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uncle ray

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73. except that wan't the case 40-50 years ago.
Sun Sep 22, 2024, 11:01 AM
Sep 2024

sure there was "real metal" but it was stamped into some of the ugliest forms ever made, and safety was only beginning to be engineered into cars. Detroit was starting to use lighter gauge metal and more unibody construction, but they hadn't yet figured out effective corrosion prevention or how to engineer crumple zones. what wasn't steel was plastic that deteriorated in a few years. similarly, ease of repair took a nose dive in this era as automakers struggled to get emissions down, glopping on emission control devices that added a mess of vacuum hoses and wires to electronic boxes and carburetors that failed and choked power down to a fraction of what it was just a few years earlier. shade tree mechanics "fixed" faulty emissions devices by illegally ripping everything out, tanking mileage and emissions. engines would be good for 100k miles before being junk due to worn out valve seats because automakers hadn't figured out metallurgy to work with unleaded gas yet. if you didn't wear the engine out by 100k miles, faulty emissions devices would ensure it's be dead from being clogged with carbon, or nuked from an over lean fuel mixture. And we haven't even touched on build quality yet!

once again, Trump is nostalgic for the good ol days that never were.

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I'm sure all would be THRILLED to have the 1974 Ford Pinto and AMC Gremlin back... hlthe2b Sep 2024 #1
Or a Chevy Vega or one of those "Charlie's angels" version of a Ford Mustang. captain queeg Sep 2024 #6
Any modern V8 Camaro would beat that 427. Shermann Sep 2024 #18
I had a '69 blue Camaro convertible with a 327 in it Dave says Sep 2024 #44
That would have been a great car to have. captain queeg Sep 2024 #49
I was rather fond of the Gremlin, owned 3 Maeve Sep 2024 #7
I had a Gremlin too, loved it. Archae Sep 2024 #52
And I guess that leaves Musk's cars out. trump must've forgot Muck's PAC runs his ground game. brush Sep 2024 #16
I had a dream I was driving a Red and White Ford Pinto. BlueKota Sep 2024 #29
I had a 76 Ford Pinto Wagon lpbk2713 Sep 2024 #30
Not a vehichle Ford could brag about BlueKota Sep 2024 #34
Can't wait! BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #57
Or how about a brand new Volare? BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #58
I had a 79 Plymouth Arrow which was another trash car that got 18 mpg kimbutgar Sep 2024 #63
Good grief, I wish Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #2
They just can't let go of that particular lie Freddie Sep 2024 #31
That was the first thing he started on about at the debate. Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #40
The Malaise Era... OhMcNo Sep 2024 #3
Yeah. Remember how you had to trade it off before 50,000 miles and it fell apart? nature-lover Sep 2024 #4
I do not want a 1970s anything! MineralMan Sep 2024 #5
I'll take an all-original 1976 BC Rich Mockingbird. nt Shermann Sep 2024 #20
right ... Lurker Deluxe Sep 2024 #48
You could probably make an even better selection financially speaking Shermann Sep 2024 #69
The era of major market share loss to foreign cars because ours sucked BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #8
My first car was a Toyota for a reason. In all the decades since, GM & Ford have never changed my mind. Hekate Sep 2024 #13
Our last American car was a Chrysler Town & Country wagon from the early 70s BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #21
How many transmissions did you replace in that Town and Country Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #39
Lmao...that was a major part of the torture BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #42
Ford Galaxy? No thank you!! no_hypocrisy Sep 2024 #9
I had one of those MurrayDelph Sep 2024 #47
Old guy longs for the good ole days that never were and yells at clouds. Solly Mack Sep 2024 #10
Nailed it, Solly Mack. Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #43
Am I wrong to want a camera in his much-needed rubber room and air it worldwide? Solly Mack Sep 2024 #45
No seatbelts? No child-safety locks? Emissions so bad you can't see across the street? Hekate Sep 2024 #11
Also, they won't talk to my phone!!!111 nt Shermann Sep 2024 #22
No crumple zones? Aristus Sep 2024 #37
big and loud with 8 track tape player! sign me up! BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2024 #46
Yes, please bring back those halcyon days. Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #12
To wit . . . hatrack Sep 2024 #14
I might exclude that first AMC, from a looks standpoint anyway. Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #17
It's the "opera windows" on the Lincoln that always drove me nuts . . . hatrack Sep 2024 #19
lol...ever sit in the back seat of a car with an opera window? BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #66
So true about the 1970s Quinn Martin detective shows! Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #41
Gimme this ... marble falls Sep 2024 #32
I had one EXACTLY like that Freddie Sep 2024 #33
Ah, leaded gasoline we barely missed you Johonny Sep 2024 #15
Lead poisoning makes people dumb and more likely to vote for Trump. The cycle continues. nt Shermann Sep 2024 #23
This discussion got me thinking, but I feel like the subject I will propose deserves its own thread. captain queeg Sep 2024 #24
You mean with real metal that last 30+ years. Cost 10-15k. Had components that the owner could repair or replace... usaf-vet Sep 2024 #25
Last 30+ years? Yeah, if you kept it in a garage the entire time. Wednesdays Sep 2024 #68
except that wan't the case 40-50 years ago. uncle ray Sep 2024 #73
The auto industry was in the shitter 40 to 50 years ago Klarkashton Sep 2024 #26
He's full of it. At least 30% of the vehicles on the roads around here are 2yrs old or less. Detroit hasn't had it ... marble falls Sep 2024 #27
Cool, we can go back to doing surgeries with sharpened stones, too. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #28
So the price will be about $2000 like in 1972 for a brand new VW bug? fierywoman Sep 2024 #35
No, we're not. One need not be a Marxist to understand the idea of... keep_left Sep 2024 #36
Thank goodness; I've missed chrome. sinkingfeeling Sep 2024 #38
40 Years Ago... ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #50
Is that gonna be WITH or WITHOUT seat belts? 🤦‍♀️ Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Sep 2024 #51
It's hard to fact check the Niagara Falls of All Liars. Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #53
I'd like a new Karmann Ghia or Scirocco ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #54
"gee our old LaSalle ran great" PedroXimenez Sep 2024 #55
1974-1984 The Golden Age of Carburetors bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #56
Cant wait for the Chevy Chevelle to come back Squaredeal Sep 2024 #59
In the 80s Detroit pumped out some real garbage. yourout Sep 2024 #60
Wave those tiny jazz hands, Mr. Say-Whatever-People-Might-Like Blue Owl Sep 2024 #61
Cars that rusted out in 18 months, 60x4 AC, 8 track eating tape players, averaged about 12 MPG, doc03 Sep 2024 #62
Pisswig don't drive ... he meant this dweller Sep 2024 #64
So, gas-guzzling, cheap-ass sh*t, built by people for low wages and almost no union protection. Okay, then. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #65
Hey, I'm all for no more big trucks and big SUV's... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #67
I had an old Corvair that drank more oil than gasoline. Emile Sep 2024 #70
He travels the country telling made up stories Renew Deal Sep 2024 #71
No thank you Rebl2 Sep 2024 #72
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