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lees1975

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21. She met with them prior to the rally, and agreed to set up a meeting to discuss their position at length.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:02 AM
Aug 2024

But they were rude and discourteous anyway.

Here's the way I look at it, and just to be clear before I start, I'm fully supportive of a cease fire, arms embargo and a two state solution. More violence only makes things worse. Regardless of politics, these are human beings who are suffering and resolving that should be a priority.

The only hope for any settlement of the Gaza War is with the United States. This country is a democracy, and the will of the people still prevails. No President has the ability to unilaterally embargo the shipment of arms to Israel, under the treaties that have been negotiated between the two countries, and any embargo would require the approval of the Senate.

Be realistic. It's not exaggerating to say that, not only would the position of Gaza grow immeasurably worse under a Trump Presidency, he would likely give the green light to Netanyahu to wipe Gaza out permanently.

Perhaps a little education in politics is warranted here. These people want something done. Both the President and Vice President have listened, and offered and asked for the patience required to walk through this situation. After meeting with the Vice President and Governor Walz, the response should have been to provide support for the courtesy that was granted. If I were running for President, I'd be a whole lot more inclined and motivated to try and find a reasonable and workable solution to a problem I'd been asked to resolve if those who were asking were polite and courteous, instead of loud and rude. I think the conclusion that has been reached, that these people are narrowly focused on their own interest and haven't really supported Democratic candidates anyway, needs to be brought to their attention. They have no where else to go. So they need to be patient, gain some understanding of how politics works, and participate in the process, and provide the kind of support they are capable of doing without strings attached, knowing that this is the party that is actually listening and is desiring to make things so much better.

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I had to turn off Velshi. [View all] TomSlick Aug 2024 OP
he is pro Palestine and anti Israel. But good on other issues. AlexSFCA Aug 2024 #1
Got it. That does not explain an attempt to defend indefensible behavior. TomSlick Aug 2024 #3
Ali Velshi is a Muslim soandso Aug 2024 #26
Not unconditionally choie Aug 2024 #20
I did not support any nation unconditionally. Ever. Never have, never will. Celerity Aug 2024 #28
I don't even support the United States unconditionally SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #31
Yes, the US falls under my original statement. Same for my other 2 nations of citizenship, the UK and Sweden. Celerity Aug 2024 #33
Turn them all off, you'll be happier. dem4decades Aug 2024 #2
THIS!!! NewHendoLib Aug 2024 #4
true, we do not need corporate media to decide our vote!!! nt ImNotGod Aug 2024 #29
She is right to call out any heckler. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #5
Hecklers or no hecklers, it is a question she will eventually have to address Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #6
I agree that this is a complicated issue that VP Harris needs to address. TomSlick Aug 2024 #8
I agree, but until her position is crystal clear, she should expect hecklers Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #14
Excuse me but he's Full of Shit.. " They met with VP Harris Before and they Still Heckled her.. Cha Aug 2024 #7
They are not about seriously addressing the issue. TomSlick Aug 2024 #9
Exactly and shame on Velshi for not knowing that. And what are Cha Aug 2024 #10
Of course Netanyahu is cheering for Trump. TomSlick Aug 2024 #11
I hadn't thought about Hama wanting TSF to win.. but Cha Aug 2024 #13
Even a blind hog will find an acorn now and then. TomSlick Aug 2024 #37
Thanks for the context. Sad our media can't do their job. rogue emissary Aug 2024 #15
You're Welcome, rogue emissary ... that's exactly Cha Aug 2024 #17
She handled it well Cirsium Aug 2024 #12
Yes She Did.. TY! Cha Aug 2024 #18
I lost all respect when he covered the riots in Minneapolis and was screaming against curfew question everything Aug 2024 #16
More Biases reporting. Cha Aug 2024 #19
She met with them prior to the rally, and agreed to set up a meeting to discuss their position at length. lees1975 Aug 2024 #21
We are limited in what we can do. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #23
They won't vote for us...their leader one of which is Nina Turner vote third party. So I don't care what they think. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #24
The US has no treaties with Israel soandso Aug 2024 #25
First of all those protestors are flying Hamas flags in many case...they do themselves no good. And let me point out Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #22
You make a critical point BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #27
The heckling of H2O Man Aug 2024 #30
How many times was she supposed to allow her speech to be interrupted ecstatic Aug 2024 #32
What she did. He was complimenting her. tirebiter Aug 2024 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author John Shaft Aug 2024 #35
I'll go one extra for ya: John Shaft Aug 2024 #36
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