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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
112. You Seemed To Think It A Red Herring Before
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 06:13 PM
Aug 2024

But neighboring powers are disinclined to succor Hamas, owing both to local grudges and to the place of Hamas in the sectarian strife between Shia and Sunni, which is the chief focus of US policy. Neighboring Arab powers assisted Israel in fending off direct attack by Iran. The Egyptian army has no love for Brotherhood types. There is some possibility of a resolution which creates something which could, without squinting too hard, pass for a state under some permutation of the Palestine Authority, with backing by neighbors who envision its creation as a cessation of the conflict, not a further stage in its progress. The neutering of Hamas is the key, nothing else can be done till that is achieved.

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A lot of Pro Palestinian people support VP Harris. But, many don't mucifer Aug 2024 #1
This group has leaders like Nina Turner. They will not vote for us. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #130
Thank you. Accurate and concise. (And I'm sick of them too.) Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #133
If you needed assistance from a store manager... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #2
They aren't asking for assistance. Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #5
Thay are most certainly asking for assistance Think. Again. Aug 2024 #13
No... they are demanding it under threat of letting Trump win. Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #19
Bingo. The negotiation tactics are essentially blackmail. Do X, Y and Z or we'll help Trump win. PeaceWave Aug 2024 #118
Right, even though Harris has given every indicator she's wanting to progress the situation uponit7771 Aug 2024 #145
That's NOT a progressive way to request help uponit7771 Aug 2024 #144
Good point in your last question. So why are wnylib Aug 2024 #6
Our kids are seeing dead and headless baby videos on their phones everyday womanofthehills Aug 2024 #12
The gunshots to the head are a very worrying thing. yardwork Aug 2024 #31
Yes. betsuni Aug 2024 #39
We have seen videos this week of Israeli military womanofthehills Aug 2024 #63
Your links don't say what you claim. yardwork Aug 2024 #64
Al Jazeera takes down video falsely alleging IDF rapes in Shifa Hospital Mosby Aug 2024 #91
That's from March questionseverything Aug 2024 #102
Israeli military gang raping Palestinians? Unless you post something akin to evidence, you're committing libel elias7 Aug 2024 #104
Take your blinders off. AloeVera Aug 2024 #111
The post you replied to is 100% accurate Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #114
Your first sentence is 100% without basis. AloeVera Aug 2024 #116
You are not joking, are you? Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #119
The deflection is yours. Nothing new. AloeVera Aug 2024 #125
An apparently necessary reminder of what you were talking about. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #139
I don't believe half of that shit. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #132
Ah yes, one should never believe AkFemDem Aug 2024 #146
Now the pile-on starts... AloeVera Aug 2024 #150
Correction. No further response. AloeVera Aug 2024 #157
See post #157. AloeVera Aug 2024 #158
There is a logical disconnect in your description of why they wnylib Aug 2024 #32
+1 betsuni Aug 2024 #40
Viewing that material is a choice BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #33
Then they should be working tirelessly to get her elected. edisdead Aug 2024 #42
I suggest you change the channel...those protesters are Democratic Party haters...Nina Turner is involved and Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #65
Lot of these people are out there though on October 8th Jk23 Aug 2024 #80
children died horribly in Isareal when Hamas died to. Hamas won't negotiate. They are at fault. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #131
Perhaps they could raise funds for hungry kids here...and all that happens is the money is funneled to Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #135
That's a good question also... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #14
You think Vice President Harris is going to listen to pro-Hamas weirdos? lapucelle Aug 2024 #7
I can see you're determined to amplify division... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #16
The Public Record Amplifies Division The Magistrate Aug 2024 #18
Making this a topic of discussion with no other purpose... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #21
You Have A Very Republican Idea Of Unity, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2024 #22
um, yeah. In any case... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #23
I Look Forward To Your Calls For Unity Directed At Hamas Supporters Assailing Democratic Candidates The Magistrate Aug 2024 #26
Sorry to inform you I do not have any contact with... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #27
Post Twenty-Four The Magistrate Aug 2024 #30
I have never met a pro-Hamas individual. One cannot be anti-war or anti actions of Israel PufPuf23 Aug 2024 #48
Now That, That's Rich The Magistrate Aug 2024 #50
What are you talking about? Said had never met a person that was pro-Hamas. PufPuf23 Aug 2024 #55
I Do Apologize For Personalizing The Matter In Addressing You The Magistrate Aug 2024 #61
"...is something common to all wars, not something peculiar to this one." Hear! Hear! EX500rider Aug 2024 #71
Problem is that the Iraq War was based on lies and the Afghan War on poor strategy. nt PufPuf23 Aug 2024 #120
Yet both produced vastly more dead civilians without a peep about "genocide" EX500rider Aug 2024 #121
Well perhaps you could? Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #134
We absolutely need to amplify the division between the Democratic Party and the Pro-Hamas protestors. lapucelle Aug 2024 #35
As I'm sure you know, I was obviously referring to... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #36
Do not make assumptions about what I do and do not know, especially when it is something in your head. lapucelle Aug 2024 #37
right. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #38
What does that even mean? lapucelle Aug 2024 #41
I suggest you consider that both Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman lost their respective primaries. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #66
Thank you for your input, but obviously, my post was about... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #67
I don't think there is enough of them...we would lose far more seats if we lost the Jewish vote. And I believe just like Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #136
Thanks for the reminder, Dems.. Cha Aug 2024 #74
Mine too. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #137
Agree BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #34
what do you think those asshats protesting at Democratic events are doing???? RAB910 Aug 2024 #8
So you think it's right for us to join them in that? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #15
That's how they got Bibi elected in 1996. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #52
they're disrupting the store operations not going for help uponit7771 Aug 2024 #143
Here they are last night, holding pictures of Simwar while disrupting a Harris event in Harlem. lapucelle Aug 2024 #3
Shameful! RAB910 Aug 2024 #9
They Assist The Christo-Fascist Right Trump Represents The Magistrate Aug 2024 #4
Last night in NY, weirdos supporting a brutal, theocratic, authoritarian, right wing autocracy lapucelle Aug 2024 #10
There was a pro-netanyahu action in NY last night? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #17
There was a pro-Hamas march last night that targeted VP Harris and Gov Walz. lapucelle Aug 2024 #20
"Comedy Is Best Left To Professionals' The Magistrate Aug 2024 #24
Ha! Yes, you're right, but I was just going for snark anyway. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #25
Snark Is Far Trickier Than Comedy: If You Can't Manage That You'll Never Master Snark The Magistrate Aug 2024 #28
Luckily certain situations give me plenty of chance to practice! Think. Again. Aug 2024 #29
Weirdos bellowing "Intifada! Intifada! in Harlem outside of a Harris-Walz event lapucelle Aug 2024 #11
K&R betsuni Aug 2024 #43
Many Americans are upset at the carnage in Gaza and want it to stop Deminpenn Aug 2024 #44
Helping get the GOP elected will make things worse RAB910 Aug 2024 #45
I Don't Remember Demonstrators Bearing Banners Of Saddam Above Their Ranks The Magistrate Aug 2024 #46
Hello Magistrate. thucythucy Aug 2024 #58
The point is, many Americans are shocked and appalled at Deminpenn Aug 2024 #68
A Fair Proportion Are, Or Are Indistinguishable In Their Intent And Actions From Supporters Of Hamas The Magistrate Aug 2024 #72
I dunno. Awfully aidish and comforty to Putin, Chump and the Republicans though. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #83
Perhaps you missed the two primaries where progressive who support the Palestinian protests both lost. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #138
Why aren't they protesting at Trump events? Why aren't they protesting at GOP events? LeftInTX Aug 2024 #53
I was at some of those demos. thucythucy Aug 2024 #56
Correct. We were not called Saddam-lovers. AloeVera Aug 2024 #57
Actually, I recall lots of insults hurled my way as an anti-Iraq war demonstrator and activist. thucythucy Aug 2024 #59
All true. AloeVera Aug 2024 #60
The Radicals Were There From the Start, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2024 #62
I suppose the 6,000 bombs dropped in the first week, starting Oct. 7, had nothing to do with it. AloeVera Aug 2024 #164
Bullshit. You've been shown videos and news articles of pro-Hamas celebrations beginning Oct 8. yardwork Aug 2024 #127
Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2024 #110
"Correct. We were not called Saddam-lovers." But you probably didn't carry Saddam signs or wear Ba'athists colors? EX500rider Aug 2024 #93
A bit of both I'm guessing. AloeVera Aug 2024 #113
In a protest where Hamas flags are waved, militant slogans are chanted and Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #115
You may recall the large protests across the world over many months, across many cities and yes in the millions. AloeVera Aug 2024 #117
Did you already forget what you replied to? Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #122
Try to be less mean, ok? NT AloeVera Aug 2024 #124
OK, I will try. As soon as you try to pay more attention to the facts than Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #141
Deal. AloeVera Aug 2024 #148
But I can still play games with you like you did with me, right? Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #149
No. Why can't we have an honest conversation? AloeVera Aug 2024 #152
This remnds me of a Confucius tale. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #155
You just can't help it. AloeVera Aug 2024 #156
When terrorists banners and slogans are used at the rallies I have not seen any objections EX500rider Aug 2024 #123
Bull. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #82
"It is not one iota different than protests here in the US" EX500rider Aug 2024 #92
Nonsense. I remember post 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq very well. yardwork Aug 2024 #126
Then why not press Hamas Mossfern Aug 2024 #163
It's logical to presume that people intend the predictable outcomes of their actions. TomSlick Aug 2024 #47
Follow the money Hekate Aug 2024 #49
Here... Behind the Aegis Aug 2024 #70
Exactly this!! They are not even remotely on my radar. FlyingPiggy Aug 2024 #51
I'm so old. I have seen this ratfuckery played out since Nixon. Think Roger Stone, he's still getting idiots OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2024 #54
Let the bigots tear themselves apart. Behind the Aegis Aug 2024 #69
Activists will target people they see as movable onandup Aug 2024 #73
They are attacking and dragging down RAB910 Aug 2024 #75
What efforts have they made to "move Harris to the left" thucythucy Aug 2024 #77
Move Left? The Magistrate Aug 2024 #78
23% of Democrats and 76% of Republicans approve of military action Israel has taken in Gaza onandup Aug 2024 #81
Wrong Question The Magistrate Aug 2024 #85
If you recognize its necessity then you approve onandup Aug 2024 #90
The Right Measure By What Standard, Sir? The Magistrate Aug 2024 #96
How about less red herrings and condescending remarks onandup Aug 2024 #97
But It Is Inevitable The Magistrate Aug 2024 #98
A Palestinain state, or a single state onandup Aug 2024 #108
You Seemed To Think It A Red Herring Before The Magistrate Aug 2024 #112
Nah, we've seen powers in the region up the threats onandup Aug 2024 #153
I don't knowabout your statement Mossfern Aug 2024 #159
68% of Israeli Jews say Israel should not allow humanitarian aid to Gaza onandup Aug 2024 #161
Apparently Mossfern Aug 2024 #162
Because it is a red herring canuckledragger Aug 2024 #165
But It Is Inevitable canuckledragger Aug 2024 #167
"The level of death and destruction shouldn't be seen as an inevitable" EX500rider Aug 2024 #103
Only one side gets their arms embargoed. marybourg Aug 2024 #105
Israel has a massive arms advantage onandup Aug 2024 #106
Over Iran? marybourg Aug 2024 #107
Over the Palestinians is what I meant onandup Aug 2024 #109
No, that's not what activists do. betsuni Aug 2024 #79
Khomeini, Putin, Chump, Sinwar, and the Republicans are not left. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #84
Unrest and protests can cost the incumbent party the election ecstatic Aug 2024 #88
"They are pressuring Harris to move left." And do you think carrying Yahya Sinwar signs and shouting about Intifada... EX500rider Aug 2024 #94
Of Course It Won't, And It's Not Intended To The Magistrate Aug 2024 #99
Then why is the Harris team talking to them? onandup Aug 2024 #154
We can dispense with the idiotic pretense canuckledragger Aug 2024 #166
This is tearing down help not helping help help them uponit7771 Aug 2024 #147
Just my hunch... kentuck Aug 2024 #76
Who is outside and who is inside and why is it so hard to tell the difference? TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #89
Super weird. And when people act that weird ecstatic Aug 2024 #86
A note to pro-Palestinian protesters kansasobama Aug 2024 #87
They're misguided supporting a highly patriarchal anti-gay society because "Jews." joshcryer Aug 2024 #95
I wish I could articulate why this topic agitates the living fuck out of me... OneGrassRoot Aug 2024 #100
That's a head scratcher demosincebirth Aug 2024 #101
Everyone expects change to come from the Democratic Party MaryMagdaline Aug 2024 #128
Unless we have a landslide this year, we can only do so much...they want stuff done then vote for us. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #140
Yep MaryMagdaline Aug 2024 #151
Trump's republicans support Hamas in one aspect... killing more Jews. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #129
They're not pro anything- AkFemDem Aug 2024 #142
While it's pretty likely there's Republican & Hamas help behind this, don't discount simple self-righteous stupidity RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #160
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