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notroot

(267 posts) Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:47 AM Nov 2024

FINE... I'll be the first to say it: I wish Biden hadn't dropped out. [View all]

I know it was his choice, and he is elderly.

But America gave him 20 million votes we didn't give Harris.

Why? Because he's a WHITE MAN.

We gambled, like we did in 2016, that America had evolved beyond its sexist, racist roots.

And like 2016, we lost. This time we lost even bigger: we lost the popular vote?

Do the math.

Americans are garbage people.

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EDIT: You're right. Biden probably wouldn't have won either. Maybe he should've dropped out sooner so we could nominate a middle-aged wealthy white man.

Most Americans are garbage people, though. Would anything have made a difference?

They wanted their rapist racist. Now they've got him, and so do we.

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FINE... I'll be the first to say it: I wish Biden hadn't dropped out. [View all] notroot Nov 2024 OP

I think whoever the Dem candidate was would have lost newdeal2 Nov 2024 #1

Possibly only a tech bro / financial type pimpbot Nov 2024 #9

Probably true KnoxVol Nov 2024 #16

Possible for sure kerouac2 Nov 2024 #2

Exactly my ugly point about this ugly people. notroot Nov 2024 #6

Wouldn't have made a difference durablend Nov 2024 #3

And the voters SilverDawg Nov 2024 #4

Exactly. Different Drummer Nov 2024 #56

I think Democrats need to reckon with the reality of such widespread misogyny GreenEyedLefty Nov 2024 #5

Yah not saying Joe would've won. Nor am I saying Harris (I should say "we") ran a bad campaign notroot Nov 2024 #13

trump's win shows that racism and misogyny is much worst than we thought. brush Nov 2024 #25

It's because it's never been one demographic. It's heterogeneous. notroot Nov 2024 #30

I didn't want to say it, but what is up with so many Latino men? brush Nov 2024 #36

I think it's the macho thing dhol82 Nov 2024 #51

I know quite a few were angry that Joe. Was forced out. By the corrupt media True Blue American Nov 2024 #31

Or maybe he should have dropped out much earlier, leaving time for a real primary. milestogo Nov 2024 #7

The media did this. They would have attacked Meadowoak Nov 2024 #35

The one person with a proven record of beating Trump MOJohn Nov 2024 #8

expecting 2020 turnout was silly... WarGamer Nov 2024 #10

He would have Cirroc Nov 2024 #11

Not saying he would've won. Saying we lost because most Americans are garbage people. notroot Nov 2024 #19

We are not going to raise the level of consciousness cachukis Nov 2024 #12

I"m convinced it would have been worse. We gave our best shot considering. Silent Type Nov 2024 #14

Fuck yeah we did. We fought for democracy and lost to garbage people. notroot Nov 2024 #21

Yep, VP Harris ran a near-flawless campaign in the short three months she had. brush Nov 2024 #40

He wouldn't have done better. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #15

That's it exactly. Thank you for saying what I was trying to say. notroot Nov 2024 #22

Nah. He was behind 32 points before that poor debate performance. brush Nov 2024 #17

He would not have won. The media and voters refused to look past the visual ecstatic Nov 2024 #18

The visuals of Trump were worse IMHO, yet here we are. d***!! riversedge Nov 2024 #34

Amen to this. That is where the majority of the blame lies. Its not Joe, Its not Kamala, Its not Tim. Its the cowards tulipsandroses Nov 2024 #41

Biden only would have lost more states BeyondGeography Nov 2024 #20

Yeah, me too XanaDUer2 Nov 2024 #23

We would've still lost, probably. Most Americans are garbage people. notroot Nov 2024 #24

I don't know if Joe would have lost, PatSeg Nov 2024 #26

It's sad. We are a majority misogynist nation. The UK, India, Israel... brush Nov 2024 #44

I honestly don't think he could have taken the wear & tear even if he didn't try such a horrendous schedule as Harris. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #27

Many Americans are under and ill-educated. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #28

Especially in the red states Meadowoak Nov 2024 #38

Yep, and it's going to get worse with the elimnation of the Dept. of Education. brush Nov 2024 #45

That is a central tenet of slavery Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #47

The way it went down played entirely into the repug narrative. Patton French Nov 2024 #29

It is a very interesting proposition to ponder, and, you may be right. Tertullian Nov 2024 #32

He would not have received millions more votes than Kamala Harris. kentuck Nov 2024 #33

I think Joe Biden would have lost unfortunately In It to Win It Nov 2024 #37

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #39

He should have never run for reelection Zeitghost Nov 2024 #42

Apparently you're right. We needed a middle-aged wealthy white man. notroot Nov 2024 #43

Yep, we are the laggard, racist, misogynist nation of the G7. brush Nov 2024 #48

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and Obama won twice with big margins. Passages Nov 2024 #46

Misogyny plus Racism Bettie Nov 2024 #49

"Most" Americans voted for Biden in 2020 and for Hillary in 2016. onenote Nov 2024 #50

We will never know... the_liberal_grandpa Nov 2024 #52

I was furious that Joe ran for relection when it was evident to anyone paying attention that he was not up to the task. SharonClark Nov 2024 #54

Dean Phillips tried to raise the alarm about this Shrek Nov 2024 #55

Sorry but that was in 2020. All the polls indicated that his candidacy would have been a disaster. Whether it was a JohnSJ Nov 2024 #53