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Ocelot II

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6. This is up to local law enforcement, not DoJ.

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 03:48 PM

Oct 2024

The management of state elections is delegated to the states. Seems to me that all ballot drop boxes should be in places where there are security cameras, at a minimum.

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If Garland won't secure the ballot boxes Biden MUST! The burnings are escalating [View all] Iwasthere Oct 2024 OP

I hate to say this, but I think he needs to fire Garland SouthernCal_Dem Oct 2024 #1

And what would she have done to prevent these fires? TwilightZone Oct 2024 #5

Law enforcement is about more than just enforcement SouthernCal_Dem Oct 2024 #7

Oh, please. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #12

Are there not any security cameras on these ballot Meadowoak Oct 2024 #34

What about mailboxes? TwilightZone Oct 2024 #100

Remember the pugs where the ones that wanted cameras thatdemguy Oct 2024 #129

ballot box near ,my home is secure, tamper proof and with cameras. msfiddlestix Oct 2024 #162

Absolutely Meadowoak Oct 2024 #37

Police do not deter crimes. edisdead Oct 2024 #55

Prosecution Cirsium Oct 2024 #94

they think our system is weak rampartd Oct 2024 #154

That is absurd Cirsium Oct 2024 #22

In election matters, that's up to state and local officials. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #35

Where all does that apply? Cirsium Oct 2024 #65

This is happening in blue states too. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #67

Right Cirsium Oct 2024 #74

Hell, Gilligan is more capable. orthoclad Oct 2024 #13

Yes, fire his sorry ass. Meadowoak Oct 2024 #28

With three months to go? LiberalFighter Oct 2024 #56

You're probably right. Not a good look to do it now. SouthernCal_Dem Oct 2024 #61

Those fuckers. Empty those things out now, and every hour from now to election day. Scrivener7 Oct 2024 #2

States control the boxes BidenRocks Oct 2024 #33

Biden doesn't have any new powers. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #3

I expect both Bidend and Garland to protect our Fuck!ng vote, that's what Iwasthere Oct 2024 #10

We shouldn't use Trump's behavior as the basis for our own. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #19

It is our very precious vote that's at stake, Jesus! protect it Iwasthere Oct 2024 #31

OK, but how? Lulu KC Oct 2024 #78

Logistical plan??? Cirsium Oct 2024 #91

No movement Lulu KC Oct 2024 #108

Or you could help with a plan Iwasthere Oct 2024 #115

I know my strengths and this isn't one of them Lulu KC Oct 2024 #141

I'm sorry, these recent events are in my backyard Iwasthere Oct 2024 #51

Amen Cirsium Oct 2024 #146

I'm glad we humor you Ilikepurple Oct 2024 #161

You have to be kidding Cirsium Oct 2024 #23

Do you NOT understand the 10th Amendment??? Dock_Yard Oct 2024 #113

Okay so we'll just accept the burnings then Iwasthere Oct 2024 #120

I didn't go there. You digressed into exaggeration and tangents. Dock_Yard Oct 2024 #125

OK Cirsium Oct 2024 #150

I would have a half dozen security cameras covering each and Meadowoak Oct 2024 #48

Thats what the repugs wanted before thatdemguy Oct 2024 #132

Yes, I'm afraid this is only going to get worse and more widespread as we get closer to the election Farmgirl1961 Oct 2024 #4

This is up to local law enforcement, not DoJ. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #6

Up to the states? Cirsium Oct 2024 #26

Elections are regulated and administered by the states. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #32

Equal protection under the law Cirsium Oct 2024 #49

Well then every single criminal case should be federal LeftInTX Oct 2024 #60

Pretty sure you don't understand the equal protection clause and how and when it is applied. onenote Oct 2024 #76

That is silly Cirsium Oct 2024 #88

I'd love to hear your explanation of how the equal protection clause is violated by the destruction of a ballot box? onenote Oct 2024 #96

No Cirsium Oct 2024 #151

No? You've repeatedly cited the equal protection clause as the basis for federal intervention. onenote Oct 2024 #167

I don't disagree but the federal government has limited power Ocelot II Oct 2024 #39

Safeguarding the rights of the citizens Cirsium Oct 2024 #53

So write to DoJ and tell them to get their asses to Portland to guard ballot dropboxes. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #87

Sure Cirsium Oct 2024 #89

It's not a matter of opposition at all. It's just that your understanding of the extent Ocelot II Oct 2024 #95

Me too Iwasthere Oct 2024 #123

Nobody's opposing anything Lulu KC Oct 2024 #142

This thread! I think he should charter a jet to DC LeftInTX Oct 2024 #93

Please cite the specific statutory authority that gives DoJ the power Ocelot II Oct 2024 #92

Maybe Cirsium Oct 2024 #153

The National Guard is under the control of state governors. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #155

Yes, of course Cirsium Oct 2024 #156

No one could stop state gerrymandering. LakeArenal Oct 2024 #90

Yes, it's up to the states. They, and only they, have the number of personnel necessary muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #98

So let's all just throw up our arms Iwasthere Oct 2024 #124

There's plenty you can do. You can demand your state guards ballot boxes muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #127

IT IS GETTING DONE by local L/E - see link Dock_Yard Oct 2024 #131

Oh great Cirsium Oct 2024 #157

It is an argument that the crowd here doesn't want to hear Bev54 Oct 2024 #52

Nah..He's responsible for roller rinks. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #69

New powers? sarisataka Oct 2024 #8

Post removed Post removed Oct 2024 #17

That would be an option sarisataka Oct 2024 #21

The boxes should be indoors, collected every day, have observers present, & bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #24

Indoor boxes do make sense, but isn't that decision up to local election officials? sarisataka Oct 2024 #27

I didn't mention Biden, you did. bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #45

I mentioned Biden because the OP did sarisataka Oct 2024 #50

When GOP officials tried to do that, we rightfully called it voter suppression. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2024 #38

But we need the feds and BOP! LeftInTX Oct 2024 #75

Shooting on sight? Eko Oct 2024 #42

It's sometimes an option in riots and looting. Not often used in the US. bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #47

I dont care if it is sometimes an option Eko Oct 2024 #57

Biden now has immunity from prosecution for any.... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #18

Since it is the OP calling for use of these "powers" sarisataka Oct 2024 #20

You seemed to be genuinely perplexed... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #112

I would have been perplexed in Biden had superpowers sarisataka Oct 2024 #114

Yes, he's the only person on the planet not accountable to any U.S. law... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #121

Well if he isn't accountable we have nothing to fear sarisataka Oct 2024 #126

No, it isn't, he is immune to prosecution from breaking laws... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #134

Overturning the election would "faithfully execute the office of President." sarisataka Oct 2024 #138

Yes, but simply claiming candidates are disqualified doesn't break any written laws... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #140

Why are you saying that? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2024 #173

I have been trying to point out how dangerous this ruling is since it came down... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #174

Yes Cirsium Oct 2024 #30

How? sarisataka Oct 2024 #40

There are often state/federal conflicts Cirsium Oct 2024 #159

garland can't be embarrassed... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #9

Elections are the responsibility of state and local officials. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #25

Equal protection Cirsium Oct 2024 #36

Nope. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #46

Yep Cirsium Oct 2024 #70

You clearly have no idea what equal protection is or what it applies to. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #103

Thanks Cirsium Oct 2024 #170

The deterence and prosecution of federal crimes such as election interference... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #117

Surprised me Cirsium Oct 2024 #158

Deprivation of civil rights is federal business Mysterian Oct 2024 #165

Here in PA our boxes are inside buildings bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #11

insane! Hopefully there's an immediate response and plan ecstatic Oct 2024 #14

Elections are run by local governments, not the federal government. MineralMan Oct 2024 #15

"Should so choose" Cirsium Oct 2024 #41

We should all think outside the box on this Iwasthere Oct 2024 #63

The purpose of DU is to hound and mob Garland LeftInTX Oct 2024 #66

What do you think should be done? TwilightZone Oct 2024 #107

Not all boxes aren't secure Iwasthere Oct 2024 #128

Biden's failure to act, re: Garland, endangers us all orthoclad Oct 2024 #16

Has Garland even released a statement? senseandsensibility Oct 2024 #29

What do people think Garland or Biden could do about state controlled ballot boxes????????????????? nt LAS14 Oct 2024 #43

Federal agents at every ballot box 24/7 in the country? LeftInTX Oct 2024 #44

Put the dang things inside the police station lobby Meadowoak Oct 2024 #62

Or have local cops guard them? LeftInTX Oct 2024 #64

That could probably be construed as voter intimidation. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #72

Kind of burdensome/cumbersome, eh? elleng Oct 2024 #81

Local surveillance will suffice LeftInTX Oct 2024 #83

For everyone here to get a clear picture of what federal and state LE are doing about this. Eko Oct 2024 #54

The vote is a contract with the people for a peaceful society. LuvLoogie Oct 2024 #58

The vote is being sabotaged now. kentuck Oct 2024 #59

It looks like it's every man/woman for themselves folks. Good luck! jalan48 Oct 2024 #68

Are Trump/Vance condemning it? keithbvadu2 Oct 2024 #71

Merrick Garland might as well just go clutch Susan Collin's pearls Blue Owl Oct 2024 #73

Defending Garland Cirsium Oct 2024 #77

Still waiting on the action you want to see sarisataka Oct 2024 #80

The wait is over Cirsium Oct 2024 #102

I suppose he could do a news conference sarisataka Oct 2024 #110

If it was plasteted on every outlet of a $250,000 fine and a potentional 10 year jail stint Iwasthere Oct 2024 #136

Is that the current law for election interference? sarisataka Oct 2024 #139

Good point Cirsium Oct 2024 #169

No one is defending Garland. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #85

Not what I see Cirsium Oct 2024 #171

Exactly Iwasthere Oct 2024 #130

Oh, yeah, that'll stop them Lulu KC Oct 2024 #143

I will never understand the Garland defenders. Sky Jewels Oct 2024 #163

'Nice' talk, that the President should 'embarass' the Attorrney General, elleng Oct 2024 #79

The best solution to dumpster fires is to stop putting your ballots in them. Hope22 Oct 2024 #82

I live in a all mail state and Tree Lady Oct 2024 #148

That's good. Hope22 Oct 2024 #164

Uh, LBJ - Selma 3825-87867 Oct 2024 #84

What about USPS mail boxes which are used for mail-in ballots? onenote Oct 2024 #86

Had the same thought. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #97

Only put Rebl2 Oct 2024 #99

Hey I have a rickety mailbox on front of my house LeftInTX Oct 2024 #101

And a mail carrier was caught dumping mail Lulu KC Oct 2024 #144

Should we have stop lights at every intersection? Ilikepurple Oct 2024 #160

They are saying the FBI is investigating now mucifer Oct 2024 #104

Wow we can trust that Tree Lady Oct 2024 #149

Rememeber when we called it "election interference" when some states enacted laws that ballot boxes had to be Silent Type Oct 2024 #105

Nah, it still doesn't make sense. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #116

Ballot boxes are more secure than blue mail boxes. I think this kind of terrorism will get worse, so ballot boxes Silent Type Oct 2024 #119

Oregon is a 100% mail-in state. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #135

I live in Oregon turned my ballot Tree Lady Oct 2024 #147

I sure as hell won't defend Garland. It shouldn't take Emile Oct 2024 #106

That has nothing to do with the OP. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #111

The attack on the election system is proof they know they are losing. PurgedVoter Oct 2024 #109

Well to be sure, if The Orange Menace prevails, it'll be taken care of. miyazaki Oct 2024 #118

With this issue? With few days left. Prairie_Seagull Oct 2024 #122

And there IS!!! Dock_Yard Oct 2024 #133

Action is being taken. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #137

IMO the Governors in each state should develop a plan to guard the ballot boxes... there are several ways this could be Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 2024 #145

The one in Portland was monitored. Only 3 ballots LeftInTX Oct 2024 #172

In the future maybe deposit boxes need WiFi enabled scanners. CoopersDad Oct 2024 #152

Garland leads an army of lawyers, not an army of soldiers.... Jack Valentino Oct 2024 #166

There are a limited number of magats that could be expected to do these things... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #175

Call him the WH and demand he secure the election JCMach1 Oct 2024 #168