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Wed Oct 2, 2024, 07:03 PM Oct 2024

Let's not forget why Trump was so confident in his efforts to overturn the election results [View all]

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...even as so many of his advisers and lawyers were telling him he had no chance of succeeding.

Absent from Jack Smith's 'immunity' filing to Judge Chutkan is any naming reference to the 147 republican House members who voted to reject the results of the election, just on their partisan will and whim, without any evidence those results weren't valid.

We have no idea if Smith will make any connection in an eventual trial between those congressmen and Trump's efforts to provide them with 'alternate' false slates of electors which were in his favor.

There were a few references to the 'Representatives' and 'Congress' in the filing, but they were mostly in reference to Mike Pence's role in that certification as the Special Counsel argued that the vice-presidential role in those proceedings which might fall under the 'official acts' ruling by the Supreme Court shouldn't be used to exclude his conversations with Trump from evidence used in his prosecution.

...for example:

1) a conspiracy to interfere with the federal government function by which the nation collects and
counts election results, which is set forth in the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act (ECA);

2) a conspiracy to obstruct the official proceeding in which Congress certifies the legitimate results


...and:

"Only if the state-appointed electors have failed to make a choice, i.e., no candidate has such a majority, does the choice fall to the House of Representatives, who, voting by state delegation, “choose immediately, by ballot,” from the three presidential candidates receiving the most electoral votes."


...also, there's this ONE intriguing reference to his co-conspirators in the House:

"In addition, although countless federal, state, and local races also were on the same ballots as the defendant on election day—including those of every sitting member of the House of Representatives, even those on whom the defendant was counting to object at the congressional proceeding—the defendant focused only on his own race, the election for President, and only on allegations favoring him as a candidate in targeted states he had lost."


What we can conclude from the described way 'the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate
plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost," is that he was either disturbingly delusional, or extremely confident that his efforts would be rewarded by a Congress stacked with 147 cultist co-conspirators ready to capitalize on either the chaos or ballots deliberately presented to them as in dispute.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office. With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost—Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin (the “targeted states”). His efforts included lying to state officials in order to induce them to ignore true vote counts; manufacturing fraudulent electoral votes in the targeted states; attempting to enlist Vice President Michael R. Pence, in his role as President of the Senate, to obstruct Congress’s certification of the election by using the defendant’s fraudulent electoral votes; and when all else had failed, on January 6, 2021, directing an angry crowd of supporters to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification. The throughline of these efforts was deceit: the defendant’s and co-conspirators’ knowingly false claims of election fraud."


I'm curious to see where that criminal, traitorous connection is revealed in the rest of the evidence Jack Smith is preserving for an actual trial. The threat (and the criminality) here isn't just one mentally-disturbed loser desperate to hold onto power. It's also the republicans who did their best to aid and abet that treasonous subversion of the will of the people.
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