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Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
4. This has been going on for over 30 years
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:03 PM
Dec 2024

It’s only going to get worse with AI as well. No one will have to write very much at all anymore and they can just use AI.. 😹 as far as the attention span issues go that has also been going on for a long time. I was told not to make a video lecture more than 5- 10 minutes long because nobody would be able to pay attention to it.

* adding this: when some students hear Leonardo they think Di Caprio… not Da Vinci… one student when starting her presentation said I’m going to be talking about the Mona Lisa by Leonardo DiCaprio 😹😹😹

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I personally think that a lot more time and emphasis should be spent on English composition courses Walleye Dec 2024 #1
Our educational system is to blame for the lack of reading and writing in schools. rich7862 Dec 2024 #129
21st century skills exboyfil Dec 2024 #132
Absolutely. Writing essays, the thought process it develops, and by typing them on a keyboard... brush Dec 2024 #176
It's even worse than that. snot Dec 2024 #142
Would that be about Neil Bush's company Ignite*? (W's crooked brother) Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #165
Sorry, I didn't catch that part of the story. snot Dec 2024 #173
Apparently the high-level administrators never learned to not just read, but to think critically... brush Dec 2024 #177
The problem is they want to text everything DenaliDemocrat Dec 2024 #149
And in the details of "old math." Too many people do not know how to work with percentages. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2024 #166
I've been pondering for awhile bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #2
And a lack of respect for institutional knowledge. LisaM Dec 2024 #8
Definitely! /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #21
So much this! Horse with no Name Dec 2024 #168
That has not been my experience. Happy Hoosier Dec 2024 #108
And the young professionals of 30-40 years ago VMA131Marine Dec 2024 #128
I love this... appmanga Dec 2024 #3
WTH? SheltieLover Dec 2024 #7
Back in the 1980s, H2O Man Dec 2024 #26
An acquaintance of mine went to the pizza place Demobrat Dec 2024 #33
I think of these H2O Man Dec 2024 #41
I had nothing Demobrat Dec 2024 #42
At such time, H2O Man Dec 2024 #60
"where he tells his girlfriend's brother he has 'an appointment on earth'" snot Dec 2024 #144
🙄 Rebl2 Dec 2024 #123
Bringing parents to an interview is a new level of pathetic. Noel Kums Dec 2024 #15
No kidding! calimary Dec 2024 #25
And who the hell are these parents who would agree... 3catwoman3 Dec 2024 #28
My God. Are these parents actually sitting in on the interview and prompting their kids answers? brush Dec 2024 #86
I still remember in 1985, I moved to NYC for a job and was looking for an apartment... bsiebs Dec 2024 #29
I still wouldn't live bamagal62 Dec 2024 #57
I lived at 10th St and Avenue A in 1972 Lulu KC Dec 2024 #69
I lived at 7th and Ave B ('76-77?) Nittersing Dec 2024 #102
Ahh, Alphabet City DebbieCDC Dec 2024 #72
I had a colleague, Leo, who received a call from a student spooky3 Dec 2024 #54
The chair of a science department told me she got calls from the parents of young faculty. yardwork Dec 2024 #105
I wonder how she replied? :-) spooky3 Dec 2024 #116
She reminded them that she couldn't talk at all, due to laws, etc. yardwork Dec 2024 #124
I find that seriously hard to believe Skittles Dec 2024 #85
I had to tell a friend of mine not to go with her son to his first interview. Mariana Dec 2024 #90
The children of very wealthy people don't even have to suffer the indignity of a real interview. hunter Dec 2024 #118
That sounds like cat litter in the classroom exboyfil Dec 2024 #133
Read a version of this story a couple of wks ago. This blew me away. Also mentioned allegorical oracle Dec 2024 #161
I know a woman who works at a university to get students thru the program for teaching certification Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #167
Bet they love AI. nt allegorical oracle Dec 2024 #169
Maybe the ones who can spell it Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #172
This has been going on for over 30 years Meowmee Dec 2024 #4
Good grief! SheltieLover Dec 2024 #10
Yes and endless tv shows, movies, video games etc. Meowmee Dec 2024 #13
YouTube is for geezers JoseBalow Dec 2024 #34
I think you're correct on that, Jose. Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #44
I like YouTube too! JoseBalow Dec 2024 #47
Back at ya, friend! Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #53
Same here. Some of the You Tube videos that I watch are movie length, wnylib Dec 2024 #112
I'm no youngster by any means, but I spends hours a day on YouTube Polybius Dec 2024 #70
And a lot of those shorts have tik-tok watermarks... getagrip_already Dec 2024 #126
I should have been more clear Polybius Dec 2024 #130
"I'm going to be talking about the Mona Lisa by Leonardo DiCaprio." Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #43
Yup 😹😹 Meowmee Dec 2024 #52
Yeah. AI hasn't quite worked out its kinks. PeaceWave Dec 2024 #179
At Least Both Of Them... ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #121
Yes, lol 😹 Meowmee Dec 2024 #155
I wouldn't put my name on what I have seen come out of AI so far exboyfil Dec 2024 #135
Some of it is ok, if what I tested was ai etc. Meowmee Dec 2024 #156
Some of this pre-dates COVID. I work at a law firm. LisaM Dec 2024 #5
How much of this has to do with college? Renew Deal Dec 2024 #9
Professors have their own issues, including parents. LisaM Dec 2024 #18
Wouldn't IEPs cosmic wheels Dec 2024 #30
My daughter had an IEP, and she isn't cognitvely impaired. She is quadriplegic with a speech disability, deurbano Dec 2024 #55
Yes, you can have an IEP for ADD Lulu KC Dec 2024 #63
I've heard this multiple times from different disconnected people in different regions Renew Deal Dec 2024 #6
One of my hot buttons. I watched academic cbabe Dec 2024 #11
Yes, we tried to save money and cut corners by dumbing down what was asked of kids meadowlander Dec 2024 #80
It wasn't just about saving money. snot Dec 2024 #145
Today's teachers came up during the "No Child Left Behind" period FakeNoose Dec 2024 #170
Twas ever thus. They said this about GenX and Millennials too. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2024 #12
Gen X and Millennials are the ones who educated this generation IbogaProject Dec 2024 #24
My point being that when Gen X got to the workplace, there were plenty of scare pieces about them being unemployable. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2024 #31
I'm older Gen X & did not live as you did - TBF Dec 2024 #36
GenX has three cohorts IbogaProject Dec 2024 #38
Yep. That scheduled and supervised bamagal62 Dec 2024 #67
Born in '67. GaYellowDawg Dec 2024 #162
Harvard started its writing program to handle the fact that students couldn't write Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #68
Yes, but... Karia Dec 2024 #119
IMO, readers are usually better writers. I'm curious if they're more empathetic too, generally. CrispyQ Dec 2024 #131
One my slogans: in order to write well, one must read well. Plus way too much screen cbabe Dec 2024 #171
They live in a world with which we lack familiarity. cachukis Dec 2024 #14
In order to graduate with a four year degree, we had to write a 500 word essay. 2001 oldfart73 Dec 2024 #16
In the mid 1980s, I was on the faculty of the school of nursing... 3catwoman3 Dec 2024 #50
So, this isn't a brand-new phenomenon, unique to Gen Z? Mariana Dec 2024 #99
I know a college ReRe Dec 2024 #88
Have you read The Anxious Genrration SheltieLover Dec 2024 #17
Exactly! Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #134
Glad someone here has read it. SheltieLover Dec 2024 #139
Oh goody! I had wondered when the youth bash threads would start up again. Celerity Dec 2024 #19
I don't think it's youth bashing. LisaM Dec 2024 #20
I was talking about some of the replies. Celerity Dec 2024 #40
It is compassion for a problem we ALL have a role in propagating. Get a clue, Celerity. Really. hlthe2b Dec 2024 #22
I was talking about some of the replies, and please do not tell me to 'get a clue' Celerity Dec 2024 #45
You help no one by denying the problem exists. Is it new? No. Only getting worse. And yes, the ageism hlthe2b Dec 2024 #49
You do not have right to condescend to me. EOS Celerity Dec 2024 #58
You do not have the right to call out every other DUer on this thread that you disagree with-- hlthe2b Dec 2024 #59
The examples I gave were youth bashing. You cannot spin that. Celerity Dec 2024 #64
Well, at least there's no bashing of Abolishinist Dec 2024 #81
Awww, thanks! Celerity Dec 2024 #84
Sorry that some feel the need to crap on your posts Celerity Docreed2003 Dec 2024 #164
thank you for the kind words Celerity Dec 2024 #174
Btw, 'my abuse?' That is rich. especially coming from you, who condescendingly told me to 'get a clue' Celerity Dec 2024 #62
You are correct Cirsium Dec 2024 #73
It isn't strange for DU. It is par for the course. I have tried to get so many of social set, most of them in the 18 Celerity Dec 2024 #82
Get a clue, Celerity. This abusive disconnect you have for those who are concerned for hlthe2b Dec 2024 #96
I just read the article Cirsium Dec 2024 #127
Note: snot Dec 2024 #146
You do yourself no favors...Most here want to help. The question is, do YOU? hlthe2b Dec 2024 #95
Just stepping in briefly here, then swiftly out again Emrys Dec 2024 #157
Most here are concerned, want to help and take blame for the system that has failed several generations now hlthe2b Dec 2024 #159
Do I care? Well, I can read. Emrys Dec 2024 #160
Tell 'em!!! NNadir Dec 2024 #138
if students cannot do the work. flunk them. does them no favors to do the work for them msongs Dec 2024 #23
There is a Reddit subforum called r/BoomersBeingFools milestogo Dec 2024 #27
Don't trust anyone over 30.... reACTIONary Dec 2024 #35
I'm with you, milestogo ReRe Dec 2024 #87
Lol there is a subreddit for just about everything. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #92
I take it you weren't one of the Boomers who were out there protesting Mariana Dec 2024 #98
Its one thing to protest policies milestogo Dec 2024 #106
It makes me very sad that there's so little respect for all kinds of people nowadays. snot Dec 2024 #147
The next generation has been going to doom us all for centuries. Gore1FL Dec 2024 #32
Right? "The younger generation sucks," said every generation ever. Orrex Dec 2024 #37
I work as a substitute and I demand every student finish at least one assignment kimbutgar Dec 2024 #39
we've been getting new hires at work. I can firmly say that most of them lack proper grammar, punctuation... Javaman Dec 2024 #46
I was hired by a bank manager to teach cbabe Dec 2024 #48
Next Year, They'll Just Buy... ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #122
A lot of the "correction" software I've experienced snot Dec 2024 #148
Good One! ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #154
Wait.... After Trump and his ilk get rid of the DOE, our kids won't be able to do any jobs that requires any.... William Gustafson Dec 2024 #51
I think this is an excuse a generation of humans growing up in our Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #56
Going to disagree in part rpannier Dec 2024 #65
The world, most countries, have began the industrialization Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #76
When parents pour so much time and energy into over-parenting, snot Dec 2024 #150
See post 17 SheltieLover Dec 2024 #103
Some I know think they can do their whole job with their phone nini Dec 2024 #61
I've seen this article angrychair Dec 2024 #66
I have reason to believe it's accurate Renew Deal Dec 2024 #71
It's completely anecdotal angrychair Dec 2024 #79
Not any more than your story Renew Deal Dec 2024 #91
Well no problem. There will be no Department of Education flamingdem Dec 2024 #74
The Dept of Education wasn't formed until 1980 MichMan Dec 2024 #83
Nothing new Cirsium Dec 2024 #75
Socialized different. Probably technology related Sympthsical Dec 2024 #77
In my experience with medical students, I've seen much of the same Docreed2003 Dec 2024 #163
I've worked in an administrator position for 18 years now, where I hire professional and support staff. lees1975 Dec 2024 #78
Do they improve over time at the job ? JI7 Dec 2024 #89
All deez yutes need to git off my lawn. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #93
A couple of things: no_hypocrisy Dec 2024 #94
Writing is BIG in law. Son was always a good writer but said in law school he really learned how to write. LizBeth Dec 2024 #117
Why wouldn't parents go to job interviews with their parents tinymontgomery Dec 2024 #97
Odd...my two older Gen Z kids Bettie Dec 2024 #100
My youngest son is in so called, "Generation Z" NNadir Dec 2024 #101
My experience with my neices and nephew, as well as my interns at work too Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #111
Thank you. I fully agree. NNadir Dec 2024 #114
I agree. My sons are 29 and 27. I love their perspective/attitude and peers. Well educated. LizBeth Dec 2024 #120
I was a professor at a good university for years róisín_dubh Dec 2024 #104
Now I'm curious snot Dec 2024 #151
It's a work in progress! róisín_dubh Dec 2024 #158
How much did home schooling contribute to their social incompetence? nt in2herbs Dec 2024 #107
Spend 20 minutes on tik tok... getagrip_already Dec 2024 #109
Tik tok is a filter which draws a certain subset of people. NNadir Dec 2024 #113
I dont have an account either, but it bleeds to other services getagrip_already Dec 2024 #125
My point is not about whether you or I have an account. NNadir Dec 2024 #136
I think another factor snot Dec 2024 #152
So the problematic age range that we've seen ecstatic Dec 2024 #110
We wind up firing about 25% of the new hires, and another 50% quit. thatdemguy Dec 2024 #115
The phone addiction's as bad as snot Dec 2024 #153
The phone addiction - headphones and ear buds - are a huge problem. LisaM Dec 2024 #175
Yes! snot Dec 2024 #178
It's not just parenting that's the problem LogDog75 Dec 2024 #137
Horace said The Revolution Dec 2024 #140
I can't believe snot Dec 2024 #141
I could care less Renew Deal Dec 2024 #143
You know, Elessar Zappa Dec 2024 #180
There are the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas mass shooting survivors & others that speak well to the generation... hlthe2b Dec 2024 #181
I'm a Boomer... rasputin1952 Dec 2024 #182
Wasn't this the "bubble boy" generation that had kids being brought up in a cocoon where everyone gets a trophy even Vinca Dec 2024 #183
Sometimes the parents are to blame lanlady Dec 2024 #184
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