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zeemike

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182. Let's face it, we are easy targets for manipulation.

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:25 PM

Dec 2012

We have morals and we care about people and they can use that against us and they are doing just that.

they win either way...if we start a witch hunt to purge ourselves of gun nuts we will be attacking ourselves and it don't matter if it is just or unjust....a house divided cannot stand...and it don't make a shit whether the divisiveness is justified or not.

I assume we have right wing plants here on DU that want to stir up trouble...no question in my mind about it...but I would never make the mistake of trying to figure out who they are and start accusing them...that don't work and it sets up a dynamic where every thing in the world becomes a litmus test of right and wrong and we start tearing yourself apart over it....and again we lose.

I urge us all not to over react...but that is seldom satisfying to our emotions....and probably ignored.

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+1000.... and if you need some threadlocker it's in my sig. n/t 2on2u Dec 2012 #1

meh, the more things change, the more they stay the same hfojvt Dec 2012 #318

I don't/didn't want it locked but the op mentioned it himself... my bad. n/t 2on2u Dec 2012 #321

I say close the gungeon and ban anyone left touting RW/NRA/gun apologia. morningfog Dec 2012 #2

Agree. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #9

I second that! 99Forever Dec 2012 #21

Totally agree Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #23

Agree RetroLounge Dec 2012 #29

+1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #50

I belong to the gungeon, and own guns and HATE the NRA, when a group can allow Ted Nugent.... Logical Dec 2012 #64

You are one of the worst offenders today. You are an embarrassment to DU. morningfog Dec 2012 #68

What have I said that is wrong? Quit whining and just ignore me. Logical Dec 2012 #75

No, I will keep calling you out. morningfog Dec 2012 #78

Please post your solution to this problem. I cannot wait to read it. Logical Dec 2012 #82

Why should I? You can't change someone's religion. morningfog Dec 2012 #86

In other words you just want to complain and not solve the issue. Perfect!! Logical Dec 2012 #88

Get lost. morningfog Dec 2012 #90

LOL. Do you have any actual information about the problem? Or just want to insult people? Logical Dec 2012 #95

Pearls before swine. morningfog Dec 2012 #100

Seriously. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #104

LOL, not sure if you are serious. Incoherent reply's. Nonsense. weird. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #105

I genuinely hope you're catching a paycheck for this. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #107

I am quite serious. You are simply not worth engaging in actual discussion. morningfog Dec 2012 #116

Just like ALL Christians are part of the problem SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #151

Oh boy! Another one. All out from under your rocks. morningfog Dec 2012 #154

If that means I'm part of your imaginary problem LanternWaste Dec 2012 #195

Pretty much sums it, and the OP, right up. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #199

Seriously, lets here your solution!! SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #145

Criticisng the gun culture that facilitated this is crying? morningfog Dec 2012 #149

Ah,...but we COULD have control if we actually TRIED. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #188

LOL. JimDandy Dec 2012 #222

You regularly post this, then ignore all possible solutions. n/t godai Dec 2012 #97

Name ONE that I ignored? How do you remove 300 million guns from being used by a nut? Logical Dec 2012 #101

One at a fucking time. Lex Dec 2012 #103

Here is the problem from people like you..... Logical Dec 2012 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author godai Dec 2012 #122

Make it illegal to own any semi-automatic weapon. dchill Dec 2012 #161

So only single shot guns? Collect the rest? Collect 300 million guns? Logical Dec 2012 #164

Why would you have to collect any guns? Chemisse Dec 2012 #204

OK, I see that point. But my worry is the 300 million guns out there. The black market would.... Logical Dec 2012 #208

It would be wrong to collect guns that people bought in then-lawful purchases. Chemisse Dec 2012 #239

You do realize that AlexSatan Dec 2012 #320

So 150,000 gun crimes a year is acceptable? Kalidurga Dec 2012 #328

Of course not AlexSatan Dec 2012 #333

They are already illegal... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #335

That's my point AlexSatan Dec 2012 #338

Question UndahCovah Dec 2012 #189

Jon Stewart plantwomyn Dec 2012 #299

Now is EXACTLY the Time fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #304

Outlawing and eliminating guns is not a practical problem.... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #229

If you plan to completely disregard the Constitution. tritsofme Dec 2012 #256

Repealing the 2nd amendment. MNBrewer Dec 2012 #285

The constitution is not a problem at all, despite its recent revision... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #314

10 shot limit in all magazine & clips, turn in your old ones or jail & seized home.......... kooljerk666 Dec 2012 #292

Well duh. We remove them AlexSatan Dec 2012 #319

just go the fuck away. Please. (there, I was nice about it) DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #126

+1,000,000 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #235

+1,000,000,000,000 llmart Dec 2012 #240

Amen. The self justification of these people, on this day, is evil. Squinch Dec 2012 #259

1,000,000 underseasurveyor Dec 2012 #266

You claim to hate the NRA, but you carry their water for them every day. baldguy Dec 2012 #119

Wow, I love this argument, please show ONE post where I defend the NRA or where I have.... Logical Dec 2012 #129

You are the NRA poster boy. Except, you do it, maybe without even realizing it. morningfog Dec 2012 #225

+10000 heaven05 Dec 2012 #73

+++! byeya Dec 2012 #79

+1000 baldguy Dec 2012 #124

adjustment.... please bear with me... keroro gunsou Dec 2012 #157

Of course you are correct - free health care & expensive guns for a free, safe & sane society baldguy Dec 2012 #167

yes. never quite understood what they were doing here, anyway wyldwolf Dec 2012 #174

yes! robinlynne Dec 2012 #176

WTH?!? lbrtbell Dec 2012 #202

We don't tolerate anti-choice, homphobia, sexism, racism. We don't need lockstep, morningfog Dec 2012 #207

You're right about the last three... Ter Dec 2012 #297

Exactly ! "The DU where people could debate freely." Then egotists fucked it up Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2012 #220

I defend their right to an opinion, but not to a gun. Their gun is violating my rights. Squinch Dec 2012 #257

What's stupid is not listening to reason lbrtbell Dec 2012 #279

Yes, banning guns WILL stop people from committing gun slaughter. Your argument is ridiculous Squinch Dec 2012 #298

+1 nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #332

Agree. wtmusic Dec 2012 #217

You know, that'd probably work to reduce a significant amount of this crap. nt patrice Dec 2012 #241

This is a great idea. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #249

Agree Squinch Dec 2012 #253

agreed. n/t NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #254

Sounds good to me Scootaloo Dec 2012 #268

The insinuation of NRA talking points here over the years... villager Dec 2012 #3

Yes, yes it has. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #250

The insinuation of all sorts of right wing talking points is astonishing... TransitJohn Dec 2012 #323

It goes with the uptick in the "disdaining snark" posts, I think villager Dec 2012 #336

Amen, brother Will! DoBotherMe Dec 2012 #4

Coming out of hiding to say... JuniperLea Dec 2012 #5

Wow. Seeing you posting this. Carries allot of weight. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #289

Amen, Brother. Thank You. (nt) Paladin Dec 2012 #6

FnA d_b Dec 2012 #7

Amen. jsr Dec 2012 #8

Purge the gun humpers. Please. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #10

Thank you loyalkydem Dec 2012 #11

rape. Whisp Dec 2012 #12

I do feel as if I'm too often looking for the pony in the manure pile. nolabear Dec 2012 #13

From my cold dead hands WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #17

+1000 renie408 Dec 2012 #14

As I said elsewhere, that China story was the first thing I heard this morning on NPR. Robb Dec 2012 #15

I know you don't know me and you think I posted upaloopa Dec 2012 #16

K&R 99Forever Dec 2012 #18

I'm new here AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #19

Welcome to DU, AldoLeopold. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #194

Thank you! AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #212

This isn't Liberal Underground lbrtbell Dec 2012 #280

this is kind of liberal underground wilt the stilt Dec 2012 #291

The Admin's Mission Statement does not agree with you. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #303

I'll be honest with you AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #327

that sounds like running away from a problem hfojvt Dec 2012 #322

No AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #324

if we cannot fight and win inside the forum, then we cannot fight effectively outside hfojvt Dec 2012 #334

I alerted on 2 of those threads, they were both allowed to stay. Couldn't agree fucking more with u Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #20

So the DU disagrees with your alerts, so maybe you are wrong! Logical Dec 2012 #25

Maybe you shouldn't preach to me on a day that I'm in mourning. Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #31

I am mourning also. But still can be rational and discuss it. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #39

That's so very sincere Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #46

The soulless gunworshippers find their voice at the worst possible moments. baldguy Dec 2012 #128

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #132

Mourning why? Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #178

Here we go again..... Logical Dec 2012 #180

Yes you do go again and again. Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #183

Find one post where I promote more guns. I will wait. Logical Dec 2012 #185

"emotion instead of reason" is a CLASSIC NRA TALKING POINT... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #290

This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #34

THere are too many gun humpers on DU, making it suck and sitting on juries. morningfog Dec 2012 #60

So the randomly picked jurys just happened to be loaded with gun nuts twice? Logical Dec 2012 #71

There are a lot of you, so yes, it is possible. morningfog Dec 2012 #77

LOL, you don't put much thought into posts. Classic. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #87

I've Been On A Jury Dozens of Times And I Don't Own A Gun ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #301

Juries can make their decision for any of no reason. morningfog Dec 2012 #308

Nah. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #227

If you are referring to this douche, he was TS'd SunSeeker Dec 2012 #281

No, this one: Hissyspit Dec 2012 #283

Wow, yes, lets ban anyone who disagrees with WilliamPitt! How about you do this....... Logical Dec 2012 #22

You make it harder to own guns? renie408 Dec 2012 #32

You still have 300 million guns out there already. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #36

Bombs are so much safer lbrtbell Dec 2012 #282

Oh that's an easy one: the DP for any gun owner who fails to secure their guns and then they are kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #41

Wow, not a liberal wants the death penalty to be expanded. Even for non-murderers. Perfect!! Logical Dec 2012 #49

There is no requirement here that I oppose the DP. Plenty of DUers support its limited use. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #89

So the murderer is less guilty than the non-secured gun owner? Logical Dec 2012 #98

Can I make the same 'BAN THEM' call for people who support the death penalty? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #135

Wow. Codeine Dec 2012 #175

Make it harder to get the guns ragemage Dec 2012 #48

This shooter might have just used handguns only. And there is no difference between a.... Logical Dec 2012 #55

There is a big difference. ragemage Dec 2012 #66

At the risk of incurring the OP's wrath as a 'nra water carrier', the police are saying AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #136

Today...you had to post this...today. n/t godai Dec 2012 #56

They care more about their weapon than people. Disgusting. morningfog Dec 2012 #65

Look in the mirror, you are part of the problem. morningfog Dec 2012 #63

How am I the problem. Because I want to know how you plan on stopping a random nut from killing? Logical Dec 2012 #81

You only care about that is not a threat to your toys. morningfog Dec 2012 #84

More nonsense from you. Perfect!! n-t Logical Dec 2012 #92

I can go all night. morningfog Dec 2012 #93

Yes, I believe you can post non-informative posts all night. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #96

Since you are so damn 'logical'... renie408 Dec 2012 #112

Glad you asked...... Logical Dec 2012 #123

Oh, for chrissakes, it's hard so we shouldn't even try?? renie408 Dec 2012 #295

What I want to know is... primavera Dec 2012 #134

If you could today remove all the guns in the USA and ban the sales of them then I think..... Logical Dec 2012 #141

Yet other countries have all managed it primavera Dec 2012 #159

How am I blocking anything. I look forward to you finding 10 senators, much less 50 that propose.... Logical Dec 2012 #221

You're blocking through your voting behavior primavera Dec 2012 #245

The problem will take time to solve. Banning assault rifles and hand guns is a start. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #218

You made a very good point, Raksha Dec 2012 #168

so.much. this! bench scientist Dec 2012 #294

Not some "random" nut - some random GUN-NUT. What's your plan on stopping such a person? baldguy Dec 2012 #137

What makes you think this person was a gun-nut? I don't have a plan to remove all the guns.... Logical Dec 2012 #142

Thank you for your confession. You see, the rest of us compassionate, thoughtful LIBERALS baldguy Dec 2012 #163

"One that actually works in nearly every country it's been tried"...... Logical Dec 2012 #165

Wayne LaPierre & Ted Nugent are thirsty. They're calling for you, waterboy. baldguy Dec 2012 #169

OK, I get it, you have nothing. Also....here is some of my feelings about the NRA..... Logical Dec 2012 #172

20 dead children baldguy Dec 2012 #177

Wow, you need a nap. You have anger issues. And no facts about anything. Logical Dec 2012 #191

Anger is a normal response when 20 children are senselessly slaughtered. baldguy Dec 2012 #198

Please show ONE post where I support this shooting! Wow, you are out of control. Logical Dec 2012 #200

Spare me your histrionics. No one is being fooled by it anymore. baldguy Dec 2012 #210

LOL, typical response from someone who has not spent 10 minutes thinking about a problem. Logical Dec 2012 #211

At least I realize THERE IS A PROBLEM when 20 innocent children die needlessly. baldguy Dec 2012 #213

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #216

You're right there obviously can be no plan to "confiscate" all the guns but stricter xtraxritical Dec 2012 #223

Allow us then an objective and comprehensive solution to do just that LanternWaste Dec 2012 #117

It's impossible to do *anything* about 300 million guns..... BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #148

You answer the problem in your own thread. Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #179

The guns may have been legally purchased... ReRe Dec 2012 #186

Where do you get the 40% are not? Private sales? They are legal. more info please. Logical Dec 2012 #187

I'd certainly enjoy listening to the objective solution you propose LanternWaste Dec 2012 #197

How about health care and mental help for all americans? Logical Dec 2012 #201

Look it up. Why didn't you answer my questions? ReRe Dec 2012 #231

I got banned from the gungeon bongbong Dec 2012 #24

No, because the Chinese guy is good for gun control jeff47 Dec 2012 #26

welcome to The Big Tent�, William.. frylock Dec 2012 #27

yes sir, i do. spanone Dec 2012 #28

I am so with you on this. Whovian Dec 2012 #30

The gungeon is there to contain this madness. onehandle Dec 2012 #33

Yes, ban them. n/t godai Dec 2012 #47

Yes, ban them. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #331

Yep. And gun nuttery is NOT a liberal cause. I do not understand why we tolerate those kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #35

Difference between then and now is... Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #37

The China school knife attack is on the front page of CNN now and many other websites today... Tx4obama Dec 2012 #38

You're not that stupid. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #40

I do not know what you mean. Please explain. n/t Tx4obama Dec 2012 #42

. . . . . . . . . . WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #52

I was asking you a serious question. I do not know what the problem with the China story is. Tx4obama Dec 2012 #58

*sigh* OK... WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #74

Apology accepted. All I know is that ... Tx4obama Dec 2012 #85

(((hug))) WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #91

But how would you figure out intent? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #106

By asking. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #110

You have quite a vocabulary. virgogal Dec 2012 #127

Need help with the spelling bee? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #131

You are correct, he does. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #284

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #307

The article is LBN. Fine. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #111

Good luck nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #43

Agree gademocrat7 Dec 2012 #44

+1 Dalai_1 Dec 2012 #45

Thanks, Will. nt s-cubed Dec 2012 #51

+28 jsr Dec 2012 #53

I'm new here secondvariety Dec 2012 #54

It was. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #57

All the gun lovers should go home tonight and TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #59

Yep malaise Dec 2012 #61

I know emotions are running high right now... antigone382 Dec 2012 #62

You're breaking my fucking heart. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #80

No, I explicitly said that posting the story as a political false equivalency was crap. antigone382 Dec 2012 #102

Let's face it, we are easy targets for manipulation. zeemike Dec 2012 #182

20 children were slaughtered today..... llmart Dec 2012 #244

And shutting down the gungeon will some how prevent that in the future? zeemike Dec 2012 #269

This event has proven beyond any doubt that gun advocacy is an irresponsible position, and Squinch Dec 2012 #302

I agree. llmart Dec 2012 #309

Good God, I know! The sheer volume of idiotic gun spin today is nauseating. They're scuttling Squinch Dec 2012 #313

And Iraq has proven beyond any doubt that war advocacy is an irresponsible position. zeemike Dec 2012 #310

Spin away. Twenty 5-year-olds are still dead. Gun control is not thought police. It's common sense Squinch Dec 2012 #312

No gun control is gun control zeemike Dec 2012 #316

Spin, spin, spin. And twenty 5-year-olds are STILL dead. Squinch Dec 2012 #317

It is not spin it is reality. zeemike Dec 2012 #337

I posted about the Chinese guy with the knife TomClash Dec 2012 #67

I think the reference was to folks like this douchebag... SunSeeker Dec 2012 #272

K & R Spryguy Dec 2012 #69

+1000 heaven05 Dec 2012 #70

DU has changed so much, I only stay around because of people like you... onecent Dec 2012 #72

Who is your avatar image? fadedrose Dec 2012 #76

A version of this: WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #83

Amen n/t MANative Dec 2012 #94

DU - wise and otherwise underpants Dec 2012 #99

To be honest DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #108

I empathize with the impulse. Can't agree with the sentiment. DirkGently Dec 2012 #109

Spare me, Dirk. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #120

Your example doesn't support that. "Knives are just like guns" isn't exactly the nadir DirkGently Dec 2012 #138

"...over what remains essentially a political disagreement..." WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #143

Why don't you characterize it, then? DirkGently Dec 2012 #190

consider to whom you give aid and comfort. they will use you carelessly tiny elvis Dec 2012 #263

A reasonable response joe_sixpack Dec 2012 #162

Willian Pitt you are the ONE who Duval Dec 2012 #113

It goes beyond the gun issue NWHarkness Dec 2012 #115

Did you see the dozens of attacks on Obama about Susan Rice yesterday? Had ALL KINDS of "mistakes" patrice Dec 2012 #233

In my over ten years here I never banned a single poster Throckmorton Dec 2012 #118

I'm with you. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #121

I remember too. Flame wars were about benign crap LanternWaste Dec 2012 #125

I remember. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #130

Let the purge begin joe_sixpack Dec 2012 #133

Pry yourself off your cross. You are NOT a victim today. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #139

I have never in my life joe_sixpack Dec 2012 #146

Never? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #150

"responsible gun owners" is an oxymoron. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #252

I'm willing to bet this guy's mother thought she was a responsible gun owner. Squinch Dec 2012 #264

I'm a gun owner and I am fucking sick of the gun nuts. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #326

I've been here just as long, Pitt Nevernose Dec 2012 #140

I agree 100% amuse bouche Dec 2012 #144

What you said Will! The Delicate Flowers are out in force defending their weapons of choice neverforget Dec 2012 #147

On a music forum, a guy actually said he could have run them over with a truck. shenmue Dec 2012 #152

Thank you for posting this, WilliamPitt. n/t secondwind Dec 2012 #153

Yes, I remember DU. displacedtexan Dec 2012 #155

K&R LongTomH Dec 2012 #156

Thank you, Will. liberalmuse Dec 2012 #158

There's a reason there's a gungeon. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #160

I agree....and its not just guns and violence here HuskiesHowls Dec 2012 #166

Been reading since 2001. Ash_F Dec 2012 #170

Yeah, I hear you. AAO Dec 2012 #171

I'm gonna wear out the ignore button today. johnp3907 Dec 2012 #173

+ 100. You gotta ask yourself Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #181

Wow Will, Im sorry to see you advocate this AlecBGreen Dec 2012 #184

I am a gunsmith by trade Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #192

I leave this place for 4 hours and now we have Chinese with Knives? WTF? LynneSin Dec 2012 #193

I remember. Solly Mack Dec 2012 #196

Gee Will, a purge of gun owners because they aren't allowed to be democrats? JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #203

Yep, I do. Right, Will. juajen Dec 2012 #205

After DU consideration, I agree with you Will. Indeed, this thread has made your point. WheelWalker Dec 2012 #206

K&R The dead children do not care about the size of the gun or the caliber. Lint Head Dec 2012 #209

I agree with you EXCEPT Chemisse Dec 2012 #214

Aw hell Flatpicker Dec 2012 #215

+1,000,000,000,000,000 shcrane71 Dec 2012 #219

With you William Pitt! Did you see that travesty of a cross post from Freepville? We've been patrice Dec 2012 #224

You mean this.... SunSeeker Dec 2012 #274

No. This one: patrice Dec 2012 #276

Yuck. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #277

I do Danmel Dec 2012 #226

Well said!! Buddaman Dec 2012 #228

Amen. That story about the knife guy in China was posted how many times today??? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #230

Look at the Susan Rice stuff that ran yesterday. Almost all of it, total HORSECRAP. patrice Dec 2012 #234

Shame more on the jurors who vote to keep it Hissyspit Dec 2012 #246

Agreed proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #265

The one I saw joined DU tonight to post it. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #273

From DU2, to DU3 this place has moved to the right...... Hotler Dec 2012 #232

Part of the problem is that some of that is calling itself "the Left" and acting like the Reich and patrice Dec 2012 #237

Shit! That is fucked up. I have not read about that yet. N/t Hotler Dec 2012 #247

You have to look at the number of times what styles itself as "the Left" either is substantially patrice Dec 2012 #251

I could not find any information on this subject whatsoever, Zorra Dec 2012 #300

I can assure you that they are. The questions are about how best to achieve authentic CHANGE & not patrice Dec 2012 #329

Please forgive me if I don't take your word for it; I am a big fan of facts and proof, and Zorra Dec 2012 #339

k, so you FAVOR the unlimited flow of weapons into 3rd world countries as long as they aren't drones patrice Dec 2012 #340

Whoa, what in the f**k are you talking about? Your last 3 posts make no sense. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #344

Which also means you favor political wars of choice responding to the flow of weapons into those patrice Dec 2012 #341

So, what do you think of the UN? & How do you explain DK HARMING the UN this way? nt patrice Dec 2012 #342

And yes there's lots of important information we don't & CAN'T know, but here's Rand's PLEDGE of patrice Dec 2012 #343

WTF? What does that have to do with Dennis Kucinich? Nothing whatsoever. Zorra Dec 2012 #346

I AM WITH YOU. llmart Dec 2012 #236

The guns thing makes it obvious, but it's not just guns. DU has a griefer problem. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #238

I agree nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #262

Can we organize somehow? Boycott? nt patrice Dec 2012 #242

K & R TroglodyteScholar Dec 2012 #243

And to all those folks who have a concealed carry to go grocery shopping . . . kaiden Dec 2012 #248

Speak truth to power, fellow Grandma! n/t cynatnite Dec 2012 #260

+1000 Wind Dancer Dec 2012 #286

K&R n/t lupinella Dec 2012 #255

I'm sick and tired of gun nuts whining about their fucking rights when children are dead... cynatnite Dec 2012 #258

Recommend #224 H2O Man Dec 2012 #261

In addition to the people who used the Chinese knife guy to justify gun laws, can we also Squinch Dec 2012 #267

How about banning the "cars kill people too" folks like this douche.... SunSeeker Dec 2012 #278

YES! These people are so irresponsible, and today that kind of irresponsibility is shown for what Squinch Dec 2012 #296

Yes. I remember DU. It was my refuge from the GWB era, the place where I came to feel sane. October Dec 2012 #270

Yep, uncontrolled trolls exploiting the big tent doctrine and RW morons jsr Dec 2012 #293

One of the first thing I noticed about DU was the plethora of gun porn posts MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #271

Maybe we need some changes around here, or someplace worthwhile to go instead Coyotl Dec 2012 #275

The problem of gun violence can be addressed from many angles King_Klonopin Dec 2012 #287

If you feel that you need a gun to be safe... world wide wally Dec 2012 #288

A BASIC CALL TO CONSCIOUSNESS Zorra Dec 2012 #305

Start your own website FreakinDJ Dec 2012 #306

I originally recced the article you wrote about, because I thought it was a discussion of LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #311

Right on. sarcasmo Dec 2012 #315

It seems like the 2008 Election brought a lot of non-progressive jerks here. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #325

I agree and I say basta! Enough! N/t Ninga Dec 2012 #330

I DU... And I... Aw Fuck It... WillyT Dec 2012 #345