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123. Principles are sorely lacking these days.

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Thu Dec 19, 2024, 05:02 PM

Dec 2024

Sad huh?

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Democrats don't blame Harris. In fact, many want her back in 2028. [View all] JoeOtterbein Dec 2024 OP

Bad idea. cloudbase Dec 2024 #1

Agreed Greg_In_SF Dec 2024 #3

Such a good argument. Jakes Progress Dec 2024 #33

Running Harris again epitomizes the oft-cited definition of insanity. cloudbase Dec 2024 #61

Just what competent republican candidate (oxymoron) do you think has a chance of being nominated Jakes Progress Dec 2024 #89

Given the unique circumstances of this race, cloudbase Dec 2024 #93

All true except Jakes Progress Dec 2024 #111

California Democrats do not play well nationally DenaliDemocrat Dec 2024 #138

This is very true rollin74 Dec 2024 #150

We get it. You don't like California. But you still didn't address the question. Jakes Progress Dec 2024 #151

Agree...sadly this country has too many racist sexist bigots that would vote no for a woman POTUS PortTack Dec 2024 #46

Yes, WIN get the red out Dec 2024 #104

Same here! We would all benefit greatly with a FE POTUS. I hate that these are the facts. But we've mgmt to win in '28 PortTack Dec 2024 #130

Surely there must be another 70-80 something we can run instead. Cobalt Violet Dec 2024 #2

There are plenty of young people we can run. People that haven't lost 2 runs for President. Autumn Dec 2024 #81

If I recall correctly, Biden lost twice before he won ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #115

Biden ran for president four times. I knew he would beat trump in 2020 and had his Autumn Dec 2024 #117

Okay, so he had already struck out three times before he went up to bat and finally won ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #118

And Biden won when it counted. End of story. Autumn Dec 2024 #122

Principles are sorely lacking these days. ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #123

They sure are. Another thing that is lacking these days is some people's inability to hear Autumn Dec 2024 #124

As if there will be elections. onecaliberal Dec 2024 #4

Good. She ran a great campaign. mcar Dec 2024 #5

Harris missed on one item at140 Dec 2024 #77

The campaign knew that question was coming and still weren't prepared for it MichMan Dec 2024 #83

The only answer that would have helped is if she said she opposed the Transgender rights JI7 Dec 2024 #92

It wasn't Biden's views that were used against her, it was her own statements from 2020 MichMan Dec 2024 #101

And putting filthy neocons like Liz Cheney front and center ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #116

I think you are right on at140 Dec 2024 #152

That was a major reason for losing Polybius Dec 2024 #127

That's a hard pass for me. tritsofme Dec 2024 #6

I think it has been proven lynintenn Dec 2024 #7

Unfortunately, I think you are sadly right. I loved both candidates that we put out into the field, and still... SWBTATTReg Dec 2024 #35

Charisma. maxsolomon Dec 2024 #8

Sure, if she wins the primary. In It to Win It Dec 2024 #9

I think this is the realistic view. Kamala did the best she could in terrible circumstances but see what 2028 looks... dutch777 Dec 2024 #102

Yes. I didn't like her debates in 2019. They were cringy. She would roll her eyes stuff like that. LeftInTX Dec 2024 #134

She already lost to the worst Republican ever Shrek Dec 2024 #10

He's the worst in our eyes. maxsolomon Dec 2024 #121

Anybody blaming Harris for losing a race Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #11

I don't blame her democrattotheend Dec 2024 #146

Voters have proven they're shallow and easily deceived Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #149

No, no, no. Are they insane? pinkstarburst Dec 2024 #12

depends on how she spends the next 4 yrs. mopinko Dec 2024 #13

Gov of Cali - Newsom for prez lame54 Dec 2024 #14

Nope for me FoggyLake Dec 2024 #15

The real blame should be the Talabangelical married straight white males. Crowman2009 Dec 2024 #16

That orange shit bag ran a campaign that pleased his electorate. Harris didn't. Autumn Dec 2024 #82

They couldn't BigMin28 Dec 2024 #103

Sorry, no we don't. Center Left Dec 2024 #17

When President Michelle Obama... Escape Dec 2024 #18

Michelle Obama would rather eat glass than work in politics. n/t intheflow Dec 2024 #38

I don't know why people keep bringing up Michelle Obama, who has said over and over Ocelot II Dec 2024 #126

No Meowmee Dec 2024 #19

How does a move to the center bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #23

If he can win, great Meowmee Dec 2024 #29

How's a move to the left ReRe Dec 2024 #68

Flat no Sympthsical Dec 2024 #20

I doubt focus groups will provide a boost to this idea bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #21

Pelosi/Connolly 28, amirite?! dchill Dec 2024 #22

we need new blood PedroXimenez Dec 2024 #78

Lolol Celerity Dec 2024 #132

Connolly's too young. Steny Hoyer can be her VP. He will turn a 'young' 90 a few months after being sworn in. Celerity Dec 2024 #131

How many times does Adlai Stevenson have to lose? Tarzanrock Dec 2024 #24

Who exactly is the Uber-left? displacedvermoter Dec 2024 #32

Ask yourself this ... Tarzanrock Dec 2024 #58

You consider Harris Uber-left? You.must have a pretty narrow displacedvermoter Dec 2024 #67

Same with Hillary Clinton. How can people say we can't win with someone "uber left"... thesquanderer Dec 2024 #99

"uber-left" might be referring to Tony West and David Plouffe PedroXimenez Dec 2024 #63

Sounds about right displacedvermoter Dec 2024 #66

"The problem with the left in this country" ? ReRe Dec 2024 #73

Cool that your daughter wrote it mainer Dec 2024 #25

Yep! I'am.... JoeOtterbein Dec 2024 #28

Kamala would make a great president, but this country doesn't want that. patphil Dec 2024 #26

Works for me jeaps Dec 2024 #27

Something tells me the article is click bait. nycbos Dec 2024 #30

Unelectable unfortunately. No woman candidate will succeed in 2028 Arazi Dec 2024 #31

I think a different woman could democrattotheend Dec 2024 #147

Oy vey Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #34

Too soon for me. I am just trying to survive bronxiteforever Dec 2024 #36

Well, fuck, why not just run HRC again? intheflow Dec 2024 #37

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2028 will be about the future Renew Deal Dec 2024 #43

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lol Renew Deal Dec 2024 #55

Sure, I'll also always vote for our candidate. intheflow Dec 2024 #45

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Before the fake email controversy, she was plenty popular. StevieM Dec 2024 #49

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But she was also among the most hated. intheflow Dec 2024 #98

My point is that when she was Secretary of State, she had sky high approval/favorability numbers. StevieM Dec 2024 #125

She had sky-high approval ratings from Dems. intheflow Dec 2024 #136

According to this article, and the graph showing her poll numbers, she was sky high in 2010. StevieM Dec 2024 #143

Independents are not a broken out in the graph. intheflow Dec 2024 #145

Yes, crazy to think that someone who lost an election could run again and win! Oh wait... W_HAMILTON Dec 2024 #84

I see what you did there... cadoman Dec 2024 #100

I'm hoping she is my next Governor obamanut2012 Dec 2024 #40

I don't blame her, but we need a vigorous primary Renew Deal Dec 2024 #41

She can't out-liberal a crowded field. Iggo Dec 2024 #90

We need a healthy and robust Primary campaign in 28... WarGamer Dec 2024 #42

We needed it in 2024 Martin Eden Dec 2024 #94

The US is too misogynistic Bettie Dec 2024 #44

Hope she runs... Mike Nelson Dec 2024 #47

Way too soon. Raven123 Dec 2024 #51

Harris rso Dec 2024 #52

Because Joe didn't get out until that terrible moment in the first debate with Trump, Harris ran with little to no time CTyankee Dec 2024 #53

I really like her. She is a breath of fresh air and aligned with my values. Make it so. As VP/ CA AG she has the cred Evolve Dammit Dec 2024 #56

Dems should choose a young, peace-oriented candidate for 2028. C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #57

Bad Idea Falcon101 Dec 2024 #59

While, to me, she's officially now my best President we never had gemini_liberal Dec 2024 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 2024 #62

Maybe the 3rd time will be the charm. By 2032 she will be almost 70, so just leaving her 'young & inexperienced' years, Celerity Dec 2024 #141

Let her enter the primaries, heckles65 Dec 2024 #64

no point in blaming her PedroXimenez Dec 2024 #65

I really like Harris but tishaLA Dec 2024 #69

I do! I want Kamala as our candidate. And she should start holding rallies this coming February Greybnk48 Dec 2024 #70

It was a mistake thinking a black women doc03 Dec 2024 #71

Please define "many". ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #72

NO thanks. 👎 nt Raine Dec 2024 #74

Gretchen Whitmer is a rock star liberalmediaaddict Dec 2024 #75

I don't. LisaL Dec 2024 #76

Harris did a great job Wild blueberry Dec 2024 #79

She lost a primary and as a sitting VP she lost a presidential race during a great economy. Autumn Dec 2024 #80

The economy was very good in '68 when VP Humphrey lost Kaleva Dec 2024 #95

Nothing is like it was in 1968. Not politics, not the media, the economy, not America, not the people. Autumn Dec 2024 #109

So what do you base your opinion on then? Kaleva Dec 2024 #112

I'm not talking about Gore, not talking about Humphry. I was talking about Harris. Autumn Dec 2024 #113

My opinion, she lost because of Biden's very high negatives Kaleva Dec 2024 #120

She has learned from her mistakes: let's do it townie Dec 2024 #85

I'm begging top party officials TheFarseer Dec 2024 #86

I don't blame her, but I don't want her back either. krawhitham Dec 2024 #87

Trump led Biden in the polls for at least a year before Joe dropped out andym Dec 2024 #88

Democratic Party officials are just being diplomatic - they don't feel it's necessary to denounce something Midwestern Democrat Dec 2024 #91

She wouldn't have Biden's high negatives to counter in a '28 run Kaleva Dec 2024 #96

We had arguably two of the most qualified women running in 2016/2024. Sadly, the country isn't ready. Noel Kums Dec 2024 #97

She has a calming sane spirit Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #105

Hard pass flamingdem Dec 2024 #106

I would also love to see Newsom Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #107

Really? BBbats Dec 2024 #108

No. alarimer Dec 2024 #110

Harris ran a good campaign and thrashed the con man at the debate Mysterian Dec 2024 #114

Maybe Hillary can be her running mate bif Dec 2024 #119

She was an awesome candidate....I'd support her in 2028. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2024 #128

She would have my support again if she chooses to run again. Quiet Em Dec 2024 #139

Hell no Polybius Dec 2024 #129

Sorry. I don't like Gavin. He comes across as cocky LeftInTX Dec 2024 #135

I respect that opinion Polybius Dec 2024 #140

If people are nostalgic for the Biden years by 2028 then sure Rstrstx Dec 2024 #133

Can't we get someone who supports single payer? redqueen Dec 2024 #137

I keep hearing that she lost because of racism and sexism. Why would things be any different four years from now? jalan48 Dec 2024 #142

I think she lost because of Biden's very high negatives. Kaleva Dec 2024 #153

Yes, I have a feeling the racism and misogyny will disappear if she decides to run again. jalan48 Dec 2024 #155

She inspired millions in a brief amount of time Politicub Dec 2024 #144

No we don't bif Dec 2024 #148

She was a hit with the base, IMHO Kaleva Dec 2024 #154