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119. Do you think that's what the Harris campaign is doing?

Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:47 AM

Sep 2024

Because the emails I get either talk about how she is an underdog or how tight the polls are. Why people respond so negatively to that same message here, I don’t know, other than perhaps they resent the suggestion that they might need to volunteer to bring us over the edge. I’ve noticed people respond negatively to GOTV threads.

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Reality check - It's a Tied Race: Unskewing polls or dunking on Nate Silver is not going to win us this election. [View all] realtruthflavor Sep 2024 OP

I can do both Keepthesoulalive Sep 2024 #1

A fresh article on RawStory says Silver is being paid by Peter Thiel TheBlackAdder Sep 2024 #84

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Not sure, but since Thiel is a hardcore Trumper there might have been come creative spinning. TheBlackAdder Sep 2024 #95

lol obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #2

The Truth is that GOTV is What Matters Aepps22 Sep 2024 #3

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This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Sep 2024 #5

Turnout Turnout Turnout!! Mad_Machine76 Sep 2024 #6

This finger wagging isn't helpful kcr Sep 2024 #7

It's an important reminder iemanja Sep 2024 #103

it isn't a "tied" race... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #8

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Massive turnout, donations, and social media for Harris... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #19

There is no longer any such thing as a "high quality national poll." lees1975 Sep 2024 #31

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This poll was caught deliberately fucking with sample size previously. I think they should print it on Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #49

Of course they were, after they adjusted their data when it became clear that they were off, a couple of weeks out. lees1975 Sep 2024 #75

You mean the polls owned by trump supporters? onecaliberal Sep 2024 #76

It is tied. They are both have zero votes right now. whopis01 Sep 2024 #64

Good points... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #69

If 2020 wasn't a blowout, 2024 won't be either. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #83

She has been going further down in the polls and lost momentum. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 2024 #71

Debunking untruths and demonstrating displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #10

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It's not just the NYT now. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #14

Many here are falling for the same trap Republicans fell into in 2022. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #11

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Is that so...personally I find doom and gloom troubling. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #17

Poll framing is what I have a problem with displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #18

Pretending that polls are ironclad predictors kcr Sep 2024 #37

I'm going with Prof. Allan Lichtman DoBW Sep 2024 #100

It is trash now...they have changed their methods... Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #23

Their polls match two other respected polls that show the race tied. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #25

Yep LW1977 Sep 2024 #30

Except the ones that were spot on, right? Self Esteem Sep 2024 #41

Yes. As predictors they are trash kcr Sep 2024 #38

I'm pretty sure they had cell phones in 2020. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #39

That lead was actually over-stated kcr Sep 2024 #42

Polls generally give you a good perspective of what the race looks like. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #45

There it is. Margin. kcr Sep 2024 #48

I've not ignored anything. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #50

Polls should be used to watch trends, nothing more. Bev54 Sep 2024 #72

Trends and mood. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #74

The Real Trap Is Focusing On Polling Instead of Actually Helping. Aepps22 Sep 2024 #24

I've maxed out my contributions to Harris. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #26

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I've reiterated that here a billion times. Deaf ears. Sympthsical Sep 2024 #43

YEP Cosmocat Sep 2024 #92

I agree, GOTV is the correct action blogslug Sep 2024 #15

GOTV is critical, that I hope we can all agree on!! nt TBF Sep 2024 #52

Welcome! Enjoy your stay...and the polls are up and down... Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #16

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Welcome to DU!! Meant sincerely. Sometimes this place veers too far into a bubble. nt LAS14 Sep 2024 #34

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You decide. In general we support Democrats here...so we are likeminded Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #46

Not to mention there is a TOS for the board (like most forums) - TBF Sep 2024 #51

That is a very good suggestion. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #59

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Sure... Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #88

lol obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #57

"Enjoy your stay" is something often posted in response to a troll onenote Sep 2024 #21

I'm sure trolls get agreed with on DU by longtimers from time to time kcr Sep 2024 #27

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Did they actualy come here on DU and berate people for complaining about the polls? kcr Sep 2024 #44

Well said obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #58

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"tough love" obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #60

On DU RobinA Sep 2024 #80

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Thanks for letting me know. And this discussion is not appropriate. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #54

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I guess mistakes are made... Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #89

Meh. The discussion seems appropriate enough. "The polls are all wrong" is part of what Maru Kitteh Sep 2024 #68

That is not what I was talking about when I used the word appropriate Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #90

Turns out MIRt thought so and delivered the well earned pizza. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #112

Nate Silver works for a predictions market awesomerwb1 Sep 2024 #22

He also works for Peter Thiel and spits out right wing polls these days. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Sep 2024 #105

Good on ya! as my Australian friend would say. nt LAS14 Sep 2024 #29

Why is the OP "good on ya"? obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #61

I agree...and Nate Silver works for Peter Thiel. Rightwing polls on demand these days Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #66

Because I like the post. I'm energized by clear thinking. Don't like bubbles. nt LAS14 Sep 2024 #77

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Polls are commercial, money making entities. lees1975 Sep 2024 #33

brooklyn Mets fan? Prairie Gates Sep 2024 #47

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The real reality is polls are not elections. And these polls are as reliable as tossing dice. bullimiami Sep 2024 #55

Reverse finito: Explain what Harris did to lose her advantage? GreenWave Sep 2024 #56

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Until you can tell us all if they are using up to date voter rolls that include Bev54 Sep 2024 #73

The polls we're seeing today don't show her losing the advantage. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #70

I love when brand new posters take it upon themselves to tell us what's wrong with us. It's so refreshing. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #78

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Yes, I know. As I said, you've arrived to tell us all what's wrong with us. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #82

Well said obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #85

Absolutely. SWBTATTReg Sep 2024 #101

I know right... Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #91

It's not either or senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #86

You are right Tweedy Sep 2024 #87

Who is asserting that criticizing polls will change an election? Torchlight Sep 2024 #96

Deep. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #129

Ridiculous ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #97

You go, Prof obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #99

I knew you were a math guy! Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #102

You disagree with GOTV? iemanja Sep 2024 #108

My Post Was In English ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #122

He made two points iemanja Sep 2024 #128

I Didn't Say "Points" ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #130

Oh. iemanja Sep 2024 #131

No Objection ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #133

Excellent - And it looks like you're channeling The Magistrate! GoneOffShore Sep 2024 #123

He And I Got On Famously ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #125

The last 10 polls listed on 538 show Harris ahead in 8 of them... Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #98

The OP has veen Tombstoned obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #104

Their point is nonetheless important iemanja Sep 2024 #106

It really isn't, though obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #109

It's mathematically incorrect to GOTV? iemanja Sep 2024 #111

That isn't their point obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #120

Buh bye. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #107

Reality check--the media is skewing the polls, it is not tied and you are gullible for buying any of this. lees1975 Sep 2024 #110

He no longer works for Theil. iemanja Sep 2024 #113

Tell me you're not that gullible. lees1975 Sep 2024 #114

He just posted it on X iemanja Sep 2024 #116

Lol so yes, he works for him obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #124

I'm carrying the water for the Harris campaign iemanja Sep 2024 #127

Yes, he does work for Thiel obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #121

Enthusiasm is part of it. A HUGE part of it. Iggo Sep 2024 #115

Yes, and hopefully that motivates people iemanja Sep 2024 #117

Well, you don't get out the vote by pouring cold water on enthusiasm. That much I know. Iggo Sep 2024 #118

Do you think that's what the Harris campaign is doing? iemanja Sep 2024 #119

Enjoy your stay is weak jujubeets Sep 2024 #126

The OP was PPRed, so you are talking to a ghost obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #132