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SunSeeker
(58,251 posts)252. "responsible gun owners" is an oxymoron.
I'm not saying there should be no gun ownership, just that if you want to be safe, you should not own a gun.
You're 43 times more likely to be killed by your own gun than by an intruder's. You are unlikely to have an intruder. But you are very likely to get drunk, get depressed, get in a fight with someone in your house, or have your kid find your gun. That's how people get killed. Having a gun in the house makes it far more likely that you'll get your own fool head blown off.
That's why it is so crazy to suggest you should buy a gun for your own protection. I would imagine this woman knew her son had mental issues. Ironically, maybe she thought those guns would protect her from him.
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/more-guns-more-suicides/
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I belong to the gungeon, and own guns and HATE the NRA, when a group can allow Ted Nugent....
Logical
Dec 2012
#64
LOL. Do you have any actual information about the problem? Or just want to insult people?
Logical
Dec 2012
#95
I am quite serious. You are simply not worth engaging in actual discussion.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#116
Name ONE that I ignored? How do you remove 300 million guns from being used by a nut?
Logical
Dec 2012
#101
OK, I see that point. But my worry is the 300 million guns out there. The black market would....
Logical
Dec 2012
#208
It would be wrong to collect guns that people bought in then-lawful purchases.
Chemisse
Dec 2012
#239
10 shot limit in all magazine & clips, turn in your old ones or jail & seized home..........
kooljerk666
Dec 2012
#292
Wow, I love this argument, please show ONE post where I defend the NRA or where I have....
Logical
Dec 2012
#129
You are the NRA poster boy. Except, you do it, maybe without even realizing it.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#225
Of course you are correct - free health care & expensive guns for a free, safe & sane society
baldguy
Dec 2012
#167
We don't tolerate anti-choice, homphobia, sexism, racism. We don't need lockstep,
morningfog
Dec 2012
#207
Exactly ! "The DU where people could debate freely." Then egotists fucked it up
Laura PourMeADrink
Dec 2012
#220
I defend their right to an opinion, but not to a gun. Their gun is violating my rights.
Squinch
Dec 2012
#257
Yes, banning guns WILL stop people from committing gun slaughter. Your argument is ridiculous
Squinch
Dec 2012
#298
You know, that'd probably work to reduce a significant amount of this crap. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#241
The insinuation of all sorts of right wing talking points is astonishing...
TransitJohn
Dec 2012
#323
As I said elsewhere, that China story was the first thing I heard this morning on NPR.
Robb
Dec 2012
#15
if we cannot fight and win inside the forum, then we cannot fight effectively outside
hfojvt
Dec 2012
#334
I alerted on 2 of those threads, they were both allowed to stay. Couldn't agree fucking more with u
Happyhippychick
Dec 2012
#20
Wow, yes, lets ban anyone who disagrees with WilliamPitt! How about you do this.......
Logical
Dec 2012
#22
Oh that's an easy one: the DP for any gun owner who fails to secure their guns and then they are
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#41
Wow, not a liberal wants the death penalty to be expanded. Even for non-murderers. Perfect!!
Logical
Dec 2012
#49
There is no requirement here that I oppose the DP. Plenty of DUers support its limited use.
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#89
Can I make the same 'BAN THEM' call for people who support the death penalty?
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2012
#135
This shooter might have just used handguns only. And there is no difference between a....
Logical
Dec 2012
#55
At the risk of incurring the OP's wrath as a 'nra water carrier', the police are saying
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2012
#136
How am I the problem. Because I want to know how you plan on stopping a random nut from killing?
Logical
Dec 2012
#81
If you could today remove all the guns in the USA and ban the sales of them then I think.....
Logical
Dec 2012
#141
How am I blocking anything. I look forward to you finding 10 senators, much less 50 that propose....
Logical
Dec 2012
#221
The problem will take time to solve. Banning assault rifles and hand guns is a start.
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#218
Not some "random" nut - some random GUN-NUT. What's your plan on stopping such a person?
baldguy
Dec 2012
#137
What makes you think this person was a gun-nut? I don't have a plan to remove all the guns....
Logical
Dec 2012
#142
Thank you for your confession. You see, the rest of us compassionate, thoughtful LIBERALS
baldguy
Dec 2012
#163
OK, I get it, you have nothing. Also....here is some of my feelings about the NRA.....
Logical
Dec 2012
#172
Please show ONE post where I support this shooting! Wow, you are out of control.
Logical
Dec 2012
#200
LOL, typical response from someone who has not spent 10 minutes thinking about a problem.
Logical
Dec 2012
#211
At least I realize THERE IS A PROBLEM when 20 innocent children die needlessly.
baldguy
Dec 2012
#213
You're right there obviously can be no plan to "confiscate" all the guns but stricter
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#223
Where do you get the 40% are not? Private sales? They are legal. more info please.
Logical
Dec 2012
#187
Yep. And gun nuttery is NOT a liberal cause. I do not understand why we tolerate those
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#35
The China school knife attack is on the front page of CNN now and many other websites today...
Tx4obama
Dec 2012
#38
I was asking you a serious question. I do not know what the problem with the China story is.
Tx4obama
Dec 2012
#58
No, I explicitly said that posting the story as a political false equivalency was crap.
antigone382
Dec 2012
#102
This event has proven beyond any doubt that gun advocacy is an irresponsible position, and
Squinch
Dec 2012
#302
Good God, I know! The sheer volume of idiotic gun spin today is nauseating. They're scuttling
Squinch
Dec 2012
#313
And Iraq has proven beyond any doubt that war advocacy is an irresponsible position.
zeemike
Dec 2012
#310
Spin away. Twenty 5-year-olds are still dead. Gun control is not thought police. It's common sense
Squinch
Dec 2012
#312
Your example doesn't support that. "Knives are just like guns" isn't exactly the nadir
DirkGently
Dec 2012
#138
Did you see the dozens of attacks on Obama about Susan Rice yesterday? Had ALL KINDS of "mistakes"
patrice
Dec 2012
#233
What you said Will! The Delicate Flowers are out in force defending their weapons of choice
neverforget
Dec 2012
#147
On a music forum, a guy actually said he could have run them over with a truck.
shenmue
Dec 2012
#152
Gee Will, a purge of gun owners because they aren't allowed to be democrats?
JohnnyRingo
Dec 2012
#203
After DU consideration, I agree with you Will. Indeed, this thread has made your point.
WheelWalker
Dec 2012
#206
With you William Pitt! Did you see that travesty of a cross post from Freepville? We've been
patrice
Dec 2012
#224
Amen. That story about the knife guy in China was posted how many times today???
proud2BlibKansan
Dec 2012
#230
Look at the Susan Rice stuff that ran yesterday. Almost all of it, total HORSECRAP.
patrice
Dec 2012
#234
Part of the problem is that some of that is calling itself "the Left" and acting like the Reich and
patrice
Dec 2012
#237
You have to look at the number of times what styles itself as "the Left" either is substantially
patrice
Dec 2012
#251
I can assure you that they are. The questions are about how best to achieve authentic CHANGE & not
patrice
Dec 2012
#329
Please forgive me if I don't take your word for it; I am a big fan of facts and proof, and
Zorra
Dec 2012
#339
k, so you FAVOR the unlimited flow of weapons into 3rd world countries as long as they aren't drones
patrice
Dec 2012
#340
Whoa, what in the f**k are you talking about? Your last 3 posts make no sense. nt
Zorra
Dec 2012
#344
Which also means you favor political wars of choice responding to the flow of weapons into those
patrice
Dec 2012
#341
So, what do you think of the UN? & How do you explain DK HARMING the UN this way? nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#342
And yes there's lots of important information we don't & CAN'T know, but here's Rand's PLEDGE of
patrice
Dec 2012
#343
The guns thing makes it obvious, but it's not just guns. DU has a griefer problem.
backscatter712
Dec 2012
#238
I'm sick and tired of gun nuts whining about their fucking rights when children are dead...
cynatnite
Dec 2012
#258
In addition to the people who used the Chinese knife guy to justify gun laws, can we also
Squinch
Dec 2012
#267
YES! These people are so irresponsible, and today that kind of irresponsibility is shown for what
Squinch
Dec 2012
#296
Yes. I remember DU. It was my refuge from the GWB era, the place where I came to feel sane.
October
Dec 2012
#270
One of the first thing I noticed about DU was the plethora of gun porn posts
MotherPetrie
Dec 2012
#271
I originally recced the article you wrote about, because I thought it was a discussion of
LiberalLoner
Dec 2012
#311