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In reply to the discussion: I believe we all owe Senator Bernie Sanders a public apology [View all]
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(77,324 posts)108. No
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They may not be solely his ideas but he was one of a very few elected legislators consistently promoting them
0rganism
Dec 2024
#53
Excellent point. Perhaps "selectively ethical" or "topically ethical" would better describe him.
0rganism
Dec 2024
#215
You can say he lost, according to the manner in which the Democratic party ran its primaries.
lees1975
Dec 2024
#129
So you think the only way for liberals to win is to walk lockstep with the DNCC?
intheflow
Dec 2024
#165
I believed at the time, that Bernie would have won in the 2016 election against the grifter.
yellow dahlia
Dec 2024
#232
Different voter pool, different opponents. It is possible he could have persuaded more voters than Tim Kaine did.
thesquanderer
Dec 2024
#66
NH, CO, MN, OK, VT, KS, ME, MI, ID, UT, AK, HI, WA, WI, WY, RI, IN, WV, OR, MN, ND
Nanjeanne
Dec 2024
#86
Many of his supporters did vote for Trump in 2006. Similar message: how awful life was
question everything
Dec 2024
#39
Sanders was always angry. As was Warren. Biden's positive, uplifting message was encouraging
question everything
Dec 2024
#98
We're living in a time that warrants anger, and it didn't start just now.
ThePartyThatListens
Dec 2024
#117
I don't want to criticize him for fear that he'll switch to (D) again & put me in violation of the TOS.
Orrex
Dec 2024
#33
Bernie's amendment lead to the only audit of the fed we have ever had
questionseverything
Dec 2024
#222
There's a Trumpist up the hill from me who's sooooo economically anxious. He's an orthopedic surgeon...
Hekate
Dec 2024
#105
Bernie is fine up to the point you realize he has a one-size-fits-all solution. Half the population...
Hekate
Dec 2024
#106
I'm specifically referring to the fanatics on Twitter living in swing states
Blue_Tires
Dec 2024
#46
Ah, yes, twitter. An excellent source of information. It was a dump even before muskrat bought it.
Dave Bowman
Dec 2024
#55
lol thanks, I needed a good laugh tonight. Bernie hasn't done anything that would change my assessment of him.
tritsofme
Dec 2024
#17
He could have changed his registration to a Democrat before seeking the nomination
question everything
Dec 2024
#82
He was the one who claimed liberal Democrats like FDR/LBJ were "democratic socialists" and not capitalists.
betsuni
Dec 2024
#83
Yeah ... no. I have softened on him, but he still has never acknowledged the misogyny of his Bros and...
Hekate
Dec 2024
#26
He has been in the Senate a long time. They only have to stand for election every six years.
Walleye
Dec 2024
#50
What someone accomplishes in any legislature has little to nothing to do with running for the presidency.
Yavin4
Dec 2024
#56
So we just campaign on ideas? Legislative accomplishments don't matter? I don't get it.
Walleye
Dec 2024
#60
Biden won in 2020 because we were in a national crisis, not bc of his time in the senate.
Yavin4
Dec 2024
#67
After this last election, I don't think we can count on the median voter to come to any kind of rational conclusion
Walleye
Dec 2024
#73
If he wanted to be the Democratic candidate he should have changed his registration to DEMOCRAT
question everything
Dec 2024
#36
I don't owe him an apology - I did as much as I could for him financially when he ran
TBF
Dec 2024
#59
Absolutely. There are many searching for (and inventing) "reasons" while overlooking the obvious.
Oopsie Daisy
Dec 2024
#221
Look at his mayor agenda and you will see a right leaning Dem or a left leaning Rep.
LizBeth
Dec 2024
#166
For What? for those speculating that they believe he would have won against trump in 2016, seem to forget that
JohnSJ
Dec 2024
#71
The party has been moving away from neoliberalism. Biden is the most progressive and pro-union president in decades.
TRHST82
Dec 2024
#141
What if the reason VP Harris didn't win was not because there need to be changes in the Party.
yellow dahlia
Dec 2024
#233
You don't think we'd have been better off if he'd endorsed Hillary as soon as she won the primaries
pnwmom
Dec 2024
#76
I agree that his behavior was problematic. But let's not underestimate how much damage James Comey did.
StevieM
Dec 2024
#111
We'll never know. But Bernie was the single PROGRESSIVE who could have made a difference if he'd done the right thing.nt
pnwmom
Dec 2024
#171
Hillary didn"t lose because Bernie waited too long to endorse her . . .
markpkessinger
Dec 2024
#216
In an election decided by so few votes, his enthusiastic campaigning for her -- as he did for Biden --
pnwmom
Dec 2024
#217
Yes, he lost about 30% of former support in 2020 (had been anti-Hillary vote, not pro-Sanders).
betsuni
Dec 2024
#88
Umm because he is not a Democrat? Did not have the integrity to switch registration the way he has been doing
question everything
Dec 2024
#192
I'm afraid I can't forgive Bernie for his latest trashing of Democrats. Right after the election he came out railing
Vinca
Dec 2024
#115
Reading this thread, it appears the Democrats have an excellent chance of continuing to lose.
Lucky Luciano
Dec 2024
#121
I think there are huge differences between AOC and Sanders. She's a better politician, firstly. If she can
LauraInLA
Dec 2024
#155
In womens face, when they spoke while he told them to sit down and shut up, dont use woman card.
LizBeth
Dec 2024
#168
That may be but he still help defeat HRC. I can never forget that and Trump's election is constant reminder. nt
Jit423
Dec 2024
#194
Yeah, no. He didn't even come close to winning a primary. Shitty advisors, poor campaigns that never
emulatorloo
Dec 2024
#200
Bernie Sanders owes me an apology for hiring lying lunatics like David Sirota, Paul Manafort, and Brie-Brie.
emulatorloo
Dec 2024
#203
"Rabid Bernie Haters"??? --- Please. Spare me. I don't see anyone here who matches that description.
Oopsie Daisy
Dec 2024
#220