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75. Lesson 1 from Tim Snyder - steps to avoid Tyranny - "Do not obey in advance"

Sat Oct 26, 2024, 12:23 PM

Oct 2024

Fear is a great motivator. Endorse Kamala but Trump wins?
Avoiding the dilemma creates another dilemma.
Better to piss off everyone else but certainly don't piss off Trump.

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Ted Lieu: The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear. [View all] highplainsdem Oct 2024 OP

K & R........................ Lovie777 Oct 2024 #1

Or pragmatism. 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2024 #2

How is it pragmatic ? Keepthesoulalive Oct 2024 #6

Regardless, WaPo is being practical and not taking any chances. 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2024 #21

The Press edhopper Oct 2024 #28

Bezos and crew are not on our side Keepthesoulalive Oct 2024 #29

He also has a bunch of government contracts and he doesn't want to jeopardize just in case the orange turd kimbutgar Oct 2024 #46

Is running away from a bee just being "practical" or "pragmatic"? unblock Oct 2024 #30

Oh I forgot this - 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2024 #32

Ah well, that is most definitely pragmatic unblock Oct 2024 #36

WHat does this mean? Amaryllis Oct 2024 #64

Old bulletin board symbol for sarcasm. MiHale Oct 2024 #74

Their mission is to speak truth to power... Mr. Mustard 2023 Oct 2024 #67

Cowardice is always the pragmatic answer. TomSlick Oct 2024 #62

You misspelled capitulation. NotHardly Oct 2024 #72

Ours acts like it's OWNED by fascists. Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #3

Exactly. We all know who owns the Washington Post, and the LA Times. kysrsoze Oct 2024 #10

who owns the LA Times? MadameButterfly Oct 2024 #51

Both DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #54

Kick dalton99a Oct 2024 #4

Look no further than the owner. LoisB Oct 2024 #5

Historian Timothy Snyder warned about giving in to wnylib Oct 2024 #7

It's called "anticipatory obedience" YodaMom2 Oct 2024 #12

Yes, that's exactly what it is. And such obedience hands over wnylib Oct 2024 #16

Italians rolled over to Mussolini without a fight. MadameButterfly Oct 2024 #52

Exactly! ReRe Oct 2024 #43

This must be the "Darkness" BaronChocula Oct 2024 #34

Fear Old Okie Oct 2024 #45

Each situation is different. Sometimes it is prudent to wnylib Oct 2024 #65

Here is Dr. Synder's video from today about "Obeying in Advance" erronis Oct 2024 #70

Thanks. I could not play the video but I read the article. wnylib Oct 2024 #71

So true, cowards through and through. Bev54 Oct 2024 #8

...if they still had a woman at the top... TommyT139 Oct 2024 #33

The paper that stood up to Nixon sarisataka Oct 2024 #9

For those of us old enough to remember Nixon, this is a nauseating moment Hekate Oct 2024 #13

Indeed enigmania Oct 2024 #15

Don't forget Helen Thomas and Hearst news BattleRow Oct 2024 #24

A failure to provide *any* endorsement majdrfrtim Oct 2024 #11

Canceled my subscription Random Boomer Oct 2024 #14

It doesn't help that many of our media outlets are now owned by foreign nationals. PeaceWave Oct 2024 #17

Holy crap! No wonder we have media problems. Trust_Reality Oct 2024 #20

Owned by Fox. haele Oct 2024 #38

We've lost our media. The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2024 #76

"Toward" fascism? Trust_Reality Oct 2024 #18

Complicit Cirsium Oct 2024 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 2024 #22

Freedom of the press? Really? BattleRow Oct 2024 #23

Owners just can't come right out and say "We want or fucking tax breaks to stay in place" Klarkashton Oct 2024 #25

The American press has cowered before tfg for a decade. Magoo48 Oct 2024 #26

We're all trapped in the oligarch's mad 'capture the flag' game travelingthrulife Oct 2024 #68

✅ Freethinker65 Oct 2024 #27

"Give me liberty or not. Either way I'm good with it." mobeau69 Oct 2024 #31

I think I'll cancel my Prime subscription Farmer-Rick Oct 2024 #35

Fear or overlord greed? JT45242 Oct 2024 #37

So far as I can see, Musk is heading to a Ketamine OD. haele Oct 2024 #40

I'm hoping for that ketamine overdose sooner rather than later kimbutgar Oct 2024 #48

Very disappointed. Martin68 Oct 2024 #39

They're not 'cowering in fear'. They're PREENING IN MISOGYNY. n/t TygrBright Oct 2024 #41

They are willing to help a new Hitler gain power just to protect their bottom line. hadEnuf Oct 2024 #55

Democracy isn't "dying in darkness", it's being murdered in broad daylight. Initech Oct 2024 #42

Standing up for democracy is not a guarantee that it will hold. That's why we fight daily for it, but usonian Oct 2024 #44

A fellow traveler on Mastodon said that "Democracy Dies in the Darkness" is now WaPo's mission statement. Efilroft Sul Oct 2024 #47

Same thing happened at the LA Times ... aggiesal Oct 2024 #49

Afaic, they just endorsed Trump. miyazaki Oct 2024 #50

Afaic? ReRe Oct 2024 #58

as far as im concerned. miyazaki Oct 2024 #59

Ah ReRe Oct 2024 #60

Agree what is going on in this country? debm55 Oct 2024 #53

Welp.... ReRe Oct 2024 #56

Bezos the Coward. trmp must be grinning. spanone Oct 2024 #57

They aren't cowering in fear from Trump drmeow Oct 2024 #61

Bezos is selling a shit load of Amazon stock. He quit being CEO a while back. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2024 #63

"Cowering in fear" is exactly what I thought when Army officials.... 70sEraVet Oct 2024 #66

The term "free press" will no longer apply if Rump is voted in mdbl Oct 2024 #69

The first problem is the premise that billionaire owned press is in any way "free." Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #73

Lesson 1 from Tim Snyder - steps to avoid Tyranny - "Do not obey in advance" SupportSanity Oct 2024 #75

Remember, Always trust multi-billionaires. SupportSanity Oct 2024 #77

K&R Bayard Oct 2024 #78

Yep uponit7771 Oct 2024 #79