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In reply to the discussion: Democrats have a Florida problem [View all]Celerity
(55,370 posts)22. Manchin and Sinema were not 'moderates', they were wreckers extraordinaire. They helped (along with some of the House
Problem Solvers) to gut over $5.1 trillion out of $6.1 trillion in new spend from Biden's 2 major Infrastructure bill frameworks (tossing massively crucial, vital programmes in the bin, ones that would have had truly helped us defeat Trump in 2024).
They also blocked the two large voter rights/voter protection bills, both of which, if they had passed, would have not only aided defeating Trump and many Rethugs, but would have finally started the push-back against the decades of scurrilous voter suppression and RW gerrymandering that has rocket-fuelled the Republican Party in its dark rise.
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I don't think we can win there without drastically changing some of our positions
Polybius
Dec 2024
#31
Florida is one of several states where deportations will impact the economy the most. Agri and tourism hit hard. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2024
#4
I saw an article maybe last year that said the majority of people moving to Florida leaned Republican
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#34
As of April 1, 2023, Florida's population was estimated to be 22,634,867. This is a 5.1% increase from the 2020 Census.
EX500rider
Dec 2024
#13
Actually the springs will be inland..and gators don't like cold or clear water
EX500rider
Dec 2024
#18
IMO it seems like Dems push out its moderates as well, like Joe Manchin
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#14
Manchin and Sinema were not 'moderates', they were wreckers extraordinaire. They helped (along with some of the House
Celerity
Dec 2024
#22
And the ACA would have had a public option if it were not for Joe Lieberman. It's politics.
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#23
Then, I'll rephrase. Dems weren't doing a great job of incentivizing him, and people like him, to stay
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#39