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NickB79

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50. Not just this one. Tariffs last time killed trade with China

Sat Feb 1, 2025, 10:43 AM

Feb 2025

My dad's side of the family lost a lot of money when China stopped buying our soybeans. And the $30 billion in farm aid Trump sent out to compensate mostly went to big farmers. The little guys like my uncles running 200-300 acres barely saw a dime. And yes, that's little; you aren't a "real" farmer this days unless you're plowing 500+ acres.

And today, we just put tariffs on China, Mexico and Canada. Trump was just talking about EU tariffs yesterday as the next step, and tariffs on any BRICS nations as well.

At this rate my uncles won't have farms to pass on to their kids 4 yr from now. It will be nothing but mega-farm conglomerates in charge, hiring my cousins to drive the tractors instead.

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'Very dangerous': Trump dumps billions of gallons of water farmers were counting on for summer [View all] no_hypocrisy Feb 2025 OP

Most of these farmers probably voted for Trump. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #1

Absolutely, and it will be the liberal 'tree huggers' and smelt that did it. travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #41

Hillary's emails in the pizza parlor did it. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #48

To whom you can say with evidence... Grins Feb 2025 #55

Famine and food shortages Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #2

And not enough water come summer Attilatheblond Feb 2025 #13

Redistribution of Wealth, possibly to foreign powers delisen Feb 2025 #29

I suspect that is what Trump and Musk are doing. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #39

I called it... 2naSalit Feb 2025 #36

Correct Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #40

G.O.P. is forcing farmers out of business with this Stupid Stunt BoRaGard Feb 2025 #3

Immigration round up as well............... Lovie777 Feb 2025 #6

Won't make eggs cheaper. But big Money bros can buy more farms & further consolidate factory food. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #9

Yep. It's all about taking ALL the resources and land Attilatheblond Feb 2025 #14

Don't remember who said it- I think maybe it was Alliepoo Feb 2025 #16

The Orange Addickt wants to control the flow of Spice. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #19

He and Musk love their spice... too much. ananda Feb 2025 #26

They voted for him so this is what they want travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #42

Not just this one. Tariffs last time killed trade with China NickB79 Feb 2025 #50

This is a big deal. jeffreyi Feb 2025 #4

Before this, the issue was the theft of California water to transfer to no_hypocrisy Feb 2025 #5

shithole's revenge................ Lovie777 Feb 2025 #7

It's a criminal big deal. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #8

Water is a third rail issue in the west Strelnikov_ Feb 2025 #54

Trump screwed over farmers in his first administration... perdita9 Feb 2025 #10

In his first term kkmarie Feb 2025 #25

TSF is unfit and unqualified. Not only that he doesn't consult with the domain specific iluvtennis Feb 2025 #11

Remember when Notre Dame was burning and Trump insisted they just needed to dump water on it? Lonestarblue Feb 2025 #12

Did he do this on purpose to fuck with California? Or to screw with Newsom? IcyPeas Feb 2025 #15

Absolutely. Order will be traceable to cabinet level lackey (acting) who may or may not fall on own sword. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #18

He's screwing his own people. paleotn Feb 2025 #23

Those are not mutually exclusive. PunkinPi Feb 2025 #33

It's a flippant grandstanding inconsiderate stupid decision underpants Feb 2025 #35

All of the above. He also wants to act like a hero to the farmers. They will suck it travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #44

He did it to own the libs Diraven Feb 2025 #52

So long fresh fruits and vegetables. Guess there's no one to pick them anyway. Vinca Feb 2025 #17

The dairy farmers in that area will take a hit too. hunter Feb 2025 #32

That's what... 2naSalit Feb 2025 #38

Soon there will be lots of former federal workers to pick those fruits and vegetables. travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #45

He obviously likes seeing people suffer and die. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #20

Red farmers lost their water. Awwww. paleotn Feb 2025 #21

But it will be Newsome's fault. travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #46

Not hardly. paleotn Feb 2025 #61

His grudge against California is incredibly stupid and dangerous and this is just an assault on the people of CA LymphocyteLover Feb 2025 #22

It's an assault on all of us since we get so much food AllyCat Feb 2025 #28

It was pure spite orangecrush Feb 2025 #24

He had to find a faucet to turn on since everyone ragged him about that stupidity. travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #47

"a complete lack of understanding of how the system works" Danascot Feb 2025 #27

No common sense, no understanding how things actually work TommieMommy Feb 2025 #30

Brilliant! I suppose this could help push the price of Mike 03 Feb 2025 #31

isn't this akin to a terrorist attack on one of our states? This is civil war shit LymphocyteLover Feb 2025 #34

trmp knows more about water than anybody.... spanone Feb 2025 #37

I posted on the DU Gardening Forum in November about re-planning my gardens post-election NickB79 Feb 2025 #43

Sounds gorgeous, but you really have to have large gardens to actually survive on them. travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #49

Indeed. I'm under no illusion I can go off-grid NickB79 Feb 2025 #53

No crops means no need for migrant workers whopis01 Feb 2025 #51

"Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown" DBoon Feb 2025 #56

So, they won't have water for their crops, or workers to tend and harvest them. patphil Feb 2025 #57

Update: Officials have backed off on the largest release Qutzupalotl Feb 2025 #58

I think we should EndlessWire Feb 2025 #59

What a colossal A-hole republicon to do that to the farmers BoRaGard Feb 2025 #60

Folks elected a bombastic clown who doesn't know what he's doing Hitorque Feb 2025 #62