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Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
42. You don't remember correctly.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 03:13 PM
Feb 2025

That's okay, though. Polls consistently showed Trump and Harris in a statistical tie. They rarely ever budged. That indicated a very close race. We were told by many people here that this just was not the case: Harris was going to win, probably by a lot.

Plenty of people could predict a swing state sweep solely based on the fact most swing states don't act independently of one another. It's why in 2020, Biden essentially swept all the swing states and in 2016, Trump did (and 2012 Obama did as well).

But there was enough polling evidence to show Democrats were in trouble that people like you flatly refused to believe - whether it was her trailing in Georgia and Arizona or struggling in Michigan, a state Biden won by like 3 points in 2020, a bigger margin than most the other swing states.

Of course, when people pointed that out, you were quick to dismiss their concerns and push a narrative that the polling was flat-out wrong.

But the polling wasn't wrong. It was never wrong. For months, it showed the race as being a very tough dynamic for Democrats but you all refused to believe it.

It's why Harris spent most the campaign reminding everyone who was paying attention that they were the underdogs.

Everything that happened on election day should not have been a surprise to anyone who even half took polling seriously. If you did, you always knew this was going be a tough election for Harris and that Trump stood a really good chance of winning.

And, surprise, he won.

But if you listened to the poll deniers, in no way was there any realistic chance that he'd win.

Well here we are again, denying polls because it's incomprehensible to believe that Trump would not be the most unpopular president ever.

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The GOP will be 100% behind him all the way to the end. dalton99a Feb 2025 #1
43% of MAGAS are drinking too much bleach as advised by the world's best physician now in the White House. Ping Tung Feb 2025 #15
Are we starting up with poll nonsense again? Think. Again. Feb 2025 #2
It would seem so. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2025 #5
As though for-profit pollsters are suddenly more trustworthy since the trump win. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #6
What nonsense? edhopper Feb 2025 #7
I agree. What nonsense. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #10
Imagine spending all of 2024 trying to convince everyone polls are fake... Self Esteem Feb 2025 #12
Except the polls didn't prove "fairly accurate" in 2024... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #18
There were some that did show that in the lead up MontanaFarmer Feb 2025 #28
You don't remember correctly. Self Esteem Feb 2025 #42
Listening to the mainstream media you will Whyisthisstillclose Feb 2025 #3
You guys are not getting it or Tickle Feb 2025 #4
Yea, some of the Trumpers will have to experience it on themselves to LisaL Feb 2025 #8
I want to say good, they deserve it Tickle Feb 2025 #11
Was one of the polls Rasmussen? gab13by13 Feb 2025 #9
Yes, he never had a honeymoon senseandsensibility Feb 2025 #13
It's definitely weak and likely to drop some more. Self Esteem Feb 2025 #14
Everyday Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #16
It's pouring edhopper Feb 2025 #21
Whatever Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #36
A voter doesn't change opinion until it affects them personally NameAlreadyTaken Feb 2025 #17
He hasn't been in office for 3 weeks yet Mountainguy Feb 2025 #19
It is basically the same as the day he took office edhopper Feb 2025 #24
Not really Mountainguy Feb 2025 #26
I believe Musk is polling awful Johonny Feb 2025 #46
Facts! Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #48
Trump support is based on contrarianism. sop Feb 2025 #20
48% is not "strong." nt SunSeeker Feb 2025 #22
There has been a fascist coup edhopper Feb 2025 #25
I agree there has neen a fascist coup, but the pain has not reached the low info voter. SunSeeker Feb 2025 #31
Well, all I see and hear are people in shock and getting angry. OldBaldy1701E Feb 2025 #23
They SAY they approve TexasBushwhacker Feb 2025 #27
Give it alttle time it seems like 6 months but only 3 weeks. FloridaBlues Feb 2025 #29
Has he ever reached 50%? I don't think so. CrispyQ Feb 2025 #30
In CBS's poll today he did Polybius Feb 2025 #32
In other words most Americans approve of racism, sexism, and bigotry. Sounds about right. JohnSJ Feb 2025 #35
... Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #37
Scary. andym Feb 2025 #41
Many are too stupid to work for the federal government and just envious of fed workers Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #49
He's going to be smelling himself and touting that shit poll now even when it drops Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #50
It's too early for polling to mean anything (if it ever does). Most people, unless they are junkies like us, Raven Feb 2025 #33
Is it really? It is a national poll, and I remain skeptical how representative the sampling is, but assuming that the JohnSJ Feb 2025 #34
Here in the Texas Hill Country he is revered as the Second Coming - in Austin, just the opposite. walkingman Feb 2025 #38
One Maga I work with (there are many) was still directly parroting his line on Tarriffs on Canada. Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #39
Currently his actions are abstract. Wait until Americans mzmolly Feb 2025 #40
Politics 101: A universal truth is that a large group of voters ONLY care about perceived self-interest andym Feb 2025 #43
I was able to turn one MAGA. The guy is a real estate agent. He only watches FOX. Jit423 Feb 2025 #44
I think it's immigration. Illegal border crossings have dropped off to practically zero. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #45
Yes, because nobody wants to come here. LisaL Feb 2025 #47
Even Mexico is focusing on uplifting their country Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #51
If 60 percent of Americans are morons, his approval will be 60 percent. dem4decades Feb 2025 #52
Yes, cult is with him kansasobama Feb 2025 #53
STUPIDITY IS STRONGER Xoan Feb 2025 #54
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