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LearnedHand

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33. Not even close to best

Sat Nov 30, 2024, 12:14 AM

Nov 2024

People do come for economic opportunities, but they definitely don't come here for the medical system, the openness toward marginalized groups, or the strong position workers have.

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Some here may have an overly-romantic view of America. [View all] Yavin4 Nov 2024 OP

"A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn can DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #1

I believe most people experience a paradigm shift La Coliniere Nov 2024 #14

Indeed! For further reading to understand the modern system, DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #15

Sounds like very interesting reading. La Coliniere Nov 2024 #18

Thanks for the reference! DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #32

America is the best country in the world even with our warts. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #2

"Best" Cirsium Nov 2024 #4

Are you kidding? They could go to Canada, Europe, jimfields33 Nov 2024 #6

They do go to Canada and Europe far more than the US. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #11

Whatever Cirsium Nov 2024 #16

I'm not at all. You don't watch msnbc because jimfields33 Nov 2024 #17

Huh? Cirsium Nov 2024 #19

There are a lot of parts of the world that people would like to go rather than the US warts and all. tenderfoot Nov 2024 #10

We learn from them? choie Nov 2024 #26

Not even close to best LearnedHand Nov 2024 #33

The only Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #37

reminds me of a joke I heard The Wandering Harper Dec 2024 #39

I don't know who the "some here" are, especially since we are currently going thru a seizure of despair Hekate Nov 2024 #3

I'm critiquing those who think that this nation is better than Trump and MAGA. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #12

Patriotism is the passion of fools and the most foolish of passions. Arthur Schopenhauer Ping Tung Nov 2024 #5

Yes. and so it has been throughout human "civilization", migration to greener pastures msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #8

A profound OP malaise Nov 2024 #7

That "reversion to the mean" was evident not long after... keep_left Nov 2024 #9

It has never once lived up to its ideals. alarimer Nov 2024 #13

I thought the supreme court would protect our individualism; even when the majority voted against us. I thought DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2024 #20

Well they sure weren't looking out for us when they sided with big money in the japple Dec 2024 #35

I did say, "I thought" not "I knew" or "I know". Maybe I could have said, "I thought I knew". I now see that DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 2024 #38

Sorry, I partly disagree. There's -definitely some- Americans like that; but I've seen Much Kindness over decades from.. electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #21

Sure, individuals can be commendable in looking out for others. alarimer Dec 2024 #34

Ah, I get it now. electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #36

You're absolutely right ThePartyThatListens Nov 2024 #22

Yes true, it's Meowmee Nov 2024 #23

I don't know when* such information was sanitized. At least in NYC in "the 60's" I either learned almost all of this.... electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #24

Cool, America is a shithole and it's no big deal we just lost the election! Fish700 Nov 2024 #25

I don't think that's what the OP was implying. choie Nov 2024 #27

Canada has a dark past too. The past was dark everywhere if applegrove Nov 2024 #28

There aren't a lot of societies that aren't standing on the bones of the people they wiped out to create it. Fish700 Nov 2024 #29

True. But American culture and educational systems sanitizes our dark history. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #30

Yes. Teach it. applegrove Nov 2024 #31