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Sparkly

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100. I agree there is a danger, because all of the other institutional boundaries have failed.

Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:19 PM

Oct 2024

On the "He couldn't do anything" side, we have the WH and the Senate as barriers.

On the "He could still be a bull in the china shop" side, he has the filibuster-proof 60 in the Senate, the majority in the House, and the (not-impartial) Judiciary. (And of course, he has his foreign - ahem - "investors" pulling strings and playing mind games on weak Americans.)

If it came down to a tie, I believe the House would vote him in.

If Harris wins, I don't think he'll be able to rally the same kind of protest he did before, and I do think law enforcement will be prepared. His game then will be about a) avoiding his lawsuits and b) capitalizing in any way possible from his loss.

(It could even involve leaving for a trip overseas and claiming a difficult time getting back! "Help! Biden/Harris have captured me! Send money! It'd be a shame if I couldn't get back in time for my trials!!)

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I think Biden may need a "back-up" plan...? [View all] kentuck Oct 2024 OP

Insurrectionists should be met with overwhelming force - without delay or hesitation dalton99a Oct 2024 #1

I agree, I hope this time the doj is paying attention. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #66

Ha chicoescuela Oct 2024 #77

I agree! Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #75

My bet is that Biden has plans in place. This White House is staffed with professional, competent people. Midnight Writer Oct 2024 #2

No kidding. They probably had a plan since Feb 2020 LakeArenal Oct 2024 #30

This time if there is a violent attack on our nations capitol, it will be shoot first, ask questions later. Trueblue1968 Oct 2024 #37

I would doubt that there would be any violence in our nations Capitol... kentuck Oct 2024 #43

Then it's already divided to conquer. LakeArenal Oct 2024 #44

I don't think those Gravy Seals et al come anywhere comradebillyboy Oct 2024 #61

The Proud Boys and others did a lot of damage on January 6th... kentuck Oct 2024 #64

And the PB leaders are all in jail serving long sentences. comradebillyboy Oct 2024 #65

The ones who were leaders at that time are, yes. Do we even know who the new leaders are? Think. Again. Oct 2024 #67

This can't be overemphasized DFW Oct 2024 #90

Well said, DFW! kentuck Oct 2024 #94

Those militias are composed of former military like yourself wnylib Oct 2024 #117

Look to the Irish Troubles IMO NickB79 Oct 2024 #110

No. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #3

You are correct. For example, officials have been rigorously & publicly preparing for J6 2025. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #24

I expect they do. Neither Biden or Harris would ignore this. travelingthrulife Oct 2024 #4

Do you seriously think he doesn't? niyad Oct 2024 #5

I'm not sure. kentuck Oct 2024 #11

Could you please explain your uncertainty to me, because I truly do NOT niyad Oct 2024 #33

I do not have the confidence that you seem to have... kentuck Oct 2024 #39

I see that you switched from Biden to citizens as your explanation for your niyad Oct 2024 #45

I would include Biden with the majority of "citizens". kentuck Oct 2024 #47

Wow. Lumping President Biden in with the average citizen does NOT niyad Oct 2024 #56

Why is that concerning? kentuck Oct 2024 #68

Biden is not even remotely an average citizen. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #84

What a dumb thing to get worked up about. Disaffected Oct 2024 #71

Nobody said that the OP is obligated to, but you will notice that the OP is niyad Oct 2024 #107

"implying", "very nearly stating"?? Disaffected Oct 2024 #111

Can we stop this thread? Metaphorical Oct 2024 #115

I have no doubt that he has one. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #6

Congrats on your milestone recently. LakeArenal Oct 2024 #31

Thanks! Ocelot II Oct 2024 #55

Happy 21st DUnniversary. And only 82 posts til your 120,000 post milestone! niyad Oct 2024 #35

Thanks! I don't think I can come up with 82 posts by tonight, though! Ocelot II Oct 2024 #52

You are most welcome. Okay, by the end of the week? niyad Oct 2024 #57

I'll see what I can do. I can probably find plenty of cat memes. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #60

Excellent!!! Goddess knows, we can never have too many cat memes!!! niyad Oct 2024 #62

I expect they have been prepping for a while misanthrope Oct 2024 #7

Right. H2O Man Oct 2024 #28

I'm sure there already is a plan in place. Dennis Donovan Oct 2024 #8

I am Rebl2 Oct 2024 #93

Do.you really think Biden and his people haven't thought about this? Srkdqltr Oct 2024 #9

Contingency plans are already in place: Fiendish Thingy Oct 2024 #10

I would be surprised if there was no violence. kentuck Oct 2024 #18

Well, only one side has an Air Force, Navy, and nukes. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2024 #72

The military can not be used against American citizens. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #74

They can be used to put down an insurrection Fiendish Thingy Oct 2024 #81

The National Guard is the 'militia', not the 'military'. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #88

Tell that to all the NG units that went to Iraq and Afghanistan. Fiendish Thingy Oct 2024 #89

The examples you listed used the Guard, not any of the 5 branches of the military... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #91

No militia served in Iraq Fiendish Thingy Oct 2024 #101

What is now called the National Guard started as State Militia. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #102

JFC, Google is your friend: Fiendish Thingy Oct 2024 #104

Yes, as I mentioned earlier, the NG can be federalized to become part of the military.... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #106

This all started when you said the military can't be used against US citizens Fiendish Thingy Oct 2024 #108

I didn't know about the insurrection act, but the NG can be used when it is NOT part of the military. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #112

The "fix was in" on January 6th. At EVERY level of government. And they still failed. usonian Oct 2024 #12

They weren't prepared and didn't have enough resources onsite to process 2,000+ people TwilightZone Oct 2024 #19

Garland. ... nt Hotler Oct 2024 #13

Garland won't be involved. Garland doesn't control comradebillyboy Oct 2024 #63

I agree that garland would again refuse to be involved. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #76

Post removed Post removed Oct 2024 #14

I am pretty sure Biden, Harris and all those Bev54 Oct 2024 #15

Ironically, thanks to trump's SCOTUS 6, Joe Biden will have all that he needs for his 'official acts' as he'll still be. brush Oct 2024 #16

Official acts are immune. bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #17

Arrest him immediately Cartoonist Oct 2024 #20

So we should be the party that represses political speech? Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #32

Inciting violence should never be regarded as political speech TeslaNova Oct 2024 #42

A declaration that he won is no more inciting violence Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #50

It is his right to refuse to concede Metaphorical Oct 2024 #70

It is also his right to declare he won. Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #97

Yes, my point exactly Metaphorical Oct 2024 #116

A lie intended to signal others to commit violence can be a simple as saying "I won". Think. Again. Oct 2024 #73

Legally, no. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #95

Well, I doubt he'll spell it out in legal terms for anybody. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #96

If all he does is declare he won, Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #98

He's very good at using his dogwhistles. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #99

These certainly are not ordinary times... kentuck Oct 2024 #21

Once again, WHY are you so convinced that THIS administration is NOT niyad Oct 2024 #46

Why would you assume that they are prepared? kentuck Oct 2024 #51

You must not have been paying attention to Mark Elias and his legions of lawyers, Ocelot II Oct 2024 #59

Oh this is harsh. Hope22 Oct 2024 #85

I assume that the Biden et al have been planning on it. spanone Oct 2024 #22

I would imagine they are going to be well prepared for this. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2024 #23

I wouldn't expect President Biden to share any plans with the world. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2024 #25

He should have a plan for if Trump either wins or loses. totodeinhere Oct 2024 #26

Yes, those tools are in 14A and were used during Reconstruction by Pres. Grant bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #54

"If he wins" soandso Oct 2024 #92

I think it's governors in swing states who are already planning for Trump chaos Lonestarblue Oct 2024 #27

Yes, republican Governors are my concern right now, too. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #78

Establish a Perimeter MrWowWow Oct 2024 #29

On what basis? Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #34

It can be eerily similar. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #38

"official act" it would take years to sort out, in the meantime Klarkashton Oct 2024 #40

Whoosh. Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #48

Unlawful official acts ... It's a dilemma. Klarkashton Oct 2024 #79

Trump is going to declare victory around 9pm Eastern on election day RedSpartan Oct 2024 #36

+1. And his minions at the state level will spring into action dalton99a Oct 2024 #41

The Trump camp will aim for bedlam misanthrope Oct 2024 #49

I think you may be right? kentuck Oct 2024 #53

Essentially, he is an agent of chaos misanthrope Oct 2024 #58

It's there Abstractartist Oct 2024 #69

Biden remains president until the winner of the 2024 election is properly installed Rocknation Oct 2024 #80

That is an interesting thought... kentuck Oct 2024 #82

That's not how it works. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #83

Assuming everyone plays by the rules... kentuck Oct 2024 #87

The poster was talking about Biden and Harris, not Trump. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #103

Win or lose, we are about to discover where the loyalties of our law enforcement, judicial officials and military lie. Runningdawg Oct 2024 #86

In the Russian Revolution, the Kerensky government fell when bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #113

I agree there is a danger, because all of the other institutional boundaries have failed. Sparkly Oct 2024 #100

I think he's already DemonGoddess Oct 2024 #105

Supreme court WmChris Oct 2024 #109

If President Biden determines that national guard units must be activated, Jack Valentino Oct 2024 #114