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In reply to the discussion: I have a theory about our nation's misogyny which may be too simplistic, but keeps coming back up in my mind. [View all]usonian
(23,242 posts)Zane Grey created the old west.
Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp were pretty rogue.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Holliday
I can't comment on the women. I honestly don't know, but Puccini set "The Girl of tbe Golden West" in Sacramento, and Minnie was a card-playing, gun-toting heroine. One of the few operas where nobody dies at the end. Many kill off the principals.
In early tv series men were solid citizens like Ozzie Harriet, Robert Young and Fred McMurray, IIRC.
Then at some point, men became lazy, vain fools like Al Bundy (The real Ed O'Neil had ads for Kamala!!!! ) and Carrol O'Connor (Archie Bunker) was a liberal, go figure.
I have no idea why, and it's certainly not women's liberation, because men were in 100% control of networks and film, AFAICT.
Call me if that ever changed.
Last male figure I saw in tv was David Carradine, in Kung Fu, a different kind of person than "western" characters, though set in the old west. A Coast Guard buddy and I would watch in a local pub with $3 pitchers of beer at the time.
I gave up TV.
In fact, aside from Kung Fu violence ( admittedly defensive) which is a tiny minority, the overall Buddhist ideal of a strong, peaceful, compassionate and benevolent man suits me better than all western stereotypes, which as I noted, have transmogrified over time, and look at the juvenile crybabies and blamers we have now. Some followers of the Lotus Sutra are highly socially engaged, and view the practice as equally for others as for self, contrasting with the self-aggrandizing western notions, including salvation of oneself, regardless of others. It's more holistic.
Well, that's all for now.