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paleotn

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66. "Most people no longer look at Sunday shows....Bigotry and hate fuels them."

Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:29 PM

Dec 2024

"They like what they see in trump because his dark selfish heart is their heart." You just typed that. Do you know all of them? Most people that is?

We can counter their message with one that reaches people if we'd only try. And, for god's sake, stop acting like Ivy League college professors. That shit ain't working. I may like it. You may like it. The bulk of the country, who are seething in anger at what's been done to them, does not. Tap into the damn anger. We CAN do that. We've done it before. We use to be good at that.

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Why Democrats Are Losing Americans Without a College Degree--and How to Win Them Back [View all] applegrove Dec 2024 OP

We have been through this a million times Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #1

Assuming you are correct, what is the solution? Just continue to see the working class of all races kelly1mm Dec 2024 #12

If the dunce cap fits Bettie Dec 2024 #17

So, again, if the voters are stupid (they may well be) and they are making serious inroads into formerly kelly1mm Dec 2024 #21

You can't make people Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #22

So it sounds like with the working class going R, the Hispanics going R (46% in 2024!) and white women going R (while kelly1mm Dec 2024 #25

Propaganda works if you like and respect a dictator. Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #29

the problem isn't the democrats, America won't vote for a woman, especially a black one. We would have won in a Meadowoak Dec 2024 #53

Don't agree. They hate women, that is truth, but this is about malignant propaganda travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #60

As strongly as *I* support a woman - minority, white, whatever - for President RandomNumbers Dec 2024 #61

Truth. And I also don't believe all these groups are Meadowoak Dec 2024 #62

Relatively few people watch Fox News Kaleva Dec 2024 #39

Propaganda is everywhere Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #41

Church! Jesus Christ don't forget church! IrishAfricanAmerican Dec 2024 #73

Sorry Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #75

The solution is to run a middle-aged straight protestant white guy. Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #34

That would probably be safest but President Obama proves the white guy is not a prerequisite, President kelly1mm Dec 2024 #35

Obama had enough charisma to stop a train. Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #36

yes you are correct. give them what they asked for. Nimble_Idea Dec 2024 #52

YEP, BECAUSE THEY ARE, solution is revamped education for k-12, because the current system is clearly not working krawhitham Dec 2024 #69

Do we as a planet, let alone a country have 13-18 years? nt kelly1mm Dec 2024 #78

FDR managed to win four terms as President and no_hypocrisy Dec 2024 #2

But it took people starving in the streets to get FDR in the WH Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #4

We live in an infinitely more affluent time Cosmocat Dec 2024 #5

I think you make a good point. Raven123 Dec 2024 #10

One big difference is that FDR was not seen as big on improving race relations, still allowing Silent Type Dec 2024 #6

I'm writing this as a Black American JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #70

It was a different time Polybius Dec 2024 #74

So much advice from so many nincompoops Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #3

So the advice is to have a once a century pandemic? EdmondDantes_ Dec 2024 #9

I agree. 'The voters are stupid' (even if true) is not a slogan we should run on in 2026/2028 although that sentiment kelly1mm Dec 2024 #13

Dems had a good message Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #18

Post removed Post removed Dec 2024 #28

I disagree Nimble_Idea Dec 2024 #55

who is "we" Nimble_Idea Dec 2024 #56

A lot of people here Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #26

That's a given. paleotn Dec 2024 #7

Where do we get this message out Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #24

We're still covered. We're on the Sunday shows. paleotn Dec 2024 #50

Most people no longer look at Sunday shows Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #63

So you personally know them all? Interesting. paleotn Dec 2024 #64

Straw man Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #65

"Most people no longer look at Sunday shows....Bigotry and hate fuels them." paleotn Dec 2024 #66

The people who voted for trump didn't have a problem with his flaws. Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #67

And you know every single person who voted for Trump. Sorry, ain't buying it. paleotn Dec 2024 #68

"Democrats can side with corporate interests, or they can win elections. But they cannot do both." Yavin4 Dec 2024 #8

trump merely reflects the views and morals of his voters. he is one of them, just happens to be rich nt msongs Dec 2024 #11

There is no shortage of deep red areas where this particular line of progressive thinking could be tested out... W_HAMILTON Dec 2024 #14

Only a small portion of workers are unionized MichMan Dec 2024 #15

Really glad to see that labor unions are part of their solution. keep_left Dec 2024 #16

Who's obsessing over culture war issues? Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #23

See post #20. keep_left Dec 2024 #33

The south never changed Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #42

Well, you're right about that. Desperation is probably... keep_left Dec 2024 #71

Don't get me started on the post civil war years Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #72

Sigh.... Most of us are over-thinking again. We know the real problem whether we admit it or not. Jit423 Dec 2024 #19

Interesting that they fail to mention non-economic issues. Abolishinist Dec 2024 #20

Republicans are all culture wars, they love the rich, the 1% are part of the Us in the Us vs Them. betsuni Dec 2024 #31

Close to 50% of white males with a college degree voted for Trump Kaleva Dec 2024 #40

Stop saving them from themselves. Stop saving them from the Republican Party's bullshit In It to Win It Dec 2024 #27

If enough Americans go broke and starve and die from Trump's policies we might have a chance. ZonkerHarris Dec 2024 #30

As long as you need kacekwl Dec 2024 #32

Some people are acting like there is a way back brettdale Dec 2024 #37

The orange hellbeast said : I love low-information voters! and they loved him for it. ... Hekate Dec 2024 #38

This is going to be a tough 4 years Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #43

Agree with some parts, but Ndp5 Dec 2024 #44

Some good points Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #45

To tweak Churchill's quote on democracy... Ndp5 Dec 2024 #47

Young people don't have the attention span to read newspapers Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #48

Your SC and their Citizens United decision fucked that over arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #46

We aren't losing becsuse of issues. If Biden was 10 years younger we would have won JI7 Dec 2024 #49

He would have won anyway but was railroaded out. valleyrogue Dec 2024 #58

These loonies only respond when told they are the smartest bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #51

Union membership will decline, ultra conservative media will expand, the economy will falter - NoMoreRepugs Dec 2024 #54

I believe there were only a couple posts in this whole thread that gets it Nimble_Idea Dec 2024 #59

More nonsense. valleyrogue Dec 2024 #57

Democrats are losing people without college degrees due to decades of haele Dec 2024 #76

yes! mike_c Dec 2024 #77