General Discussion

notroot

(267 posts)

13. Yah not saying Joe would've won. Nor am I saying Harris (I should say "we") ran a bad campaign

Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:54 AM

Nov 2024

We fought. Our ground game was historic. We knocked on doors and made calls and sent postcards and talked to friends and family.

We FOUGHT for democracy.

And lost to sexists and racists. There's more of them than there is of us, and their hate is stronger than our nebulous "community".

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Different Drummer

56 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

FINE... I'll be the first to say it: I wish Biden hadn't dropped out. [View all] notroot Nov 2024 OP

I think whoever the Dem candidate was would have lost newdeal2 Nov 2024 #1

Possibly only a tech bro / financial type pimpbot Nov 2024 #9

Probably true KnoxVol Nov 2024 #16

Possible for sure kerouac2 Nov 2024 #2

Exactly my ugly point about this ugly people. notroot Nov 2024 #6

Wouldn't have made a difference durablend Nov 2024 #3

And the voters SilverDawg Nov 2024 #4

Exactly. Different Drummer Nov 2024 #56

I think Democrats need to reckon with the reality of such widespread misogyny GreenEyedLefty Nov 2024 #5

Yah not saying Joe would've won. Nor am I saying Harris (I should say "we") ran a bad campaign notroot Nov 2024 #13

trump's win shows that racism and misogyny is much worst than we thought. brush Nov 2024 #25

It's because it's never been one demographic. It's heterogeneous. notroot Nov 2024 #30

I didn't want to say it, but what is up with so many Latino men? brush Nov 2024 #36

I think it's the macho thing dhol82 Nov 2024 #51

I know quite a few were angry that Joe. Was forced out. By the corrupt media True Blue American Nov 2024 #31

Or maybe he should have dropped out much earlier, leaving time for a real primary. milestogo Nov 2024 #7

The media did this. They would have attacked Meadowoak Nov 2024 #35

The one person with a proven record of beating Trump MOJohn Nov 2024 #8

expecting 2020 turnout was silly... WarGamer Nov 2024 #10

He would have Cirroc Nov 2024 #11

Not saying he would've won. Saying we lost because most Americans are garbage people. notroot Nov 2024 #19

We are not going to raise the level of consciousness cachukis Nov 2024 #12

I"m convinced it would have been worse. We gave our best shot considering. Silent Type Nov 2024 #14

Fuck yeah we did. We fought for democracy and lost to garbage people. notroot Nov 2024 #21

Yep, VP Harris ran a near-flawless campaign in the short three months she had. brush Nov 2024 #40

He wouldn't have done better. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #15

That's it exactly. Thank you for saying what I was trying to say. notroot Nov 2024 #22

Nah. He was behind 32 points before that poor debate performance. brush Nov 2024 #17

He would not have won. The media and voters refused to look past the visual ecstatic Nov 2024 #18

The visuals of Trump were worse IMHO, yet here we are. d***!! riversedge Nov 2024 #34

Amen to this. That is where the majority of the blame lies. Its not Joe, Its not Kamala, Its not Tim. Its the cowards tulipsandroses Nov 2024 #41

Biden only would have lost more states BeyondGeography Nov 2024 #20

Yeah, me too XanaDUer2 Nov 2024 #23

We would've still lost, probably. Most Americans are garbage people. notroot Nov 2024 #24

I don't know if Joe would have lost, PatSeg Nov 2024 #26

It's sad. We are a majority misogynist nation. The UK, India, Israel... brush Nov 2024 #44

I honestly don't think he could have taken the wear & tear even if he didn't try such a horrendous schedule as Harris. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #27

Many Americans are under and ill-educated. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #28

Especially in the red states Meadowoak Nov 2024 #38

Yep, and it's going to get worse with the elimnation of the Dept. of Education. brush Nov 2024 #45

That is a central tenet of slavery Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #47

The way it went down played entirely into the repug narrative. Patton French Nov 2024 #29

It is a very interesting proposition to ponder, and, you may be right. Tertullian Nov 2024 #32

He would not have received millions more votes than Kamala Harris. kentuck Nov 2024 #33

I think Joe Biden would have lost unfortunately In It to Win It Nov 2024 #37

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #39

He should have never run for reelection Zeitghost Nov 2024 #42

Apparently you're right. We needed a middle-aged wealthy white man. notroot Nov 2024 #43

Yep, we are the laggard, racist, misogynist nation of the G7. brush Nov 2024 #48

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and Obama won twice with big margins. Passages Nov 2024 #46

Misogyny plus Racism Bettie Nov 2024 #49

"Most" Americans voted for Biden in 2020 and for Hillary in 2016. onenote Nov 2024 #50

We will never know... the_liberal_grandpa Nov 2024 #52

I was furious that Joe ran for relection when it was evident to anyone paying attention that he was not up to the task. SharonClark Nov 2024 #54

Dean Phillips tried to raise the alarm about this Shrek Nov 2024 #55

Sorry but that was in 2020. All the polls indicated that his candidacy would have been a disaster. Whether it was a JohnSJ Nov 2024 #53