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52. Out in the US, SS and Medicare have strong support.

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:28 PM

Dec 2012

What you are hearing is meticulously designed stagecraft to try to convince you that you are outnumbered in public opinion.

The problem is corporate infiltration by the one percent, who have been allowed to purchase and infest our government, our electoral system. and our media.

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Medicare and Social Security are my red line with the Democratic Party [View all] RomneyLies Dec 2012 OP

I agree..... Swede Atlanta Dec 2012 #1

Me too newfie11 Dec 2012 #2

If they cross that line, then we know they truly do not represent us and have RKP5637 Dec 2012 #27

agreed! fascisthunter Dec 2012 #3

I have been debating whether to post this myself.... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #4

Can you imagine the attack ads if a Dem cuts SS & Medicare? JaneyVee Dec 2012 #5

It would also mean that ... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #9

The GOP would be able to run on "preserving" Medicare & SS and people would believe. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #10

But, personally, I could never vote Republican... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #12

I agree. I would NEVER vote Republican either. Ever ever. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #55

"We the people" have been losing a voice for a long time now. This, would confirm what RKP5637 Dec 2012 #29

It is not that we have been losing a voice, rather we have not being vocal enough... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #31

Excellent point!!! Too many today are bred to be lambs and lemmings and they play their RKP5637 Dec 2012 #43

"Not only must Democrats *Never* weaken or otherwise diminish SS and Medicare, Democrats must ... Scuba Dec 2012 #13

That's fair. Barack_America Dec 2012 #6

If Obama signs SS or Medicare cuts, I'll never vote for....oh wait.... Junkdrawer Dec 2012 #7

Who told you Medicare wouldn't be cut? Not Obama. In fact, he already took $ from Medicare.... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #24

K&R forestpath Dec 2012 #8

In what way? You mean no changes at all to Medicare? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #11

We the People pay for SS and Medicare thru payroll taxes... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #15

As I just quoted an expert, Medicare has a big budget problem. I've never heard Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #21

Medicare's problem ProSense Dec 2012 #16

Thank you for saying this!!! SELDOM, do we hear the real cause, the spiraling cost of RKP5637 Dec 2012 #33

Good point, ProSense. What about that provision that doesn't let the govt negotiate drug prices? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #46

Too bad that Obamacare didn't contain adequate cost containment. leveymg Dec 2012 #77

The United States has the best health care system in the world. airplaneman Dec 2012 #22

You'd have to add... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #49

Exactly!!!!! nt newfie11 Dec 2012 #72

+1000 nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #58

Only because we pay twice what civilized countries pay per capital for health care for ALL eridani Dec 2012 #44

Well, our taxes would be higher, wouldn't they? If we had single payer. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #71

The other poster spoke of the absurdly high costs in the US compared to other nations Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #80

No need to be insulting. Maybe you're not up on this issue. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #85

I've been paying for both for more than 36 years RomneyLies Dec 2012 #50

You've been getting a paycheck since age 10 or 11? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #74

Math was wrong, paying for 35 years with another 17 to go. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #76

Oh. I got paid in cash when I was that young. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #78

Worked for a chain department store. Jobs before that were detassling corn and a paper route n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #79

Isn't medicare part of the automatic cuts... iandhr Dec 2012 #14

No...SS and Medicare earned benefits are not part of the sequestration... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #19

Right there with ya! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #17

Why aren't they your red line with the Rethug party? Which party would like to ELIMINATE both pnwmom Dec 2012 #18

I just sent an email objecting to this rumored deal Laurian Dec 2012 #20

If they take SS to 75, that would solve a lot, and how about Medicare to 85. That's how this RKP5637 Dec 2012 #38

Out in the US, SS and Medicare have strong support. woo me with science Dec 2012 #52

The money and corporate infestation into the government has to be removed for the US to RKP5637 Dec 2012 #56

I sent an email a few hours ago... nenagh Dec 2012 #45

Absolutely I'm done with them! nt Raine Dec 2012 #23

If Medicare needs money, get rid of the age eligibility. rocktivity Dec 2012 #25

It wouldn't be the first time sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #26

Well, when I see a Red line AGAINST the Dem Party, it's over. n/t UTUSN Dec 2012 #28

Here, Here or is it Hear, Hear? chuckstevens Dec 2012 #30

It doesn't matter to anyone on DU..except myself but if the Dems mess... BlueJazz Dec 2012 #32

You're lucky to have that option. My hunch is the US is eventually going to be some RKP5637 Dec 2012 #41

Ya know how many times I've heard & said the same thing? Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #34

made that vow to myself awhile back rurallib Dec 2012 #35

I think it is with all of us. Cleita Dec 2012 #36

More than political affiliation to me. Downwinder Dec 2012 #37

I feel the same way. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #39

while I certainly agree in principle... mike_c Dec 2012 #40

So...that means you will start voting for Republicans? davidn3600 Dec 2012 #42

You are wrong on this and anyone else is wrong on this if... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #48

I will vote for neither Dems nor Republicans if the Medicare age is raised. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #53

Don't quit--primary the SOBs! b/t eridani Dec 2012 #47

Of course, that can't be done with Obama. Or Durbin. Or ... AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #57

Increase on taxable wages for SS .. not just $113,700 for the rich .. YOHABLO Dec 2012 #51

Me too, but not if they do something like raise the premiums for those who make more than a certain still_one Dec 2012 #54

This should be the definition of a Democrat. Flatulo Dec 2012 #59

Definitely a red line for me, and from what I hear from most of the Dems I know sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #60

Medicare for all JEB Dec 2012 #61

You speak for many, many people. woo me with science Dec 2012 #62

K&R'd! snot Dec 2012 #63

I will be so fucking gone from this party that I will forget how to pronounce it !!! RagAss Dec 2012 #64

If Social Security and Medicare are so important to the Democratic Party, why should we be the only AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #65

The burden of democracy has always begins with us, the people... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #66

I'm not sure that Andrew Jackson ever said that. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #67

Where did I say he did? TheProgressive Dec 2012 #68

You obviously didn't. You also obviously said something contrary to his demonstrated leadership: AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #70

my single issue is education liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #69

I lost my last red line with Clinton union_maid Dec 2012 #73

Leaked deal memo for last year�s Grand Bargain: �Obama willing to go quite far� jsr Dec 2012 #75

YES edhopper Dec 2012 #81

They already crossed it for me. I'm an Independant like Bernie. Dawgs Dec 2012 #82

Medicare will never be cut -- but the rate of growth might be reduced FarCenter Dec 2012 #83

And if you are done with them, then what? Who would you support? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #84

I reached mine in 2004 Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #86