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Scrivener7

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85. So they have committed a crime, served their time and been released.

Sat Sep 28, 2024, 05:28 PM

Sep 2024

Within a state or locality. Should they not be released after they serve their time?

This article is a hit job. There are millions of immigrants in the US. They commit crimes at lower rates than those born here, but some will commit crimes. What is surprising about that, and why does ICE feel the need to make a report on it in the October before an election?

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NBC: More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide here or abroad are living freely in the U.S., ICE says [View all] WarGamer Sep 2024 OP

ICE is a bunch of MAGA fanboys. I don't believe what they say. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #1

Unfortunately, that will likely be six months into the reign of Emperor Trump... regnaD kciN Sep 2024 #9

Post removed Post removed Sep 2024 #25

Does this really pass the smell test for you? Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #28

They said some are being protected by state and local officials MichMan Sep 2024 #32

So they have committed a crime, served their time and been released. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #85

Not if they have been convicted of a felony, in particular homicide. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #88

If they are convicted criminals, they should be turned over to ICE for deportation MichMan Sep 2024 #89

No one is saying they should. But this article is very carefully worded Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #97

The report was requested 6 months ago and was just released by ICE MichMan Sep 2024 #102

Yes, exactly. So why were these people not a priority? Might it be because Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #105

"We need to do something about all these criminals!!!" ColinC Sep 2024 #2

This sounds nuts. So, they were convicted of murder here, but we let them out? surfered Sep 2024 #3

The ICE Acting Director needs to go before Congress and answer some questions under oath. surfered Sep 2024 #5

this. x100 WarGamer Sep 2024 #15

Um, as the house is run by Maga fascists, that Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #49

Very likely foreign and could also be asylum seekers. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #17

Mayorkas has testified before congress that the border is secure and people are vetted properly before being released. MichMan Sep 2024 #20

I was stuck on the word convicted...of murder and we did not keep them in custody? surfered Sep 2024 #21

If they are convicted of murder in the US, they serve their sentence and are then deported. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #24

Apparently not, or they wouldn't still be here MichMan Sep 2024 #27

You're quoting "crimes". I'm looking specifically at homicide LeftInTX Sep 2024 #57

Doesn't pass the smell test. They're playing semantic games. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #108

Hundreds of thousands of homicide cases are currently unsolved in the U.S. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #4

Couldn't be more than 20% of the overall murderers living in the US ColinC Sep 2024 #6

At least, it also falls under TSF's watch, as well. That needs to be consistently pointed out. mymomwasright Sep 2024 #7

If ICE had all the data, how come no one is doing anything about it? MichMan Sep 2024 #12

What. The. F**k?!!!!!! hedda_foil Sep 2024 #8

Sounds like state and local officials are protecting them MichMan Sep 2024 #13

Migrants convicted of crimes that have been released have not been convicted of murder! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #33

Not if sanctuary cities refuse to notify ICE and just release them MichMan Sep 2024 #36

Do you (or they) have evidence of this? Dave says Sep 2024 #45

"They" would be ICE. A federal agency under Secretary Mayorkis MichMan Sep 2024 #59

I don't "believe" anything, I expect a slant Dave says Sep 2024 #63

The actual report is linked in Post #42 MichMan Sep 2024 #67

The DHS remarks from the link in the OP justifies my suspicion about the ICE hit piece Dave says Sep 2024 #113

This story says convicted of murder. surfered Sep 2024 #37

In some places it does, and then in other places it uses data from "crimes" in general. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #134

Here's the breakdown from ICE soandso Sep 2024 #42

This. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #98

From ICE soandso Sep 2024 #40

Riggggghhht,...Sanctuary cities are letting convicted murderers out after a couple months and giving them "Obama Phones" maxrandb Sep 2024 #60

wait til you find out how many home grown folks are out walking around after homicide convictions WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #14

They would be here legally as US citizens and can't be deported MichMan Sep 2024 #19

okay so is the issue being someone who's committed a homicide or someone who's here "illegally"? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #48

Someone who has both of those are worse than either or Polybius Sep 2024 #52

oh so there's a SCALE, I see. So how does a U.S. citizen who's committed a homicide compare to someone who's WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #53

Under current laws, both. MichMan Sep 2024 #55

The issue is campaign fodder. If you don't think Joe Voter in Milwaukee won't be influenced by this, I've gotta bridge LeftInTX Sep 2024 #61

Post removed Post removed Sep 2024 #86

Oh, fuck off. Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #99

maybe some have already completed their prison sentences? nt wiggs Sep 2024 #10

That's kinda how it works ColinC Sep 2024 #11

How much time does one usually get for killing or raping someone? MichMan Sep 2024 #16

I'd be very cautious about labeling the 16K "rapists"... regnaD kciN Sep 2024 #74

The actual report states "Sexual Assault" as a separate category with 16,000 MichMan Sep 2024 #77

And somehow this is still going to help convince too many people to vote for an adjudicated rapist for president ColinC Sep 2024 #82

Over the last 40 years, some of them still in prison, some labeled by ICE Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #101

FTR, Trump is walking around after being convicted of sexual assualt Deminpenn Sep 2024 #112

They don't jail people in civil cases, do they? MichMan Sep 2024 #115

The bipartisan bill in Congress would have addressed this. Trump blocked it. yardwork Sep 2024 #18

How many NON-immigrants ?? MSM never *finishes* the story ! eppur_se_muova Sep 2024 #22

It's a report from ICE/DHS which has jurisdiction over immigration LeftInTX Sep 2024 #69

A Trump lie. lees1975 Sep 2024 #23

It's a letter from the ICE Director, confirmed by the Senate in 2023... WarGamer Sep 2024 #26

ICE director is a direct report to Secretary Mayorkis MichMan Sep 2024 #30

Not good news for Democrats. The border is Trump's big issue and this plays right into his hands. jalan48 Sep 2024 #29

I heard a story on ABC regarding kacekwl Sep 2024 #70

I think the media just keeps repeating it, especially Fox and other right wing networks, jalan48 Sep 2024 #91

Convicted of homicide here in U.S. and never served any time? Freethinker65 Sep 2024 #31

That's what I'm thinking. And some enter illegally. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #39

Some: convicted, served their term, released. ICE not notified to come get them marybourg Sep 2024 #72

I'm thinking that part applies to lesser crimes. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #73

So, ICE has joined tRumps election committee? nt yaesu Sep 2024 #34

Joined? More like a founding member. RockRaven Sep 2024 #54

Meanwhile, children in schools are being murdered by their classmates MagickMuffin Sep 2024 #35

The Republican October Surprise? Dave says Sep 2024 #38

Most entered before the Biden administration Cattledog Sep 2024 #41

Umm no. WarGamer Sep 2024 #43

The report is misleading according to an immigration expert Nevilledog Sep 2024 #44

tyvm... WarGamer Sep 2024 #51

++++++ thx nt cliffside Sep 2024 #119

This was the giant headline in the New York Post, it will be everywhere, and Trump will mention it like he did dem4decades Sep 2024 #46

Butter emails v2024. WarGamer Sep 2024 #47

Comey 2.0, there's too many fascists in the government, did the Secretary of Homeland Security release this or was dem4decades Sep 2024 #90

Harris should say that people have told her that most came in when Trump was president. dem4decades Sep 2024 #92

I'm sure DHS can produce a breakdown... of facts. WarGamer Sep 2024 #111

VP Harris should say when she is elected that they will be fast tracked for deportation proceedings MichMan Sep 2024 #116

It was so important that the guy wrote a letter Klarkashton Sep 2024 #50

Nope GOP congressman Tony Gonzales, who is running for reelection requested information LeftInTX Sep 2024 #64

How many US citizen sex offenders are there? How many are Repugs? RockRaven Sep 2024 #56

And does that help us win elections? LeftInTX Sep 2024 #65

Of course not. This line of attack is directed at innumerate people RockRaven Sep 2024 #81

Here in the US we kill about 22K folk each year; we shoot about 20K of them. struggle4progress Sep 2024 #58

"Living freely" in jail? Bmoboy Sep 2024 #62

Need to bring ICE Director to the Senate for a Q&A WarGamer Sep 2024 #66

Doesn't smell right. I'm sure Biden Harris et al are working up a factual response. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2024 #68

It states this in the article Andy823 Sep 2024 #71

I read the actual report to Congress which was linked in post #42 MichMan Sep 2024 #76

So you're going to take that as gospel? dpibel Sep 2024 #94

The figures from ICE differentiate between convicted detained and not detained soandso Sep 2024 #96

Would ICE be the brownshirts, the SS, or the Gestapo, in the Nazi America that MAGA hopes for? Iggo Sep 2024 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Sep 2024 #118

Sex offender Trump who tried to overthrow our government Emile Sep 2024 #78

So what should be done about that? ecstatic Sep 2024 #79

Non-detained list includes people IN PRISON Nevilledog Sep 2024 #80

+++++++ always good to look past the headline, thx! nt cliffside Sep 2024 #117

It says they crossed under the Drumph Administration Tribetime Sep 2024 #83

Every administration since Reagan actually. WarGamer Sep 2024 #110

Hmmm Abstractartist Sep 2024 #84

I think it's time ice be absorbed ColinC Sep 2024 #87

Absorbed where ? MichMan Sep 2024 #93

Absorbed into losing their semi autonomous status entirely ColinC Sep 2024 #95

How many came here during GOP rule? RainCaster Sep 2024 #100

Tell ICE to list their names, and country of origin Raven123 Sep 2024 #103

It took 6 months for them to issue this MichMan Sep 2024 #106

If they made the claim they should already have a list Raven123 Sep 2024 #109

The 13,000 immigrants are from a 40 year period. Emile Sep 2024 #104

Lechleitner needs to lose his job LiberalFighter Sep 2024 #107

Newsmax headline and article "ICE: 13,000 Migrants Convicted of Murder Living Freely in US" cliffside Sep 2024 #114

why linking newsmax? WarGamer Sep 2024 #120

Because it's as hinky as this article. They not known for looking for news so much as feeding the sharks. marble falls Sep 2024 #123

Because I googled the headline in your post and that is what matched? cliffside Sep 2024 #124

i literally cut n pasted NBC headline... WarGamer Sep 2024 #125

When I clicked on your link the headline was different on the NBC site ... cliffside Sep 2024 #130

Here's the original WarGamer Sep 2024 #128

See my last post ... cliffside Sep 2024 #131

It appears to me... WarGamer Sep 2024 #132

I wonder, how many much more thousands of native born US citizens convicted or accused of murder are walking around???? marble falls Sep 2024 #121

I'd say lots... WarGamer Sep 2024 #122

So why are we picking on immigrants who tend to be of color ... marble falls Sep 2024 #127

This is about campaign fodder and swing state voters watching, "Explosive reports" on the nightly news LeftInTX Sep 2024 #135

Sounds like ICE is self reporting. Didn't do the job they were tasked with. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #126

I call bullshit. RandySF Sep 2024 #129

Voters in swing states are going to be bombarded with this misleading info Stargleamer Sep 2024 #133

Yeah..... LeftInTX Sep 2024 #136

Posting Trump's talk points are we? tenderfoot Sep 2024 #137

I actually love this thread - bookmark it for use FHRRK Sep 2024 #138

Kick - NT FHRRK Sep 2024 #139