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37. I would add one thing: division and dischord on the right.

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 02:03 PM

Sep 2024

In 2016 there was a groundswell of unified action on the right that helped Trump. You had all these different "Alt-Right" groups who were energized, pushing for Trump, and using the internet in new ways to boost him. A lot of people were excited about Trump, and there was a groundswell of activity from online right groups that helped propel him to victory.

This year we have Joe Rogan endorsing Kennedy, and being forced to walk it back. We have Nick Fuentes fuming at Trump over several different issues and threatening a "Groyper War". We have a slate of TradCons endorsing Kamala Harris because they view Trump as dangerous. Outside the MAGA faithful there are a bunch of groups that are dissatisfied, bored or suspicious of Trump.

This year WE are the unified and energized ones.

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Why I Think Donald Trump Is Certain to Lose This Election. [View all] MineralMan Sep 2024 OP

He knows he's going to lose, too Quiet Em Sep 2024 #1

At least if he's in prison, his shitehose will become a shitenugget trickle ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #25

Not in prison DownriverDem Sep 2024 #83

'I can see him under house arrest.' speak easy Sep 2024 #92

It'd have to be that. calimary Sep 2024 #170

With visiting rights mirroring prison. speak easy Sep 2024 #171

I'd be worried that that MAGA would make him a martyr speak easy Sep 2024 #172

But BonnieJW Sep 2024 #123

Don't count on it jbandsma Sep 2024 #174

It won't be close enough for SCOTUS to try that. Quiet Em Sep 2024 #175

He is only thinking of revenge and chaos - "Apres moi, le deluge" dalton99a Sep 2024 #2

He did the same thing in 2016 dickthegrouch Sep 2024 #3

And then lost in 2020 as the incumbent! MineralMan Sep 2024 #8

He wasn't running against Kamala Keepthesoulalive Sep 2024 #10

That doesn't give him some kind of superpower Sugarcoated Sep 2024 #38

TRUMP 2016: Technical Winner. Actual Loser. Beartracks Sep 2024 #53

Comey did it in 2016 kiri Sep 2024 #102

And Pecker. Justice matters. Sep 2024 #137

Arguably the biggest fluke election in US history FrankBooth Sep 2024 #57

This! The first time was a fluke & he's been a loser since. CrispyQ Sep 2024 #152

He still had people buying into the image as some self-made billionaire... W_HAMILTON Sep 2024 #64

I know people who voted for him in 2016 C Moon Sep 2024 #108

I'm curious when I see people warn about 2016 outcome. Trueblue Texan Sep 2024 #147

Removed by poster Trueblue Texan Sep 2024 #146

2016 had a brutal primary...not te same. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #169

sadly, this is true... but NewJeffCT Sep 2024 #179

Maybe he'll just fucking die already Orrex Sep 2024 #4

He needs to be humiliated at the polls. Imprisoned. And then he can die all he wants. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2024 #80

Humiliated at the polls, ok. But I'm not holding my breath for his prison time. Orrex Sep 2024 #120

Yes. He's NOT going to jail win or lose in Nov. oldsoftie Sep 2024 #157

will the traitor lie in state? kiri Sep 2024 #109

Fly a Russian flag at half staff. Conjuay Sep 2024 #110

Perhaps he will be...elsewhere not fooled Sep 2024 #124

So hard for him, though... HariSeldon Sep 2024 #125

He would only go to an English-speaking country, that's my thought FakeNoose Sep 2024 #128

My fantasy for his demise is that he be struck by lightning on one of his golf courses. 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #111

Caddyshack! Nt BidenRocks Sep 2024 #121

He's welcome to die by any means other than assassination. ShazzieB Sep 2024 #163

Yes, I believe it's not going to be as close as many think Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2024 #5

I think most "pundits " are wrong, because they are deeply invested in the status quo of the diseased MSM. Magoo48 Sep 2024 #42

I believe this, as well, but every one is still working their asses off ... Trueblue Texan Sep 2024 #44

Yes, this! Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #139

He might not care if he actually loses if he thinks GOP operatives will fix enough elections Ocelot II Sep 2024 #6

I truly don't think that is going to happen, though. MineralMan Sep 2024 #9

All of which failed in 2020. TwilightZone Sep 2024 #16

That is the plan EarthAbides Sep 2024 #26

Neither of those proposals will fly. lees1975 Sep 2024 #134

Wasn't Georgia'salready approved? Iwasthere Sep 2024 #153

not really possible. drray23 Sep 2024 #60

good to know, but state board of election Republicans can refuse to certify MadameButterfly Sep 2024 #129

No it does not go to the house. drray23 Sep 2024 #130

Good news again and you seem to know your stuff but MadameButterfly Sep 2024 #131

Georgia hand count is a diversion kkkkkk Sep 2024 #177

At present they won't be using any software MadameButterfly Sep 2024 #180

"He is out of money, out of opportunities and, frankly, out of his fucking mind." madaboutharry Sep 2024 #7

Alwayshopefull Alwayshopefull Sep 2024 #168

he's tapped into hateful young white male mucifer Sep 2024 #11

Young white males aren't going to swing the election. Elessar Zappa Sep 2024 #40

Taylor Swift's Army of Young Women. MineralMan Sep 2024 #78

Yes. And her original fans are now in their 30's too. I've seen some claim here that her fans are emulatorloo Sep 2024 #127

She sure does! Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #140

Crowd, not crown. rzemanfl Sep 2024 #12

Good catch. Fixed. MineralMan Sep 2024 #14

I am no fan of predictive. rzemanfl Sep 2024 #18

LOL! MineralMan Sep 2024 #21

Tin foil hat: NCDem47 Sep 2024 #13

I heard they are already starting to reinforce multigraincracker Sep 2024 #39

I hope so Iwasthere Sep 2024 #154

Certainly, he SHOULD lose this election and it's looking bad for him. When asked about campaign wiggs Sep 2024 #15

The two or three days before the election will be awful SCantiGOP Sep 2024 #17

I expect some awful days right after the election, too. Ocelot II Sep 2024 #34

I don't think he's out of money. It appears so on the surface, but he no doubt has lots of dark money donors PortTack Sep 2024 #19

Trump is back to his Summer of 2016 mode, Tarc Sep 2024 #20

Could be. However, he is pulling no punches, MineralMan Sep 2024 #24

All the more reason to make sure he's NOT invincible! calimary Sep 2024 #135

He will certainly try to disrupt the election but he failed last time as the incumbent captain queeg Sep 2024 #22

Exactly. He has lost the power of the incumbency. MineralMan Sep 2024 #28

Kamala broke this demented, drug addled, obese 78 yr old man. He thought he was running against Biden & can't pivot. AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2024 #23

Well said. MineralMan Sep 2024 #29

A young, talented, beautiful, smart WOMAN bested him PJMcK Sep 2024 #141

THIS malaise Sep 2024 #27

Every once in a while, I hit it with a one-liner. MineralMan Sep 2024 #31

LOL - way too humble😀 malaise Sep 2024 #41

The only thing I'm happy he is doing is sucking all the money out of the RNC and funds earmarked Tadpole Raisin Sep 2024 #30

Yes. His taking over of the RNC was a master stroke. MineralMan Sep 2024 #33

I'll feel a whole lot better if/when this week's GA Election Commission nonsense gets Sogo Sep 2024 #32

We'll see. It's already unpopular, even in Georgia. MineralMan Sep 2024 #36

Dang 3auld6phart Sep 2024 #35

I would add one thing: division and dischord on the right. D23MIURG23 Sep 2024 #37

Let's wait to count chickens until the day AFTER the elections struggle4progress Sep 2024 #43

Balderdash! Making predictions in election years is a long tradition on DU. MineralMan Sep 2024 #45

Over-confidence prior to close elections is a proven recipe for disaster struggle4progress Sep 2024 #46

Again: "I Think" and "I believe" MineralMan Sep 2024 #49

Rigging means hundreds of votes. Get on board. kiri Sep 2024 #113

I think he's optimistic, not over confident. But I get your point. paleotn Sep 2024 #94

Alright, if you don't mind me asking how old are you? I only knew one guy who used balderdash. captain queeg Sep 2024 #48

LOL! I'm 79 years old. MineralMan Sep 2024 #51

I figured you were older than me - 67. captain queeg Sep 2024 #55

I figure you don't go as far back as flibbertigibbet, which my Gibson Girl gramma used to describe a girlfriend of mine NBachers Sep 2024 #77

I have used that word many, many times MineralMan Sep 2024 #79

Love 'em ALL! calimary Sep 2024 #136

He won in 2016, all the polls said he'd lose. He has a army of brain dead cult members. We should all be at least OverBurn Sep 2024 #47

He was within the margin of error in Michigan Kaleva Sep 2024 #105

He has a legal strategy. returnee Sep 2024 #122

"probably a flight risk" - TBF Sep 2024 #50

I totally agree... WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2024 #52

Trump's odd pitch: 'Our primary focus is not to get out the vote' LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #54

his real goal is to make sure that they don't vote.. ananda Sep 2024 #63

The massive voter suppression efforts SomedayKindaLove Sep 2024 #126

Vigilance RecoveringJournalist Sep 2024 #56

Trump's Ego is Trump's only consideration, and he doesn't even know it. /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #58

I hope you're right! yardwork Sep 2024 #59

We all do. MineralMan Sep 2024 #69

I'm inclined to agree Metaphorical Sep 2024 #61

Good points all noted with one caveat BaronChocula Sep 2024 #62

Most likely this is true 4catsmom Sep 2024 #65

I think it's very possible that he believes that. MineralMan Sep 2024 #71

That's why the GOP will try to cheat and steal the election instead. ZonkerHarris Sep 2024 #66

Yes. However, they failed with that MineralMan Sep 2024 #73

They have perfected thair plan since 2020. Election boards and state legislatures instead of fake electors this time ZonkerHarris Sep 2024 #98

Have they? Are you sure about that? MineralMan Sep 2024 #99

He's obviously counting on the Electoral College dpibel Sep 2024 #67

He still has Stalin on his side, and is a powerful ally DFW Sep 2024 #68

About him disappearing???? Katinfl Sep 2024 #70

Once he knows he will not prevail, fleeing is his best shot. MineralMan Sep 2024 #74

And he will be caught in the act! MyMission Sep 2024 #100

Maybe not. MineralMan Sep 2024 #115

I'm not putting anything beyond the GIC COL Mustard Sep 2024 #72

I don't think so. I think things are shifting too much already. MineralMan Sep 2024 #76

Did you read Heather Cox Richardson's latest piece on the Electoral College? Native Sep 2024 #75

Sounds good but DownriverDem Sep 2024 #81

He could be counting on his corrupt accomplices... Kablooie Sep 2024 #82

Yes. He believes he will lose the votes, but his judges will hand him the election. And, unfortunately, they could. Lonestarblue Sep 2024 #95

"He is out of money, out of opportunities and, frankly, out of his fucking mind." Love it!! Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #84

Could be. MineralMan Sep 2024 #85

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Hi !! Haven't we met before? GP6971 Sep 2024 #87

Perhaps in the library? MineralMan Sep 2024 #89

Probably. They really need to get GP6971 Sep 2024 #90

I don't know. MineralMan Sep 2024 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2024 #161

Uh, no. MineralMan Sep 2024 #162

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We shall see... MineralMan Sep 2024 #166

You do not know my "desires." MineralMan Sep 2024 #88

The combination of the corrupt State Legislatures throwing sand into the election certification process, kairos12 Sep 2024 #91

One disagreement re: his lawyers tishaLA Sep 2024 #96

A devastating look at that monster ailsagirl Sep 2024 #97

He's letting the party and outside groups handle the door knocking, RandySF Sep 2024 #101

I feel pretty good about where we're at. TRHST82 Sep 2024 #103

so I mull this shit over in my mind. barbtries Sep 2024 #104

There's one group he's alienated that will seal the deal. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2024 #106

He may not care Figarosmom Sep 2024 #107

With all the disaster thinking Keepthesoulalive Sep 2024 #112

Sincerely hope you are right Evolve Dammit Sep 2024 #114

I agree wholeheartedly and have been saying this, PCIntern Sep 2024 #116

OR Skittles Sep 2024 #117

I take nothing for granted!!! IzzaNuDay Sep 2024 #118

I agree with you post...I think he will lose. I am nervous about the House and counting the electoral ballots. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #119

A space alien visiting Earth in 2020 might think the election was actually close Shermann Sep 2024 #151

"and, frankly, out of his fucking mind." orangecrush Sep 2024 #132

I'm not doing a victory lap just yet. Patton French Sep 2024 #133

He'll lose the election as he did the last one and I don't even knows what the fuck "complacency" means. betsuni Sep 2024 #138

I'm thinking he really didn't want to "win" in 2016, and was as surprised as anyone that he 4lbs Sep 2024 #142

I'm still concerned about voter suppression and GOP control of swing state governments Martin Eden Sep 2024 #143

Then there's Georgia all but Mr. Mustard 2023 Sep 2024 #144

That story is not finished yet. MineralMan Sep 2024 #148

I wish DownriverDem Sep 2024 #145

Those stories are not yet finished. MineralMan Sep 2024 #149

This election is not about Donald Trump. It's about the American electorate. jaxexpat Sep 2024 #150

Close but no cigar ... GOTV, GOTV, GOTV BlueWavePsych Sep 2024 #155

Hope you are right. sellitman Sep 2024 #156

Certain? No. And the Harris campaign needs to keep running as the underdog. oldsoftie Sep 2024 #158

Great post Wild blueberry Sep 2024 #159

Couldn't agree more whopis01 Sep 2024 #160

Right on! DoBW Sep 2024 #164

Republicans in swing states say they see scant signs of groups door-knocking for Trump LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #167

Wow! Thanks for that info. MineralMan Sep 2024 #173

id feel better if the damned polls would even out with a nice clean edge for kamala samnsara Sep 2024 #176

Went back to find this. I agree she's got a really good chance. underpants Sep 2024 #178