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Oneironaut

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23. I understand that viewpoint and don't think it conflicts with trans people.

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Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:18 PM

Dec 2024

The free ability to shed gender roles and trans people existing are not mutually exclusive.

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Ted Cruz's sex-change TV ads gave him another term dalton99a Dec 2024 #1

You're not going to get an honest discussion about trans issues from Helen Lewis. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2024 #2

Exactly Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #16

Good luck with that. BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #3

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As a trans woman I find that incredibly offensive AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2024 #12

I get what you are saying. But also women have long history of attempting to shed gender roles. boston bean Dec 2024 #17

I understand that viewpoint and don't think it conflicts with trans people. Oneironaut Dec 2024 #23

That is understood. But I think sometimes is looked upon as an attack, when it is not. boston bean Dec 2024 #34

Sometimes the context it's coming from is transphobic, however, tbh. Oneironaut Dec 2024 #37

Gender "roles" are fully ridiculous Charging Triceratops Dec 2024 #39

This ain't it, chief. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2024 #20

Wow. First - just a reminder - Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #47

Let's hear more directly from trans people. LAS14 Dec 2024 #63

I always find the shower concern hilarious meadowlander Dec 2024 #72

From Lewis? Passages Dec 2024 #5

Approximately 1% of the US population identify as transgender (from a google search) - somehow that 1% becomes of vast NoMoreRepugs Dec 2024 #6

I agree. It's an example of clever strategy by Republicans. yardwork Dec 2024 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Demovictory9 Dec 2024 #13

Ah, that was the "Harris is for they/them" ad. It ran absolutely everywhere in the country for weeks. bearsfootball516 Dec 2024 #31

It was devastatingly effective. yardwork Dec 2024 #33

She could have stated how she felt about using LeftInTX Dec 2024 #42

Same strategy used in 2004 with same gender marriage. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #49

I thought voters would recognize that Trump also supported gender affirming care for inmates using taxpayer dollars Shambala Dec 2024 #56

Those ads were relentless moose65 Dec 2024 #70

Apparently nearly 30% of Gen Z consider themselves LBGTQ. pandr32 Dec 2024 #19

In my swing state (still mostly red), the ad where Charlemagne said "Hell no I don't want my tax money going Silent Type Dec 2024 #7

Kark Rove made his career out of turning an opponent's strength into a weakness dalton99a Dec 2024 #8

So Charlemagne is also TommyT139 Dec 2024 #48

I agree. Voters apparently did not. Silent Type Dec 2024 #51

Of course - but this argument wasn't made, either. TommyT139 Dec 2024 #53

They edited the video to remove the context. Scipio Africanus Dec 2024 #55

That wasn't a problem until 2020. Initech Dec 2024 #10

Blame lies where it always does and thatvit with the american voters Fullduplexxx Dec 2024 #27

That doesn't work Cirsium Dec 2024 #58

Don't fool yourself - it was an issue, Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #52

The funny thing is the people screaming about trans women in sports... Initech Dec 2024 #82

This is a subject so rife with misunderstandings (intentional and less so) that only the most adamant hlthe2b Dec 2024 #11

The angry attacks on healthcare providers ramped up during COVID. yardwork Dec 2024 #35

I had to laugh even though it is not funny. Honestly, I only wish this was news to me. hlthe2b Dec 2024 #41

No. Quiet Em Dec 2024 #14

You might want to let the republicans know. BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #24

Don't really care about ignorant Republicans who have no knowledge or understanding of the issue Quiet Em Dec 2024 #25

Yeah, I read that book too. BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #28

Not sure what you are referring to. Quiet Em Dec 2024 #29

Bullshit. Democrats need learn to focus Americans' attention on the things that actually Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #15

You are so right. The Republicans ran with a rapist and convicted felon for president who was awaiting trial muriel_volestrangler Dec 2024 #26

It also shows, and I take heat for saying this but it's obvious, that Democrats need Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #30

I'm enjoying the bus tires running us over. /s Oneironaut Dec 2024 #18

Oof, yeah AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2024 #22

This is the key point. yardwork Dec 2024 #40

It's the Willy Horton ploy LeftInTX Dec 2024 #44

Yes. It's always something. yardwork Dec 2024 #66

That ad worked in Detroit. Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #21

"Trans girls playing in girls' sports" is itself a rightwing dog whistle LearnedHand Dec 2024 #32

Transgender rights are a prelude. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #36

They are going after divorce for women Bettie Dec 2024 #64

This issue hurt more than inflation JI7 Dec 2024 #38

And it's a non-issue. yardwork Dec 2024 #43

I recall correctly, I think GusBob Dec 2024 #45

It is not "inferred rather strongly," it is explicitly against the rules of the forum. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #59

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You cannot advocate to restrict the rights of trans individuals on a progressive/left political forum, Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Dec 2024 #69

If you don't understand why discrimination is wrong I'm not sure what to say AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2024 #73

I remember similar shout-outs over racial segregation. DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 2024 #46

When Jimmy Carter sent Amy to a public school in Washington DC Jk23 Dec 2024 #50

Boston was where the battle against segregation ended. DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 2024 #60

JK23 What motivated you to join DU? 33taw Dec 2024 #54

Good question. Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #65

I wish we could make Zoey Tur a spokesperson. LAS14 Dec 2024 #57

This topic infuriates me ismnotwasm Dec 2024 #62

I have never understood the debate. Asa13 Dec 2024 #67

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Democrats shouldn't stand up for human rights, gotcha! AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2024 #74

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Then I think the people you talk to should educate themselves. Oneironaut Dec 2024 #79

"I have never met a single person who thinks individuals born as males should be playing female sports" LAS14 Dec 2024 #80

I believe you have never met a single person who is transgender. Quiet Em Dec 2024 #81

Also, explaining it requires more than 15 seconds of effort/thought and the desire to learn on the part of the person meadowlander Dec 2024 #78

OP, thank you for having the courage to raise this topic in such a thoughtful manner... PeaceWave Dec 2024 #75

Enough is enough!! BootOutTheGoons Dec 2024 #76