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AverageOldGuy

(3,883 posts)
7. The South has won the Civil War
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 10:19 AM
Jan 2025

I was born (1944) in deep rural SW Mississippi; the great-great grandson of slave owner. My g-g-grandaddy and his siblings and familiy owned over 300 enslaved people on plantations in SW Mississippi and SE Louisiana.

I left Mississippi in 1962 at age 18 and never looked back.

I was deeply embedded in the Jim Crow culture, the Black Codes, and Deep South social customs -- blacks did not look white people in the eye when talking, they had to cast their eyes down; my county was (still is) 75% black, only a handful voted; when we talked about "the war," we were talking about "The War Between the States," not the recently-concluded WW II; Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were saints, seated on the right hand of God the Father -- at least that's what I learned in school, church, and family.

I've been watching the South be converted from white supremacist Democratic control the white supremacist Republican control.

I have been back home for funerals and the conversations with my cousins are filled with the same racist shit I heard in the 1950's . . . they just temper it a bit. Schools are segregated -- black kids go to public schools, white kids to "the academy". (Read the Wikipedia article on "Segregation Academies".)

The South won the Civil War, Trump's election was just the ceremony where the rest of us signed the surrender documents.

Read Heather Cox Richardson's book "How the South Won the Civil War."

Please do not leave out Cruz (Texas). Cruelty and obnoxiousness is part of the GOP platform. walkingman Jan 2025 #1
Confederate southern states used to be solidly Democratic till civil rights came along and federal laws and sop Jan 2025 #2
Yes. And there WERE some Confederacy sympathizers in the northern states. raging moderate Jan 2025 #3
Southern states blessed w warm lush climate yet they are money sinks Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #4
They were conservative "Southern Democrats" Basso8vb Jan 2025 #5
That was a completely different Democratic party. Susan Calvin Jan 2025 #17
Dixiecrats. sop Jan 2025 #22
Old news. The Democratic Party was split between wnylib Jan 2025 #21
The Union should have hanged Lee, Davis and the gang dalton99a Jan 2025 #6
The Union should have also insisted on completing Reconstruction meow2u3 Jan 2025 #10
The South has won the Civil War AverageOldGuy Jan 2025 #7
Knights Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #11
Thank you for mentioning this topic. LastDemocratInSC Jan 2025 #14
The fact that such events are completely untaught in our schools is damning... Moostache Jan 2025 #15
If we had a national football team LastDemocratInSC Jan 2025 #29
Their continued promotion of slavery to this day has taken hold of our government, business, etc Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #19
The worst of the worst anniebelle Jan 2025 #8
The forces which drove the old south were centrifugal, that is, spinning them away from united action. Simeon Salus Jan 2025 #9
The Capital police force (in its entirety) should resign today. cer7711 Jan 2025 #12
What the fuck? intheflow Jan 2025 #13
Exactly! The return of the Confederacy is a big part of all this. ananda Jan 2025 #16
I am originally from PA and now live in NY state. wnylib Jan 2025 #23
The ultimate result of not hanging Robert E. Lee as a traitor. alarimer Jan 2025 #18
Lincoln's goal, if he had lived, was to reunite the wnylib Jan 2025 #24
It didn't work in the long run, did it? alarimer Jan 2025 #27
Well, it did not last long because Lincoln himself wnylib Jan 2025 #28
Agree whole heartedly Kali999 Jan 2025 #20
The Trump Confederacy moondust Jan 2025 #25
The "Civil War" as you put it already started years ago Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #26
The craziness Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #30
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