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In reply to the discussion: Democrats have a Florida problem [View all]DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,527 posts)29. We need something in the south after 2030
Because as it looks right now, enough Electoral votes are going to shift away from blue states to red states that the blue wall will no longer matter. The Republicans could still win if they lose all 3 states.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/big-changes-ahead-voting-maps-after-next-census]
In 2024, Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris could have won the Electoral College by winning the states she carried, Nebraskas 2nd Congressional District (Nebraska allocates some electoral votes by district), plus the so-called Blue Wall battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
By 2032, that strategy would no longer work. Given the shift of electoral votes to the South, even if a Democrat in 2032 were to carry the Blue Wall states and both Arizona and Nevada, the result would be only a narrow 276262 win.
By 2032, that strategy would no longer work. Given the shift of electoral votes to the South, even if a Democrat in 2032 were to carry the Blue Wall states and both Arizona and Nevada, the result would be only a narrow 276262 win.
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I don't think we can win there without drastically changing some of our positions
Polybius
Dec 2024
#31
Florida is one of several states where deportations will impact the economy the most. Agri and tourism hit hard. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2024
#4
I saw an article maybe last year that said the majority of people moving to Florida leaned Republican
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#34
As of April 1, 2023, Florida's population was estimated to be 22,634,867. This is a 5.1% increase from the 2020 Census.
EX500rider
Dec 2024
#13
Actually the springs will be inland..and gators don't like cold or clear water
EX500rider
Dec 2024
#18
IMO it seems like Dems push out its moderates as well, like Joe Manchin
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#14
Manchin and Sinema were not 'moderates', they were wreckers extraordinaire. They helped (along with some of the House
Celerity
Dec 2024
#22
And the ACA would have had a public option if it were not for Joe Lieberman. It's politics.
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#23
Then, I'll rephrase. Dems weren't doing a great job of incentivizing him, and people like him, to stay
In It to Win It
Dec 2024
#39