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Metaphorical

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11. I think Iowa will be the bellwether state
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 05:19 PM
Nov 2024

Iowa and Ohio have tended to mirror one another politically for a while now. If either Iowa or Ohio go blue (and I think Iowa probably will, while it will be closer in Ohio) then the blue wall has held. My other reference indicator is North Carolina. If both Ohio and Iowa go blue, it'll be a blowout.

In my opinion, both Florida and Texas are so ratf*ked as to be unattainable. If Florida goes Blue, Trump's going to be hard-pressed to hit 200 EVs, because if FL goes, so will GA and TN, and possibly IN. I think that TX refusal to allow Federal pollwatchers is evidence that Greg Abbott is nervous enough that they plan to cheat any way possible. Personally, I think the feds should fly in watchers in black suits and sunglasses in black helicopters, if nothing else than to freak Abbott out, but that would probably not be astute politically.

I think in the West that NV and CO will probably go to Kamala, not as sure about AZ.

Here's what I think we'll end up with:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2024-Electoral-Interactive-Map?mapId=MjAyMDA0MTAyNjEwMTczMDY2ODQ3ODI0OTIw7UuSHFmWbUGSbUFRZFuSbVeKZcW1Kg

and here's what I think a blowout would look like (if Trump has a truly bad night)
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2024-Electoral-Interactive-Map?mapId=MjAyMDA0MTAyNjEwMTczMDY2ODY0MzIxOTkwLUuSJFmSbEmSbUGSZFmSLVuSZUm2Kg

As to time, I don't think we'll know conclusively until Thursday, but I don't see it dragging out much past that. Again, NC or IA will be the kicker. If we're losing Pennsylvania by Tuesday at midnight, we've lost.

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A few here underpants Nov 2024 #1
If you see florida called, pop the champagne... getagrip_already Nov 2024 #2
why does Florida's vote indicate what happens elsewhere? CTyankee Nov 2024 #5
Basically, if we win FL, it means something Grown2Hate Nov 2024 #6
Because if we get florida's 30 electoral college votes, we cant lose getagrip_already Nov 2024 #8
FL has for 20y been "reliably red" and it has a huge electoral vote count Dock_Yard Nov 2024 #9
I want FL to flip not because we need it necessarily, but I want to see TFG go absolutely... SKKY Nov 2024 #18
When they call FL for her. CrispyQ Nov 2024 #3
Before the West coast polls even close Brother Buzz Nov 2024 #4
My answer is NC. They count QUICKLY Grown2Hate Nov 2024 #7
Yep if we see NC flip its over askyagerz Nov 2024 #12
Robinson may drive the women's vote for Kamala. lindysalsagal Nov 2024 #21
That is my first clue sky_masterson Nov 2024 #14
Download the 2020 results Funtatlaguy Nov 2024 #10
I think Iowa will be the bellwether state Metaphorical Nov 2024 #11
Networks probably won't call it Tuesday night Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #13
VA closes early dsc Nov 2024 #15
I don't know that Virginia is a good barometer. W_HAMILTON Nov 2024 #19
If they call early it will be because he does worse in his part of VA dsc Nov 2024 #20
By 9:00 pm, EST. First results coming in, all Harris/Walz ahead. mucholderthandirt Nov 2024 #16
When the media declares it. That will be my clue Kaleva Nov 2024 #17
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