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Irish_Dem

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35. I disagree.

Sat Aug 17, 2024, 04:24 PM

Aug 2024

Even a rookie politician knows you cannot ask a sitting president from your own party
to resign unless you have a plan B in place.

To do this without a plan is pure madness and stupidity.

And I assure you, Pelosi, Schumer, Raskin, Schiff are not stupid or crazy.

Yes of course, the early debate was part of the plan.

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I owe George Clooney and his wonderful Amal an apology. [View all] Eliot Rosewater Aug 2024 OP

Has he endorsed Harris yet? SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #1

Seems so Eliot Rosewater Aug 2024 #2

I disagree. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #3

I think it was the time factor Skittles Aug 2024 #5

Yes Pelosi make the right decision and time was of the essence. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #7

I think there was simply a lot of resistance from Biden Skittles Aug 2024 #9

Exactly. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #13

I don't think there was any long-term plan Skittles Aug 2024 #19

The plan roll out was flawless. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #21

And they could have made it worse. LisaL Aug 2024 #22

There must have been a worse-scenario, back-up plan that had to be put... brush Aug 2024 #51

she had to be ready Skittles Aug 2024 #25

Assuming the office is one thing. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #32

And Nancy wasn't advocating for Harris to take over. LisaL Aug 2024 #34

I'm not saying there were NO plans Skittles Aug 2024 #39

I think it was Joe's (and Kamala's) plan to have Kamala take over if things LisaL Aug 2024 #41

THIS malaise Aug 2024 #57

I'm guessing there was concern prior to the debate and that the only Tadpole Raisin Aug 2024 #27

I disagree. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #35

I think we mostly agree - they would have to roughly play out Tadpole Raisin Aug 2024 #42

Their plan B was an open convention. jrthin Aug 2024 #49

And a chaotic 'mini-primary.' Hat tip to Joe Biden for immediately throwing his weight behind Harris. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #70

Pelosi was the last person to talk to Biden before the announcement? LisaL Aug 2024 #20

As I understand it Nancy wanted an open convention, she did not want jrthin Aug 2024 #26

That's my understanding as well. LisaL Aug 2024 #29

It's okay to take the L sometimes. BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #46

I disagree. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #40

I haven't seen any evidence to support these ideas. LisaL Aug 2024 #44

++++++ emulatorloo Aug 2024 #68

We have Kamala because Joe immediately endorsed her. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #69

I bet you are right. MLAA Aug 2024 #60

who said "Politics Ain't Beanball"? CTyankee Aug 2024 #6

and I agree with you. I despise the rich, white, and elite when they tell the government what to do and that we EastBayGuy Aug 2024 #8

Yes voters and information from high level Dem elected officials. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #11

You think Biden should have stayed in? Kaleva Aug 2024 #23

The results could have been much different displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #28

Biden ran essentially unopposed Kaleva Aug 2024 #52

Incumbents usually do displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #61

So just one choice in the ballot doesn't indicate overwhelming support Kaleva Aug 2024 #67

Yes. Just because it appears to have turned out well doesn't mean it was well done. tanyev Aug 2024 #14

We can see the plan roll out was almost flawless. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #17

It wasn't looking good before that Kaleva Aug 2024 #24

I hadn't resigned, but was moonscape Aug 2024 #50

+1 Kaleva Aug 2024 #53

Tend to agree with you I_D.... democratsruletheday Aug 2024 #45

I couldn't agree more. F**k him & his spouse. And that goes for the Disney lady as well. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2024 #47

His comments were part of the perfect storm that was needed for us to change ecstatic Aug 2024 #55

I was hard on him also. They were right. I wish it had been a far more private approach, but we are here in MLAA Aug 2024 #4

You weren't wrong, though it has turned out well because serious displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #12

Yep. LisaL Aug 2024 #16

How do you know that there weren't SharonClark Aug 2024 #54

I love him for it, and would have not have had the character to do it myself. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Aug 2024 #10

Screw him. Johonny Aug 2024 #15

Yup, he's dead to me. GoCubsGo Aug 2024 #36

He took some low blows newdeal2 Aug 2024 #18

It would have been the kind of thing the Trump displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #30

Totally Agree macwriter Aug 2024 #37

Exactly MerrilyMerrily Aug 2024 #38

That makes me think everything was coordinated ecstatic Aug 2024 #58

George Clooney is an American hero Sewa Aug 2024 #31

Hah? LisaL Aug 2024 #33

Good post. Seems like some others still have some hurt feels. BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #43

And misplaced anger. SharonClark Aug 2024 #56

And paying the tax is a gift. rickford66 Aug 2024 #48

How did he pay the tax, when the gift was cash? Mosby Aug 2024 #59

You can pay the IRS with check, credit or debit. I'm pretty sure cash won't be accepted. rickford66 Aug 2024 #63

He paid his friends with a suitcase filled with cash. Mosby Aug 2024 #64

I think ... this was all setup. A risk? Of course. Biden and all (whoever all were) played it well. Srkdqltr Aug 2024 #62

I say do WHATEVER it takes to stop fascism. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2024 #65

whatever it takes. Srkdqltr Aug 2024 #66

Do you think they held off until Trump vanlassie Aug 2024 #72

Could be. More likely timed before the convention but not too far before. Srkdqltr Aug 2024 #73

He should have kept his mouth shut LiberalFighter Aug 2024 #71