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meadowlander

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74. And locked Catholics out of jobs, housing and the political process for decades.
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 12:14 AM
Nov 2024

Only landowners got to vote in Northern Ireland until 1969 which incentivized the Protestant minority to make it almost impossible for Catholics to buy property which led to mass unemployment and homelessness with no spending on social services approved by politicians who were basically all Protestants.

"One person, one vote" was what the IRA was fighting for. Something I would hope seems like a no-brainer to people living in modern democracies.

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I was once at a St. Patrick's party at a bar in New York where it turned out they were raising money Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #1
wow... i had no idea. BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 2024 #20
In the late 90's Docreed2003 Nov 2024 #63
My ex's mother, a 5th generation Irish American, wnylib Nov 2024 #89
lol WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #2
What Pub and what Neighrhood? Raine1967 Nov 2024 #3
Not joking. I thought maybe this is just America! I lived in England most my life. I know many Americans Doodley Nov 2024 #6
Senator Joe Biden soandso Nov 2024 #35
I was in County Down the day in 1981 when Bobby Sands died visiting relatives for the 1st and only time. PufPuf23 Nov 2024 #52
What a story! I bet it there were some scary moments. Thanks for sharing. Doodley Nov 2024 #59
That could be troubles.ome. Abolishinist Nov 2024 #4
I guess you've never spent much time in Boston or NYC's most traditional Irish pubs. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #5
As I said in another reply, they have a "Remembering the hunger strikers" poster among newspaper cuttings that Doodley Nov 2024 #8
The support for the ira, a terrorist organization Meowmee Nov 2024 #12
Thank you. The support seems to be here on this thread! I am "naive" because I am shocked to see sympathizers. Doodley Nov 2024 #43
You will almost never get through to this type of person Meowmee Nov 2024 #45
That is the difference between American media, even back then, and the British media. Even though the UK has Doodley Nov 2024 #50
I don't like the BBC or the Guardian anymore Meowmee Nov 2024 #75
Who is sympathizing? I think that people are just commenting on wnylib Nov 2024 #90
I certainly did not intend to imply you were a sympathizer, but there are the "both sides" type posts here, Doodley Nov 2024 #91
In fact, I just read a post that says the IRA were freedom fighters, not terrorists. Pretty disgusting. Doodley Nov 2024 #92
The violence was generally rejected; the cause of the IRA, not so much except by Protestants and English. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #14
And "Black 47" wasn't just a bar on Second Avenue. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #19
No. Indeed. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #21
Stop stirring up s*hit OutNow Nov 2024 #7
Please read my previous reply, and please don't accuse me of stirring any pots. I don't support the IRA. Do you? Doodley Nov 2024 #10
Do you really think the IRA is widely & actively operating today 30 years after the Peace Accords were signed? hlthe2b Nov 2024 #16
I'm happy to answer your questions. Doodley Nov 2024 #22
One of my two masters degrees before I went into medicine was in history and I did hlthe2b Nov 2024 #27
What have I written that is inaccurate according to your superior knowledge? Could you be more patronizing? Doodley Nov 2024 #31
I get that you are defensive. I will leave the thread--hoping you WILL hlthe2b Nov 2024 #34
You can't answer my question. You basically claimed I don't know what I'm talking about. You Doodley Nov 2024 #36
You've shown no inclinication to listen. So, at a later date if you would like to have a constructive discourse, sure. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #39
Listen to what? I'm waiting for you to provide one fact that you claim I got wrong. Again you insult me. Apology please. Doodley Nov 2024 #41
First time in an Irish American pub then? meadowlander Nov 2024 #9
No the first, but don't frequent them! Doodley Nov 2024 #23
Seriously. H2O Man Nov 2024 #60
LOL n/t leftstreet Nov 2024 #11
Where? Lithos Nov 2024 #13
O'Reilly's, Sandy Springs (not auto parts!) Doodley Nov 2024 #24
Nice Lithos Nov 2024 #32
I'd be interested to hear what you think. You might get a lot of insults like I have had if you take issue though! Doodley Nov 2024 #69
Freedom fighters Arazi Nov 2024 #15
Sorry, but Sinn Fein never got much more than 13% of the Northern Ireland vote during the troubles. The IRA was a Doodley Nov 2024 #26
A genocide Doodley. 600 years of monstrous occupation Arazi Nov 2024 #30
What was the "horrific oppression" or "genocide" during the troubles? Doodley Nov 2024 #70
Disenfranchisement of Catholics meadowlander Nov 2024 #78
Every Irish bar in NYC collected money for the IRA Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #17
Up the rebels! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2024 #18
This post comes across as terribly naive Maeve Nov 2024 #25
The IRA were terrorists and were supported by a small percentage of people in Northern Ireland. I am naive if I'm not Doodley Nov 2024 #29
Are we not talking about old, yellowed newspaper clippings? Xavier Breath Nov 2024 #37
No. They are not yellowed. Would it be okay to put Nazi symbolism up in a public place, or conferate flags, or support Doodley Nov 2024 #56
Wow, overreact much? Xavier Breath Nov 2024 #66
The Unionists were also terrorists and the British government was oppressive Maeve Nov 2024 #49
Which bit justifies the IRA killing and maiming innocent people? Which bit of history don't I understand as well as you? Doodley Nov 2024 #53
The part where Unionists and Brit gov. also killed innocents Maeve Nov 2024 #55
And locked Catholics out of jobs, housing and the political process for decades. meadowlander Nov 2024 #74
You are kinder than me. H2O Man Nov 2024 #62
I've spent 20 years studying the issues Maeve Nov 2024 #65
I have family H2O Man Nov 2024 #81
I wish we could sit down and talk...your family history is fascinating Maeve Nov 2024 #85
1 person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. mopinko Nov 2024 #28
Don't pretend that the British government didn't bear some responsibility for the violence dflprincess Nov 2024 #33
... yonder Nov 2024 #38
That's my signature line. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #48
It's as fine a seal as the promise it bears. yonder Nov 2024 #87
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Xolodno Nov 2024 #40
I hope you left. Now, never go back there. Iggo Nov 2024 #42
One could always tell what side the bar was by the whiskey they sold Historic NY Nov 2024 #44
In the 1990's, both were bought by a FRENCH company Maeve Nov 2024 #51
Nothing surprising about that Cirsium Nov 2024 #46
They had a "Remembering the hunger strikers" poster, paying tribute to Bobby Sands and other hunger strikers. Doodley Nov 2024 #47
You should've put that in the OP. Iggo Nov 2024 #54
I will do it now. Thanks! Doodley Nov 2024 #61
And the Brits were angels. And the Black and Tan were choir boys. NoRethugFriends Nov 2024 #57
My bet - Someone at the pub has friends or relatives who are in the IRA. SupportSanity Nov 2024 #58
Is this The Onion? H2O Man Nov 2024 #64
My mother's side of the family came from Ireland soandso Nov 2024 #67
Extremely common DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2024 #68
Thanks for sharing. Good story about your friend's cousin! The Brits heard that funding for the IRA came from US. Doodley Nov 2024 #71
I worked for a property management company at that time soandso Nov 2024 #73
Soandso, I said I would remember your name when you were so courteous on another thread. You mix Doodley Nov 2024 #77
Wouldn't go that far, lol soandso Nov 2024 #79
I dunno, I cheered when they rocketed 10 Downing Street. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #72
And the next year, ten percent of those who voted in Northern Ireland, voted for Sinn Fein. It was an act of terrorism. Doodley Nov 2024 #76
I have a friend who went into a bar to get a pop and he evidently ordered the *right* Irish whiskey. LudwigPastorius Nov 2024 #80
Many people, including some in her own government, whathehell Nov 2024 #82
I'm delighted with the responses to your hostility to Irish unity OutNow Nov 2024 #83
these were not unity, these were murderous terror: Celerity Nov 2024 #84
My late husband was from Ireland CountAllVotes Nov 2024 #86
This isn't a new thing re Irish Pubs in the U.S. especially the ones that were started up by IRA and supporters. msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #88
I wonder if I ever saw you play at the pubs in S.F. CountAllVotes Nov 2024 #93
Mostly at the Plough. I think I did play Ireland's 32 once, but usually was always the Plough, or at the Star and Plough msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #94
Lots of great memories from your post CountAllVotes Nov 2024 #95
There were great memories, did you play? msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #96
Yes, I am a musician CountAllVotes Nov 2024 #97
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