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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:17 PM

Dec 2012

As much as I believe the gun problem needs to be handled, I don't see the point of banning anybody who disagrees with me.
I want to hear the other side because it helps me understand how they think. As long as the discourse is civil.

I know I mentioned the Chinese issue today because I was more concerned with the intent of the person who wants to do violence to children more than the tools they use to accomplish it. Hope that is understood and not having people think I am advocating gun usage?
I'll be the 1st one to admit that I don't know how to fix the violence in america.
Don't own a gun, probably will never own one, but have thought of it before. I'm scared to be out knowing that someone else can pull a trigger and kill me or my loved ones.

Here's where I'm having a problem though.
I'm not feeling comfortable that if we banned all firearms tomorrow, we would be safer.
Those law abiding people who will turn in their weapons may be outnumbered by those who don't. I don't think that the LEO's we have will be able to prevent those with weapons from preying on those who don't have them.

Basically, I'm scared to take the 1st step knowing that we don't have the infrastructure (in this case, Law Enforcement staff) available to prevent murders from happening rather than punishing them after they happen.
Our gun culture is so entrenched that I don't know what to do. I just know that killing kids is unacceptable and something has to be done.

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I REMEMBER DU [View all] WilliamPitt Dec 2012 OP

+1000.... and if you need some threadlocker it's in my sig. n/t 2on2u Dec 2012 #1

meh, the more things change, the more they stay the same hfojvt Dec 2012 #318

I don't/didn't want it locked but the op mentioned it himself... my bad. n/t 2on2u Dec 2012 #321

I say close the gungeon and ban anyone left touting RW/NRA/gun apologia. morningfog Dec 2012 #2

Agree. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #9

I second that! 99Forever Dec 2012 #21

Totally agree Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #23

Agree RetroLounge Dec 2012 #29

+1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #50

I belong to the gungeon, and own guns and HATE the NRA, when a group can allow Ted Nugent.... Logical Dec 2012 #64

You are one of the worst offenders today. You are an embarrassment to DU. morningfog Dec 2012 #68

What have I said that is wrong? Quit whining and just ignore me. Logical Dec 2012 #75

No, I will keep calling you out. morningfog Dec 2012 #78

Please post your solution to this problem. I cannot wait to read it. Logical Dec 2012 #82

Why should I? You can't change someone's religion. morningfog Dec 2012 #86

In other words you just want to complain and not solve the issue. Perfect!! Logical Dec 2012 #88

Get lost. morningfog Dec 2012 #90

LOL. Do you have any actual information about the problem? Or just want to insult people? Logical Dec 2012 #95

Pearls before swine. morningfog Dec 2012 #100

Seriously. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #104

LOL, not sure if you are serious. Incoherent reply's. Nonsense. weird. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #105

I genuinely hope you're catching a paycheck for this. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #107

I am quite serious. You are simply not worth engaging in actual discussion. morningfog Dec 2012 #116

Just like ALL Christians are part of the problem SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #151

Oh boy! Another one. All out from under your rocks. morningfog Dec 2012 #154

If that means I'm part of your imaginary problem LanternWaste Dec 2012 #195

Pretty much sums it, and the OP, right up. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #199

Seriously, lets here your solution!! SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #145

Criticisng the gun culture that facilitated this is crying? morningfog Dec 2012 #149

Ah,...but we COULD have control if we actually TRIED. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #188

LOL. JimDandy Dec 2012 #222

You regularly post this, then ignore all possible solutions. n/t godai Dec 2012 #97

Name ONE that I ignored? How do you remove 300 million guns from being used by a nut? Logical Dec 2012 #101

One at a fucking time. Lex Dec 2012 #103

Here is the problem from people like you..... Logical Dec 2012 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author godai Dec 2012 #122

Make it illegal to own any semi-automatic weapon. dchill Dec 2012 #161

So only single shot guns? Collect the rest? Collect 300 million guns? Logical Dec 2012 #164

Why would you have to collect any guns? Chemisse Dec 2012 #204

OK, I see that point. But my worry is the 300 million guns out there. The black market would.... Logical Dec 2012 #208

It would be wrong to collect guns that people bought in then-lawful purchases. Chemisse Dec 2012 #239

You do realize that AlexSatan Dec 2012 #320

So 150,000 gun crimes a year is acceptable? Kalidurga Dec 2012 #328

Of course not AlexSatan Dec 2012 #333

They are already illegal... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #335

That's my point AlexSatan Dec 2012 #338

Question UndahCovah Dec 2012 #189

Jon Stewart plantwomyn Dec 2012 #299

Now is EXACTLY the Time fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #304

Outlawing and eliminating guns is not a practical problem.... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #229

If you plan to completely disregard the Constitution. tritsofme Dec 2012 #256

Repealing the 2nd amendment. MNBrewer Dec 2012 #285

The constitution is not a problem at all, despite its recent revision... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #314

10 shot limit in all magazine & clips, turn in your old ones or jail & seized home.......... kooljerk666 Dec 2012 #292

Well duh. We remove them AlexSatan Dec 2012 #319

just go the fuck away. Please. (there, I was nice about it) DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #126

+1,000,000 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #235

+1,000,000,000,000 llmart Dec 2012 #240

Amen. The self justification of these people, on this day, is evil. Squinch Dec 2012 #259

1,000,000 underseasurveyor Dec 2012 #266

You claim to hate the NRA, but you carry their water for them every day. baldguy Dec 2012 #119

Wow, I love this argument, please show ONE post where I defend the NRA or where I have.... Logical Dec 2012 #129

You are the NRA poster boy. Except, you do it, maybe without even realizing it. morningfog Dec 2012 #225

+10000 heaven05 Dec 2012 #73

+++! byeya Dec 2012 #79

+1000 baldguy Dec 2012 #124

adjustment.... please bear with me... keroro gunsou Dec 2012 #157

Of course you are correct - free health care & expensive guns for a free, safe & sane society baldguy Dec 2012 #167

yes. never quite understood what they were doing here, anyway wyldwolf Dec 2012 #174

yes! robinlynne Dec 2012 #176

WTH?!? lbrtbell Dec 2012 #202

We don't tolerate anti-choice, homphobia, sexism, racism. We don't need lockstep, morningfog Dec 2012 #207

You're right about the last three... Ter Dec 2012 #297

Exactly ! "The DU where people could debate freely." Then egotists fucked it up Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2012 #220

I defend their right to an opinion, but not to a gun. Their gun is violating my rights. Squinch Dec 2012 #257

What's stupid is not listening to reason lbrtbell Dec 2012 #279

Yes, banning guns WILL stop people from committing gun slaughter. Your argument is ridiculous Squinch Dec 2012 #298

+1 nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #332

Agree. wtmusic Dec 2012 #217

You know, that'd probably work to reduce a significant amount of this crap. nt patrice Dec 2012 #241

This is a great idea. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #249

Agree Squinch Dec 2012 #253

agreed. n/t NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #254

Sounds good to me Scootaloo Dec 2012 #268

The insinuation of NRA talking points here over the years... villager Dec 2012 #3

Yes, yes it has. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #250

The insinuation of all sorts of right wing talking points is astonishing... TransitJohn Dec 2012 #323

It goes with the uptick in the "disdaining snark" posts, I think villager Dec 2012 #336

Amen, brother Will! DoBotherMe Dec 2012 #4

Coming out of hiding to say... JuniperLea Dec 2012 #5

Wow. Seeing you posting this. Carries allot of weight. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #289

Amen, Brother. Thank You. (nt) Paladin Dec 2012 #6

FnA d_b Dec 2012 #7

Amen. jsr Dec 2012 #8

Purge the gun humpers. Please. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #10

Thank you loyalkydem Dec 2012 #11

rape. Whisp Dec 2012 #12

I do feel as if I'm too often looking for the pony in the manure pile. nolabear Dec 2012 #13

From my cold dead hands WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #17

+1000 renie408 Dec 2012 #14

As I said elsewhere, that China story was the first thing I heard this morning on NPR. Robb Dec 2012 #15

I know you don't know me and you think I posted upaloopa Dec 2012 #16

K&R 99Forever Dec 2012 #18

I'm new here AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #19

Welcome to DU, AldoLeopold. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #194

Thank you! AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #212

This isn't Liberal Underground lbrtbell Dec 2012 #280

this is kind of liberal underground wilt the stilt Dec 2012 #291

The Admin's Mission Statement does not agree with you. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #303

I'll be honest with you AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #327

that sounds like running away from a problem hfojvt Dec 2012 #322

No AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #324

if we cannot fight and win inside the forum, then we cannot fight effectively outside hfojvt Dec 2012 #334

I alerted on 2 of those threads, they were both allowed to stay. Couldn't agree fucking more with u Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #20

So the DU disagrees with your alerts, so maybe you are wrong! Logical Dec 2012 #25

Maybe you shouldn't preach to me on a day that I'm in mourning. Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #31

I am mourning also. But still can be rational and discuss it. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #39

That's so very sincere Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #46

The soulless gunworshippers find their voice at the worst possible moments. baldguy Dec 2012 #128

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #132

Mourning why? Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #178

Here we go again..... Logical Dec 2012 #180

Yes you do go again and again. Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #183

Find one post where I promote more guns. I will wait. Logical Dec 2012 #185

"emotion instead of reason" is a CLASSIC NRA TALKING POINT... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #290

This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #34

THere are too many gun humpers on DU, making it suck and sitting on juries. morningfog Dec 2012 #60

So the randomly picked jurys just happened to be loaded with gun nuts twice? Logical Dec 2012 #71

There are a lot of you, so yes, it is possible. morningfog Dec 2012 #77

LOL, you don't put much thought into posts. Classic. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #87

I've Been On A Jury Dozens of Times And I Don't Own A Gun ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #301

Juries can make their decision for any of no reason. morningfog Dec 2012 #308

Nah. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #227

If you are referring to this douche, he was TS'd SunSeeker Dec 2012 #281

No, this one: Hissyspit Dec 2012 #283

Wow, yes, lets ban anyone who disagrees with WilliamPitt! How about you do this....... Logical Dec 2012 #22

You make it harder to own guns? renie408 Dec 2012 #32

You still have 300 million guns out there already. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #36

Bombs are so much safer lbrtbell Dec 2012 #282

Oh that's an easy one: the DP for any gun owner who fails to secure their guns and then they are kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #41

Wow, not a liberal wants the death penalty to be expanded. Even for non-murderers. Perfect!! Logical Dec 2012 #49

There is no requirement here that I oppose the DP. Plenty of DUers support its limited use. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #89

So the murderer is less guilty than the non-secured gun owner? Logical Dec 2012 #98

Can I make the same 'BAN THEM' call for people who support the death penalty? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #135

Wow. Codeine Dec 2012 #175

Make it harder to get the guns ragemage Dec 2012 #48

This shooter might have just used handguns only. And there is no difference between a.... Logical Dec 2012 #55

There is a big difference. ragemage Dec 2012 #66

At the risk of incurring the OP's wrath as a 'nra water carrier', the police are saying AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #136

Today...you had to post this...today. n/t godai Dec 2012 #56

They care more about their weapon than people. Disgusting. morningfog Dec 2012 #65

Look in the mirror, you are part of the problem. morningfog Dec 2012 #63

How am I the problem. Because I want to know how you plan on stopping a random nut from killing? Logical Dec 2012 #81

You only care about that is not a threat to your toys. morningfog Dec 2012 #84

More nonsense from you. Perfect!! n-t Logical Dec 2012 #92

I can go all night. morningfog Dec 2012 #93

Yes, I believe you can post non-informative posts all night. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #96

Since you are so damn 'logical'... renie408 Dec 2012 #112

Glad you asked...... Logical Dec 2012 #123

Oh, for chrissakes, it's hard so we shouldn't even try?? renie408 Dec 2012 #295

What I want to know is... primavera Dec 2012 #134

If you could today remove all the guns in the USA and ban the sales of them then I think..... Logical Dec 2012 #141

Yet other countries have all managed it primavera Dec 2012 #159

How am I blocking anything. I look forward to you finding 10 senators, much less 50 that propose.... Logical Dec 2012 #221

You're blocking through your voting behavior primavera Dec 2012 #245

The problem will take time to solve. Banning assault rifles and hand guns is a start. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #218

You made a very good point, Raksha Dec 2012 #168

so.much. this! bench scientist Dec 2012 #294

Not some "random" nut - some random GUN-NUT. What's your plan on stopping such a person? baldguy Dec 2012 #137

What makes you think this person was a gun-nut? I don't have a plan to remove all the guns.... Logical Dec 2012 #142

Thank you for your confession. You see, the rest of us compassionate, thoughtful LIBERALS baldguy Dec 2012 #163

"One that actually works in nearly every country it's been tried"...... Logical Dec 2012 #165

Wayne LaPierre & Ted Nugent are thirsty. They're calling for you, waterboy. baldguy Dec 2012 #169

OK, I get it, you have nothing. Also....here is some of my feelings about the NRA..... Logical Dec 2012 #172

20 dead children baldguy Dec 2012 #177

Wow, you need a nap. You have anger issues. And no facts about anything. Logical Dec 2012 #191

Anger is a normal response when 20 children are senselessly slaughtered. baldguy Dec 2012 #198

Please show ONE post where I support this shooting! Wow, you are out of control. Logical Dec 2012 #200

Spare me your histrionics. No one is being fooled by it anymore. baldguy Dec 2012 #210

LOL, typical response from someone who has not spent 10 minutes thinking about a problem. Logical Dec 2012 #211

At least I realize THERE IS A PROBLEM when 20 innocent children die needlessly. baldguy Dec 2012 #213

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #216

You're right there obviously can be no plan to "confiscate" all the guns but stricter xtraxritical Dec 2012 #223

Allow us then an objective and comprehensive solution to do just that LanternWaste Dec 2012 #117

It's impossible to do *anything* about 300 million guns..... BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #148

You answer the problem in your own thread. Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #179

The guns may have been legally purchased... ReRe Dec 2012 #186

Where do you get the 40% are not? Private sales? They are legal. more info please. Logical Dec 2012 #187

I'd certainly enjoy listening to the objective solution you propose LanternWaste Dec 2012 #197

How about health care and mental help for all americans? Logical Dec 2012 #201

Look it up. Why didn't you answer my questions? ReRe Dec 2012 #231

I got banned from the gungeon bongbong Dec 2012 #24

No, because the Chinese guy is good for gun control jeff47 Dec 2012 #26

welcome to The Big Tent�, William.. frylock Dec 2012 #27

yes sir, i do. spanone Dec 2012 #28

I am so with you on this. Whovian Dec 2012 #30

The gungeon is there to contain this madness. onehandle Dec 2012 #33

Yes, ban them. n/t godai Dec 2012 #47

Yes, ban them. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #331

Yep. And gun nuttery is NOT a liberal cause. I do not understand why we tolerate those kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #35

Difference between then and now is... Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #37

The China school knife attack is on the front page of CNN now and many other websites today... Tx4obama Dec 2012 #38

You're not that stupid. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #40

I do not know what you mean. Please explain. n/t Tx4obama Dec 2012 #42

. . . . . . . . . . WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #52

I was asking you a serious question. I do not know what the problem with the China story is. Tx4obama Dec 2012 #58

*sigh* OK... WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #74

Apology accepted. All I know is that ... Tx4obama Dec 2012 #85

(((hug))) WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #91

But how would you figure out intent? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #106

By asking. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #110

You have quite a vocabulary. virgogal Dec 2012 #127

Need help with the spelling bee? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #131

You are correct, he does. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #284

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #307

The article is LBN. Fine. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #111

Good luck nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #43

Agree gademocrat7 Dec 2012 #44

+1 Dalai_1 Dec 2012 #45

Thanks, Will. nt s-cubed Dec 2012 #51

+28 jsr Dec 2012 #53

I'm new here secondvariety Dec 2012 #54

It was. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #57

All the gun lovers should go home tonight and TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #59

Yep malaise Dec 2012 #61

I know emotions are running high right now... antigone382 Dec 2012 #62

You're breaking my fucking heart. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #80

No, I explicitly said that posting the story as a political false equivalency was crap. antigone382 Dec 2012 #102

Let's face it, we are easy targets for manipulation. zeemike Dec 2012 #182

20 children were slaughtered today..... llmart Dec 2012 #244

And shutting down the gungeon will some how prevent that in the future? zeemike Dec 2012 #269

This event has proven beyond any doubt that gun advocacy is an irresponsible position, and Squinch Dec 2012 #302

I agree. llmart Dec 2012 #309

Good God, I know! The sheer volume of idiotic gun spin today is nauseating. They're scuttling Squinch Dec 2012 #313

And Iraq has proven beyond any doubt that war advocacy is an irresponsible position. zeemike Dec 2012 #310

Spin away. Twenty 5-year-olds are still dead. Gun control is not thought police. It's common sense Squinch Dec 2012 #312

No gun control is gun control zeemike Dec 2012 #316

Spin, spin, spin. And twenty 5-year-olds are STILL dead. Squinch Dec 2012 #317

It is not spin it is reality. zeemike Dec 2012 #337

I posted about the Chinese guy with the knife TomClash Dec 2012 #67

I think the reference was to folks like this douchebag... SunSeeker Dec 2012 #272

K & R Spryguy Dec 2012 #69

+1000 heaven05 Dec 2012 #70

DU has changed so much, I only stay around because of people like you... onecent Dec 2012 #72

Who is your avatar image? fadedrose Dec 2012 #76

A version of this: WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #83

Amen n/t MANative Dec 2012 #94

DU - wise and otherwise underpants Dec 2012 #99

To be honest DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #108

I empathize with the impulse. Can't agree with the sentiment. DirkGently Dec 2012 #109

Spare me, Dirk. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #120

Your example doesn't support that. "Knives are just like guns" isn't exactly the nadir DirkGently Dec 2012 #138

"...over what remains essentially a political disagreement..." WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #143

Why don't you characterize it, then? DirkGently Dec 2012 #190

consider to whom you give aid and comfort. they will use you carelessly tiny elvis Dec 2012 #263

A reasonable response joe_sixpack Dec 2012 #162

Willian Pitt you are the ONE who Duval Dec 2012 #113

It goes beyond the gun issue NWHarkness Dec 2012 #115

Did you see the dozens of attacks on Obama about Susan Rice yesterday? Had ALL KINDS of "mistakes" patrice Dec 2012 #233

In my over ten years here I never banned a single poster Throckmorton Dec 2012 #118

I'm with you. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #121

I remember too. Flame wars were about benign crap LanternWaste Dec 2012 #125

I remember. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #130

Let the purge begin joe_sixpack Dec 2012 #133

Pry yourself off your cross. You are NOT a victim today. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #139

I have never in my life joe_sixpack Dec 2012 #146

Never? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #150

"responsible gun owners" is an oxymoron. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #252

I'm willing to bet this guy's mother thought she was a responsible gun owner. Squinch Dec 2012 #264

I'm a gun owner and I am fucking sick of the gun nuts. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #326

I've been here just as long, Pitt Nevernose Dec 2012 #140

I agree 100% amuse bouche Dec 2012 #144

What you said Will! The Delicate Flowers are out in force defending their weapons of choice neverforget Dec 2012 #147

On a music forum, a guy actually said he could have run them over with a truck. shenmue Dec 2012 #152

Thank you for posting this, WilliamPitt. n/t secondwind Dec 2012 #153

Yes, I remember DU. displacedtexan Dec 2012 #155

K&R LongTomH Dec 2012 #156

Thank you, Will. liberalmuse Dec 2012 #158

There's a reason there's a gungeon. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #160

I agree....and its not just guns and violence here HuskiesHowls Dec 2012 #166

Been reading since 2001. Ash_F Dec 2012 #170

Yeah, I hear you. AAO Dec 2012 #171

I'm gonna wear out the ignore button today. johnp3907 Dec 2012 #173

+ 100. You gotta ask yourself Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #181

Wow Will, Im sorry to see you advocate this AlecBGreen Dec 2012 #184

I am a gunsmith by trade Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #192

I leave this place for 4 hours and now we have Chinese with Knives? WTF? LynneSin Dec 2012 #193

I remember. Solly Mack Dec 2012 #196

Gee Will, a purge of gun owners because they aren't allowed to be democrats? JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #203

Yep, I do. Right, Will. juajen Dec 2012 #205

After DU consideration, I agree with you Will. Indeed, this thread has made your point. WheelWalker Dec 2012 #206

K&R The dead children do not care about the size of the gun or the caliber. Lint Head Dec 2012 #209

I agree with you EXCEPT Chemisse Dec 2012 #214

Aw hell Flatpicker Dec 2012 #215

+1,000,000,000,000,000 shcrane71 Dec 2012 #219

With you William Pitt! Did you see that travesty of a cross post from Freepville? We've been patrice Dec 2012 #224

You mean this.... SunSeeker Dec 2012 #274

No. This one: patrice Dec 2012 #276

Yuck. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #277

I do Danmel Dec 2012 #226

Well said!! Buddaman Dec 2012 #228

Amen. That story about the knife guy in China was posted how many times today??? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #230

Look at the Susan Rice stuff that ran yesterday. Almost all of it, total HORSECRAP. patrice Dec 2012 #234

Shame more on the jurors who vote to keep it Hissyspit Dec 2012 #246

Agreed proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #265

The one I saw joined DU tonight to post it. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #273

From DU2, to DU3 this place has moved to the right...... Hotler Dec 2012 #232

Part of the problem is that some of that is calling itself "the Left" and acting like the Reich and patrice Dec 2012 #237

Shit! That is fucked up. I have not read about that yet. N/t Hotler Dec 2012 #247

You have to look at the number of times what styles itself as "the Left" either is substantially patrice Dec 2012 #251

I could not find any information on this subject whatsoever, Zorra Dec 2012 #300

I can assure you that they are. The questions are about how best to achieve authentic CHANGE & not patrice Dec 2012 #329

Please forgive me if I don't take your word for it; I am a big fan of facts and proof, and Zorra Dec 2012 #339

k, so you FAVOR the unlimited flow of weapons into 3rd world countries as long as they aren't drones patrice Dec 2012 #340

Whoa, what in the f**k are you talking about? Your last 3 posts make no sense. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #344

Which also means you favor political wars of choice responding to the flow of weapons into those patrice Dec 2012 #341

So, what do you think of the UN? & How do you explain DK HARMING the UN this way? nt patrice Dec 2012 #342

And yes there's lots of important information we don't & CAN'T know, but here's Rand's PLEDGE of patrice Dec 2012 #343

WTF? What does that have to do with Dennis Kucinich? Nothing whatsoever. Zorra Dec 2012 #346

I AM WITH YOU. llmart Dec 2012 #236

The guns thing makes it obvious, but it's not just guns. DU has a griefer problem. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #238

I agree nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #262

Can we organize somehow? Boycott? nt patrice Dec 2012 #242

K & R TroglodyteScholar Dec 2012 #243

And to all those folks who have a concealed carry to go grocery shopping . . . kaiden Dec 2012 #248

Speak truth to power, fellow Grandma! n/t cynatnite Dec 2012 #260

+1000 Wind Dancer Dec 2012 #286

K&R n/t lupinella Dec 2012 #255

I'm sick and tired of gun nuts whining about their fucking rights when children are dead... cynatnite Dec 2012 #258

Recommend #224 H2O Man Dec 2012 #261

In addition to the people who used the Chinese knife guy to justify gun laws, can we also Squinch Dec 2012 #267

How about banning the "cars kill people too" folks like this douche.... SunSeeker Dec 2012 #278

YES! These people are so irresponsible, and today that kind of irresponsibility is shown for what Squinch Dec 2012 #296

Yes. I remember DU. It was my refuge from the GWB era, the place where I came to feel sane. October Dec 2012 #270

Yep, uncontrolled trolls exploiting the big tent doctrine and RW morons jsr Dec 2012 #293

One of the first thing I noticed about DU was the plethora of gun porn posts MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #271

Maybe we need some changes around here, or someplace worthwhile to go instead Coyotl Dec 2012 #275

The problem of gun violence can be addressed from many angles King_Klonopin Dec 2012 #287

If you feel that you need a gun to be safe... world wide wally Dec 2012 #288

A BASIC CALL TO CONSCIOUSNESS Zorra Dec 2012 #305

Start your own website FreakinDJ Dec 2012 #306

I originally recced the article you wrote about, because I thought it was a discussion of LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #311

Right on. sarcasmo Dec 2012 #315

It seems like the 2008 Election brought a lot of non-progressive jerks here. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #325

I agree and I say basta! Enough! N/t Ninga Dec 2012 #330

I DU... And I... Aw Fuck It... WillyT Dec 2012 #345