly agree with you there. hack89 Dec 2012 #77

I so enjoy reading your posts and discussions with others. n/t Whovian Dec 2012 #79

The problem is more likely car culture and the violence that goes with it slackmaster Dec 2012 #17

So it was her fault? sadbear Dec 2012 #24

There's not enough information to even begin to analyze who was at fault slackmaster Dec 2012 #27

Guns are needed by many people bongbong Dec 2012 #33

I wonder how many other people are shot to death over some Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #34

Nicole Brown ax4john Dec 2012 #38

And the thousands of other knife victims, too. sadbear Dec 2012 #42

A left over billh58 Dec 2012 #47

Another example of the grand American bargain: Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #41

We made the same bargain about alcohol too. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #56

Thou shalt not... 99Forever Dec 2012 #43

Unrec for OP title conflating near half the population with criminal behavior. Ya Basta Dec 2012 #49

She'd be alilve today if the man wasn't armed rustydog Dec 2012 #68

Whoa! believer10101 Dec 2012 #71

Do you have links to this bull you are teaching folks? Are you an NRA "certified" instructor? Hoyt Dec 2012 #78

Now there's one fresh steaming pile... 99Forever Dec 2012 #81

Why is it that every post in GD that has something to do with guns as a murder weapon Whovian Dec 2012 #80

I have news for you Whovian - DU is widely read among people with very diverse beliefs about things. slackmaster Dec 2012 #82

Locking aikoaiko Dec 2012 #83