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MadameButterfly

(4,042 posts)
53. Her political views were formed by her father
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:46 PM
Jan 2025

Last edited Wed Jan 8, 2025, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Very few people completely overturn the politics of their parents, especially high profile politicians. The fact that we are finding decency in even her father on this issue shows how far the Republican Party has strayed. Liz's upbringing should have created a different result than it did, and we have to give her credit for her independence and her courage.

When I see former Republicans speaking out against MAGA, Trump, and J6, I often want to punch them. Where were you, I want to ask, when the groundwork for all this was being laid? Even Nicole Wallace was writing speeches for George W. Were there not enough clues then? Was she not smart enough?

But we need to be grateful that for many of them (not enough of them) there is a line. And if they can search their souls, leave their tribe behind, and refuse to cross that line, we need to welcome them. We don't win by making Democracy an exclusive club.

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I agree with Liz Cheney. Do you? [View all] senseandsensibility Jan 2025 OP
Absolutely!! claudette Jan 2025 #1
There are two reports, soldierant Jan 2025 #60
I won't forget the silence and the rolling over. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #2
What are you going to do about it? Snoopy 7 Jan 2025 #69
Yes, I agree, however... Fiendish Thingy Jan 2025 #3
I used to be very concerned with this... Hope22 Jan 2025 #6
Correct, show everything, maybe just redact names of witnesses to disallow MAGAts to turn violent Escurumbele Jan 2025 #27
Agree republianmushroom Jan 2025 #4
Yup. 2naSalit Jan 2025 #5
Fuck Cheney angrychair Jan 2025 #7
So you would prefer Cheney and Kinziger not to have been members of the J6 hearings? usaf-vet Jan 2025 #8
She's done a lot more, Crunchy Frog Jan 2025 #11
The enemy of my enemy... Magoo48 Jan 2025 #14
Well said. Regardless Scubamatt Jan 2025 #21
Look mr715 Jan 2025 #32
agree. at the same time, it is a bit curious why Liz Cheney happens to be more outspoken than any of our msfiddlestix Jan 2025 #63
Exactly mr715 Jan 2025 #71
I'm not sure I agree. I feel like she sincerely believes in her public pronouncements wrt Trump et al msfiddlestix Jan 2025 #72
You are right on both counts Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2025 #64
As much as I've disagreed with Cheney in the past, she did put herself "out there" more than harumph Jan 2025 #12
I probably disagree 90%+ w her views. She also did good by being on the committee to give it a bipartisan aspect along w electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #13
Her political views were formed by her father MadameButterfly Jan 2025 #53
She wasn't a prize when she was at State mr715 Jan 2025 #17
You obviously haven't paid attention to the news for the last two years iemanja Jan 2025 #36
Cheney is garbage angrychair Jan 2025 #39
Your political instincts are poor iemanja Jan 2025 #43
Say whatever you want I guess angrychair Jan 2025 #51
No one is bowing down to Republicans iemanja Jan 2025 #57
Half of America angrychair Jan 2025 #58
You're the only one talking about bipartisanship. iemanja Jan 2025 #67
Capitulate?!? ShazzieB Jan 2025 #61
BTW I think bringing LC into the camaign COST VOTES in 24... YMMV WarGamer Jan 2025 #9
I don't think Cheney carried the weight with white women voters senseandsensibility Jan 2025 #18
I absolutely agree with her. City Lights Jan 2025 #10
Yes. Magoo48 Jan 2025 #15
Hagiography mr715 Jan 2025 #16
Agreement w one good thing she's done is Not hagiography 🙄 electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #24
You're right mr715 Jan 2025 #33
Absolutely 💯 benfranklin1776 Jan 2025 #19
Why do we have to "agree with" someone about something sensible. JHB Jan 2025 #20
Trump said it was already destroyed. Wait...you mean he lied? Bengus81 Jan 2025 #22
si. AllaN01Bear Jan 2025 #23
I suspect she said that before Cannon's order, can't release against a court order usregimechange Jan 2025 #25
I loved it today DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #46
Agreed and the 11th circuit should reverse her tonight usregimechange Jan 2025 #52
How much confidence is there that Garland will do the right thing? I have never been a person who likes to bet Escurumbele Jan 2025 #26
I have no faith in Garland. slightlv Jan 2025 #30
I like you, believe on your quote "he holds power (notice I did NOT say 'four years'". I have a feeling they Escurumbele Jan 2025 #38
Question DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #47
I'm liking her more and more. pandr32 Jan 2025 #28
I never thought I'd hear myself agree with Liz Cheney but yes I do. Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #29
I agree with literally nothing Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #31
So you don't want the report released? iemanja Jan 2025 #42
I don't think she's genuine. At all. Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #45
the courts? stillcool Jan 2025 #55
Ms Cheney is absolutely right. We bought and paid for these reports. They belong to us. flashman13 Jan 2025 #34
Not generally Groundhawg Jan 2025 #35
She's right. What else matters except the truth? Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #37
Apparently, the Cheney haters don't want the report relased iemanja Jan 2025 #40
He will never to that. Kablooie Jan 2025 #41
It should be done now. trump won't allow it...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2025 #44
Back in the day when real Republicans existed state of stupid Jan 2025 #48
Of course it will be destroyed DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #49
I was never a Cheney fan Americanme Jan 2025 #50
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2025 #54
Anyone actually think Timewas Jan 2025 #56
I agree with her but we all know that useless garland won't do shit Nt Javaman Jan 2025 #59
If the reports aren't released, we are done with the U.S. PJMcK Jan 2025 #62
Agreed on the Democratic Party. oldmanlynn Jan 2025 #65
Astonishing to my own damn self, I do! Sparkly Jan 2025 #66
Garland is timorous. LudwigPastorius Jan 2025 #68
I have to wonder evilhime Jan 2025 #70
Can't get past Cheney's hypocrisy GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #73
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