When is DU going to be renamed "Pretty Far to the Right Underground"?

[freshwest]

145. Agree with all you said, and we are cool. There is just a limited amount of time. I've tried to show

some peeps solutions or proof that the media meme is not true about Democrats, but after a while it's like talking to a brick wall or a bagger. And we need to stick together, but some people refuse. As the TOS says:

Everyone here on DU needs to work together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.

And election season is not just every four years. We saw what happened in 2010 and some are already threatening to do the same in 2014. To me, that's rooting for the other side. In fact, the constant insults and belittling Democrats as a party in general, is what the media and rightwing say.

It just so happens, many of the voices being trumphed here are not now, and have never been in support of the Democratic Party. They are from libetarian sources, just not labeled as such and take on causes libertarians don't really support, to demoralize Democrats. The Democratic Party is, just as the GOP and Libertarians say, 'the party of government.'

Yes, we are 'guilty as charged.' As shown in the TOS, Skinner also believes in working within government. A great many voices that want government gone, will degrade all of us trying to keep it as an engine of social change and protector of equality.

I've come to see some as dishonest or ill-informed like baggers. Many of their CT is from the same sources as the baggers feed upon. So they are on Ignore. There is no daylight in our values, patrice. I am farther to the left than these CT types. What I want for America is Norwegian-type social democracy. That is far to the left of most people anywhere. I am unimpressed with those who tear down the only means we have of getting it.