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In reply to the discussion: Stop "win-washing" [View all]

Metaphorical

(2,672 posts)
13. I voted, and have been encouraging others to vote
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 06:47 PM
Nov 2024

In 2016, I had a bad feeling on the Monday before the election - I didn't think that Clinton was going to win it. There was a lot of arrogance at work on the Dem side, Clinton's campaign was too divisive, too many people were still bitter about Sanders, and it seemed like every week there was just one more thing coming out of right field that likely , yet I also had a strong feeling that Trump was doing a lot better than the polls indicated.

2024, on the other hand, was getting worrisome through July, then Biden withdrew in favor of Kamala. She has, since then, waged one of the most flawless campaigns I've seen in forty years. She's built coalitions, she has avoided any scandal, she has defined her opponent far more than Trump was able to define her, she has even managed to make the media sit up and beg, despite the deck being very much stacked against her, and she has done it with a laugh and a smile. Trump, on the other hand, has gone from one dumpster fire to another, quite literally in one case, has watched as his crowds have dwindled so that he can't even fit small venues, and has outstayed his welcome.

If she loses after all that, it's because the system has become so compromised that no one could fairly win against Trump, yet, what I'm seeing is that Trump's campaign staff is already shopping their resumes. This is not the sign of a campaign that thinks it's going to win, or even get within challenging distance.

Now, it's possible that the polls are perfectly correct, that the race is incredibly tight, and Trump could pull off an EC upset, but neither the evidence nor the vibes mesh up with this particular scenario. I don't believe it's going to be a blowout, but nor do I think there will be any doubt that she won, except in Trump's Aderall-ravaged mind.


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Stop "win-washing" [View all] GenThePerservering Nov 2024 OP
Thank you!!!! redstatebluegirl Nov 2024 #1
Always so damn appreciate someone to call out hopefuls and positive and let them know LizBeth Nov 2024 #2
What would be do without them? birdographer Nov 2024 #14
Right? That is all I am thinking. LizBeth Nov 2024 #30
I am no appreciate fractured English bikes and bunnies Nov 2024 #25
And here is another, lmfao... nah, just scroll on by. LizBeth Nov 2024 #31
Nah, me English OK bikes and bunnies Nov 2024 #38
wow LizBeth Nov 2024 #40
Grammar nazis? littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #44
Baloney bikes and bunnies Nov 2024 #48
... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #49
Actually, I told you I did not care, and that wasn't good enough for you, remember? Lol. LizBeth Nov 2024 #52
Lol... right? LizBeth Nov 2024 #50
Absolutely, right. Most of us here are actually adults. littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #60
wtf? This post doesn't belong on DU. DISGUSTING MerryBlooms Nov 2024 #59
Chill, not everyone has your command of the language or has fatter fingers on their iPhone 😂 MLAA Nov 2024 #46
Wow, way to go full on non acceptable esl! Well done! 😖😖😖 MerryBlooms Nov 2024 #55
You seem to be the only one who had a hard time understanding it kcr Nov 2024 #69
Fuggin lmao. I read and reread and I understood. I mean I could add some words or punctuation LizBeth Nov 2024 #70
Complacency led to the first Trump regime, and many who tried to warn others were shouted down. Hellbound Hellhound Nov 2024 #63
MANY things contributed to. And at the very least I acknowledge instead of pretending LizBeth Nov 2024 #66
I get it, but then again... getagrip_already Nov 2024 #3
This is what I am thinking, maybe poster ought to address Harris! LizBeth Nov 2024 #4
Harris doesn't need "addressing" GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #6
I think most in this forum doesn't NEED addressing either, hence my post. LizBeth Nov 2024 #8
Momentum is on our side GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #5
In 2008, I was at the local Dem headquarters wnylib Nov 2024 #29
I love this! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #47
In my competitive running days, winning a few races... sir pball Nov 2024 #57
Funny...I see a lot more "doom-washing" here... regnaD kciN Nov 2024 #7
Right but there always has to be someone to get us all in line like we are not already there. LizBeth Nov 2024 #10
No kidding! MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2024 #67
Agree DeepWinter Nov 2024 #9
Ok.... whatever you say birdographer Nov 2024 #15
It's not 2016 though. BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #22
It's not. Hundreds of thousands of his previous supporters are dead from covid. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #51
Just keeping going GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #11
From "Finding Nemo" COL Mustard Nov 2024 #34
I agree & call me superstitious But Cha Nov 2024 #12
I voted, and have been encouraging others to vote Metaphorical Nov 2024 #13
Well-argued, well-stated. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 2024 #19
I think the garbage truck thing COL Mustard Nov 2024 #36
My thoughts exactly orangecrush Nov 2024 #16
This post convinces me that it's past time to stop washing-washing Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #17
Claiming it's over is insane iemanja Nov 2024 #18
Claiming it's over. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 2024 #26
That's not the same as claiming it's over iemanja Nov 2024 #27
If that's not the same as claiming that it's over then no one has ever claimed that it's over. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 2024 #41
I do iemanja Nov 2024 #42
This... is my point too. We just do not do that one DU. OK, we won, lets all stop and go home. LizBeth Nov 2024 #54
We can't control that Cirsium Nov 2024 #20
We stop working GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #62
I have more faith in the community here, have been here a long time. Pretty damn sure not a soul on Du LizBeth Nov 2024 #72
Maybe Cirsium Nov 2024 #74
Yeah because over confidence has been a real problem here the last few months on Doom Underground BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #21
This... actually made me lol. lol LizBeth Nov 2024 #33
Thank you wendyb-NC Nov 2024 #23
It's looking good but it ain't over until it's over. TomSlick Nov 2024 #24
to the finish line proud patriot Nov 2024 #28
I'm glad she's not referring to the underdog status. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2024 #32
K&R Spiking the ball on the 2 yard line will only complicate Harris's mandate. ffr Nov 2024 #35
it's all just heightening everyone's anxiety liberal N proud Nov 2024 #37
And trashed LW1977 Nov 2024 #39
Why the performative announcement of trashing iemanja Nov 2024 #43
Now head for the hills when the landslide comes. GreenWave Nov 2024 #45
"It's over Johnny!" Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2024 #53
By all means make some calls if you are so inclined! I did it earlier today LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #56
This may be another site for calls. Got three friends I know of making calls today and tomorrow if they are calling LizBeth Nov 2024 #58
Sorry I forgot get the red out Nov 2024 #61
Kamala Harris is going to win kcr Nov 2024 #64
No. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2024 #65
You know what I said earlier, living in totally blue Eugene.... ? LizBeth Nov 2024 #73
No one said that pleasure at GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #68
Thank-you!! Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #71
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