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drmeow

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107. How many white men

Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:13 AM

Oct 2024

said they were willing to vote for Nicki Haley for President?

Harris is a woman of color. Clinton was vilified in the press for 20 years - and don't think that kind of negative propaganda doesn't stick. Both women are Democrats.

This is an overgeneralization of data. There is insufficient data to be able to draw this conclusion.

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The stark reality that most white men refuse to vote for a woman. Any woman. [View all] CousinIT Oct 2024 OP

I agree those stats are ugly... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #1

Melber also said it was the same for Hillary CousinIT Oct 2024 #3

No, you see, the question was whether those men supported Harris or trump... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #6

Most men would not confess that they would not vote for a candidate because she is a woman. Lonestarblue Oct 2024 #31

Based on what data? edisdead Oct 2024 #38

As they did in 2016. soldierant Oct 2024 #75

Look at what they do/did, not what they say they would do spooky3 Oct 2024 #50

There was a twenty four - twenty eight years time difference between Clinton and Biden LiberalFighter Oct 2024 #78

But the point is that several observers are seeing a problem in 2024 spooky3 Oct 2024 #89

But how has it changed or not changed with views of men towards women? LiberalFighter Oct 2024 #98

I've provided answers to this elsewhere in the thread. Nt spooky3 Oct 2024 #99

I wonder if they would vote for their own wife, if she were running. OLDMDDEM Oct 2024 #5

Exactly, the poll asked about 2 candidates, it didn't ask if they would not vote for someone only because they're female Think. Again. Oct 2024 #8

Researchers have long known about the "social desirability effect" spooky3 Oct 2024 #55

Unfortunately, most polls require people to "say" their answer, not "do" it. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #93

This is one reason why Pew's Verified Voter studies spooky3 Oct 2024 #96

Some white men bdamomma Oct 2024 #2

Amen Joinfortmill Oct 2024 #29

And some people will ascribe whatever they believe about most men edisdead Oct 2024 #39

Look at the Pew Validated voter studies for 2016 and 2020 spooky3 Oct 2024 #87

I believe the poster you are responding to said "some," thucythucy Oct 2024 #101

Women haters. Totally disgusting in my opinion. Trueblue1968 Oct 2024 #59

This OLD, WHITE man is voting BLUE. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2024 #4

So is this old Pinkish Gray guy. multigraincracker Oct 2024 #14

Specific woman, not any woman. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #7

Thank you, this OP is mixing things up a bit. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #9

They have held... 2naSalit Oct 2024 #10

As usual women will have to clean up the mess. liberalla Oct 2024 #42

Yup. 2naSalit Oct 2024 #43

Hate to be argumentative, but even as a graduate of a hardcore women's college TM ;) I find the LauraInLA Oct 2024 #48

Virginia Foxx. eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #52

Yes, great example! And it's not only conservative women -- disfunction is not dependent on gender ;(. LauraInLA Oct 2024 #54

I'd rather live in a world... littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #58

We know this Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #11

Women have been elected to state-wide offices in some pretty conservative states. BluesRunTheGame Oct 2024 #12

Probably if Harris was a Republican/MAGA they would vote for her. CousinIT Oct 2024 #21

Those are all conservative women who go along with patriarchy. yardwork Oct 2024 #24

I still can't get my mind around it. CousinIT Oct 2024 #26

Many men just don't want to be ruled over by a woman. Diamond_Dog Oct 2024 #13

There are even women voting for him. multigraincracker Oct 2024 #15

THAT is another WTF for me... CousinIT Oct 2024 #19

Lack of critical thinking. multigraincracker Oct 2024 #33

Internalized misogyny. Nt spooky3 Oct 2024 #57

Yep. And that is a position I believe many white guys still hold. CousinIT Oct 2024 #17

Only 40% of white men voted for President Biden in 2020 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #16

Good info. Thank you. I still have to ask CousinIT Oct 2024 #18

They are afraid of losing their unearned privilege. valleyrogue Oct 2024 #22

I would like to see a breakdown of the locality of white male voters standingtall Oct 2024 #47

But only 33% of them voted for Clinton. spooky3 Oct 2024 #62

Yes. Good point. CousinIT Oct 2024 #71

They think Democrats are throwing away their white male privilege by making them share travelingthrulife Oct 2024 #111

Thank you for posting this. yardwork Oct 2024 #20

That was the overarching argument of the segment: Don't blame the black guys! CousinIT Oct 2024 #25

Heretics are often more derided than nonbelievers. Sympthsical Oct 2024 #30

Or LOTR. yardwork Oct 2024 #85

I think there's a bit of nuance to it Sympthsical Oct 2024 #95

"Nothing is wrong with white men" BaronChocula Oct 2024 #65

YES. CousinIT Oct 2024 #73

What I call the white man's pass BaronChocula Oct 2024 #90

And who raised them? Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #23

The "village" they live in. SunSeeker Oct 2024 #61

Let's assume this poster is not blaming mothers for raising sons who became misogynists. Trust_Reality Oct 2024 #70

Yup, thank God this mom's son & grandson are voting Joinfortmill Oct 2024 #27

I honestly don't understand my gender. JanMichael Oct 2024 #28

Tell you what. Those of you who get it are valued. Please don't think you are not! CousinIT Oct 2024 #72

Thank you but I was kind of joking about not being bro enough JanMichael Oct 2024 #105

It's ok. We're still gonna beat the convict. brush Oct 2024 #32

Honestly, I think they fear a powerful woman liberal N proud Oct 2024 #34

That just looks like noise Tweedy Oct 2024 #35

I laugh remembering the guy earlier this year who said he wouldn't vote for a woman because she doesn't kimbutgar Oct 2024 #36

My wife and I enigmania Oct 2024 #37

More about the echo chamber they live in askyagerz Oct 2024 #40

I live in a rural county, and I have worked murielm99 Oct 2024 #45

I have news for you about how men MotownPgh Oct 2024 #97

Not true at all askyagerz Oct 2024 #106

From watching the Harris Campaign, they're not only worried about white men. surfered Oct 2024 #41

Bullshit orangecrush Oct 2024 #44

As a white man Picaro Oct 2024 #46

Me too. Not sure I am deeply ashamed, but definitely embarrassed and disappointed. Trust_Reality Oct 2024 #77

I'm not sure I believe that. I'm not defending my demographic, which generally sucks politically, but we're not... NNadir Oct 2024 #49

The premise is wrong. Nikki got votes from white men. 3Hotdogs Oct 2024 #51

OP didn't say ALL white men. And we know from Pew Validated Voter spooky3 Oct 2024 #64

Obviously it is too many of us. Trust_Reality Oct 2024 #80

Then we will stop voting for them. onecaliberal Oct 2024 #53

Maybe it's not just who they don't vote for but... littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #56

Racism and misogyny. nt SunSeeker Oct 2024 #60

Kinda a broad brush... MiHale Oct 2024 #63

You're in that 36%. Don't underestimate how much you guys are appreciated! CousinIT Oct 2024 #69

I'm in that 36%. And thank you for saying this! Trust_Reality Oct 2024 #83

Bullshit .... Plenty of white men are pledging their support for Harris. Republican polls are fictitious. live love laugh Oct 2024 #66

Fragility GaYellowDawg Oct 2024 #67

It's simple Beck23 Oct 2024 #68

I keep reading things like this-but appleannie1 Oct 2024 #74

GREAT! I'm glad to hear that! CousinIT Oct 2024 #82

A Further Split Between DallasNE Oct 2024 #76

This white man voted for her. Charlie Chapulin Oct 2024 #79

THANK YOU! CousinIT Oct 2024 #81

Are there any numbers for white women ? OnDoutside Oct 2024 #84

Well I'm a white male who will be 66 in a few weeks. So I'm on the younger end of the Baby Boom. PatrickforB Oct 2024 #86

Misogynistic voting patterns have nothing to do with being a baby boomer. valleyrogue Oct 2024 #104

No doubt many white men have a problem with women leaders, but I think many have a bigger problem with Democrats RidinWithHarris Oct 2024 #88

Putting this into perspective Metaphorical Oct 2024 #91

False premise CNYHarris Oct 2024 #92

The ugly truth is that moniss Oct 2024 #94

I saw that in my own family. n/t CousinIT Oct 2024 #109

Misogyny is alive and well alarimer Oct 2024 #100

...and what role does religion play? RussBLib Oct 2024 #102

Men interpret the Bible as saying women are to be obedient, and are the cause of all strife CousinIT Oct 2024 #108

I'm a white man PJMcK Oct 2024 #103

How many white men drmeow Oct 2024 #107

This is just silly forthemiddle Oct 2024 #110

You could be right. CousinIT Oct 2024 #112