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MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
138. I wonder how we know what they will do
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 02:39 PM
Feb 2025

If they just take it away from people without SS numbers, we're good. But since his claim isn't true, we have to assume this is just preparation for attacking it another way.

If there is fraud I think we're all on board for getting rid of that. But to really save it, the income cap on paying into SS needs to be raised. If you don't want SS, it isn't that hard to destroy. If you want it, it isn't that hard to save.

Whatever happens, it needs to be decided by Congress who will be answerable to voters. Then there needs to be a free and fair election. And we shouldn't all be on tenter hooks about that. The very possibility of neither happening is psychological abuse.

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Motherfucker iemanja Feb 2025 #1
+1 dalton99a Feb 2025 #3
Privatizing it in a way the benefits the filthy rich was ALWAYS the MAGA/GOP plan, B.See Feb 2025 #30
China already has my personal information Tickle Feb 2025 #62
and disabled (SSI) Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #103
let's hope that doesn't happen Tickle Feb 2025 #113
I wonder how we know what they will do MadameButterfly Feb 2025 #138
A Dogecoin bank, Musk's chosen cybercurrency. CaptainTruth Feb 2025 #100
Jesus Please STOP Mump From Stealing Our Cha Feb 2025 #160
Has anyone else been following the YouTube channel with up-to-date Social Security info by Ed Weir, PhD? wordstroken Feb 2025 #180
Hey, the money for the Sovereign Wealth Fund has to come from somewhere... Starfury Feb 2025 #18
Yes Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 #27
"Elders living in tents"? It would be an impossible task just to survive in tents as seniors with medical problems. elocs Feb 2025 #63
Musk & Trump think they are gods inasmuch as their saying something makes it true. elocs Feb 2025 #64
Per your definition they are in fact gods Cosmocat Feb 2025 #66
Elon Musk BANKRUPTCY path with bottomless insecurity Justice matters. Feb 2025 #23
Do Not Be Fooled! homegirl Feb 2025 #34
Yes, SS is called an entitlement because you are legally entitled to it! LudwigPastorius Feb 2025 #38
it amazes me how many people do not understand what the noun ENTITLEMENT means Skittles Feb 2025 #53
The Republicans have been trying to kill off the New Deal since the beginning. . . . h2ebits Feb 2025 #106
You know what else FDR started? Farmer-Rick Feb 2025 #155
As the REAL SS takes over... Montauk6 Feb 2025 #84
We need a Social Security number to work so Delmette2.0 Feb 2025 #82
He makes up stories kacekwl Feb 2025 #111
Space X....let's check that Company out for FRAUD! Bengus81 Feb 2025 #125
He's been caught lying several times now, D. Spaulding Feb 2025 #129
I don't think Katcat Feb 2025 #139
I heard tell somewhere today ReRe Feb 2025 #154
That asshole is a fraud. HarryM Feb 2025 #144
Richest man in the world goes after some of the poorest people in the world...Shame.... wcmagumba Feb 2025 #2
Apparently, not the richest anymore (or very soon)... Justice matters. Feb 2025 #33
He should have sat down quietly and ate his food Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #70
Eloon and his Space X just bagged another $39 MILLION $$$$ GOVERNMENT contract. I call FRAUD and WASTE!! Bengus81 Feb 2025 #124
Absolutely fraud and waste right there Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #170
Having worked for Social Security CanonRay Feb 2025 #4
+1. The illegal alien from South Africa talks out of his ass 90% of the time dalton99a Feb 2025 #6
+10000000000 Bengus81 Feb 2025 #127
Any idea on how he "justifies" his fraud claims?? nt Disaffected Feb 2025 #25
Like Trump, he has no proof of his claims. GoodRaisin Feb 2025 #51
He doesn't want to pay his share of FICA taxes. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #90
Medicare also scammed by the big advantage insurance plans.... allegorical oracle Feb 2025 #107
it does get scammed. HCA/Columbia hospital system was Rick Scott's tool yellowdogintexas Feb 2025 #156
When I worked in a bank, we could not take a SS card as identification yellowdogintexas Feb 2025 #157
True, but to receive benefits you need a legit number CanonRay Feb 2025 #178
true and nowadays that could be verified almost instantly yellowdogintexas Feb 2025 #183
They're not "entitlements," asshole. It's OUR MONEY! SheltieLover Feb 2025 #5
Yes! They're earned benefits. nt doubleplusgood Feb 2025 #12
10,000!!! LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2025 #49
which makes them ENTITLEMENTS Skittles Feb 2025 #57
SS *IS* an entitlement Skittles Feb 2025 #54
I am well aware of the meaning AND how repukes twist the meaning SheltieLover Feb 2025 #55
well then don't buy into their bullshit Skittles Feb 2025 #56
I'm not buying into anything. Soeaking their language makes a point SheltieLover Feb 2025 #72
Exactly. Pinback Feb 2025 #117
Congress said otherwise Kaleva Feb 2025 #71
The wealthy thank you for paying into it your whole life. They'll take it from here. IronLionZion Feb 2025 #91
Congress reserved the right to change or cancel the program at anytime Kaleva Feb 2025 #69
So wrong, they ARE entitlements. Literally. Legally. Random Boomer Feb 2025 #96
Speaking in "their" language. SheltieLover Feb 2025 #115
Not the context that Republicans put Social Security in and they spew it like religion........ Bengus81 Feb 2025 #120
There's a five sided building across the river... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2025 #7
End the space programs and reap the savings. multigraincracker Feb 2025 #61
+1000000000000000000000 Bengus81 Feb 2025 #147
I'm against anyone getting cuts, but I don't doubt there are some SS payments that are to scammers. Silent Type Feb 2025 #8
I'd bet a good number of MAGATs receive disability benefits in addition to SS. Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #109
Of course.. Mump is fucking with them , too Cha Feb 2025 #162
Yes he is. Eventually someone will have had enough. Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #166
Lots of Somebodies... That's my Cha Feb 2025 #168
It doesn't. We have arrived at this time, and the reality is here. Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #169
He is so full of shyte! LoisB Feb 2025 #9
A lot of shit... 2naSalit Feb 2025 #10
+1 dalton99a Feb 2025 #14
How many prosecutions were made....??? Historic NY Feb 2025 #41
I'm legally disabled and receive benefits in accordance with that ruling. Akoto Feb 2025 #11
Musk has modeled himself after Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Nt BootinUp Feb 2025 #13
That's what I say. Ian Fleming couldn't make this shit up. Marcuse Feb 2025 #28
This is not new news. Greg_In_SF Feb 2025 #15
Of course there will be fraud to some extent Disaffected Feb 2025 #29
Oooh and I am SO sure that repubs won't mind their social security checks to stop halobeam Feb 2025 #16
Could be kkmarie Feb 2025 #182
F Elon F-Elon, the real frauds Meowmee Feb 2025 #17
"100% certain" based on 100% pure delusion. eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #19
It's hard to believe that over 50% of the elderly voted for Trump. Dan Feb 2025 #20
THIS usonian Feb 2025 #35
Perfect Banner to install along Hi-ways!! bluestarone Feb 2025 #98
FAFO flags as well usonian Feb 2025 #101
They expected any SS cuts to only affect younger people's future benefits. Mariana Feb 2025 #81
These people are just asking for it, and that's been the case... keep_left Feb 2025 #128
Welll.... BBbats Feb 2025 #172
Let the Games Begin DET Feb 2025 #21
They'll turn it on the Dems BBbats Feb 2025 #173
Classic fake crisis demanding drastic action. BadgerKid Feb 2025 #22
This scares the hell outta me Figarosmom Feb 2025 #24
I thought about the same thing. Silver Gaia Feb 2025 #42
"I'm a billionaire with nothing better to do so oasis Feb 2025 #26
Coming for it whether he can prove it or not (he can't)... dchill Feb 2025 #31
Claims Some Soc Sec Recipients Are '150 Years Old' moondust Feb 2025 #32
This has been debunked several times over. The old database was written in COBOL and had a default value ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #184
The Acting Inspector General for Social Security was one of the IGs that Trump... LudwigPastorius Feb 2025 #36
He is going to become more of a trapped rat as his stock falls Hope22 Feb 2025 #37
I'm confident he's lying when he says: Zenlitened Feb 2025 #39
Carrying his kid around his head won't save him///// Historic NY Feb 2025 #40
Trump-level Attention? Roy Rolling Feb 2025 #43
"Entitlement" Godot51 Feb 2025 #44
"...he was told..." madamesilverspurs Feb 2025 #45
That part jumped out at me, too DFW Feb 2025 #50
The proof? "I'm a billionaire and I say so." Montauk6 Feb 2025 #46
LYING THROUGH HSI TEETH Jimvanhise Feb 2025 #47
If there is $100 billion in fraud in Social Security.... Mountainguy Feb 2025 #48
Fuck Musk! red dog 1 Feb 2025 #52
MuskRat, ESAD MF!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2025 #58
What does elon skum have to say about the undocumented workers who have... GReedDiamond Feb 2025 #59
He is signaling all those entitlement programs will be shut down completely. LiberalLoner Feb 2025 #60
That drugged up POS better not touch something we paid into Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #65
This should scare everybody on Social Security etc. He's going to use this BS excuse when he starts cutting Liberal In Texas Feb 2025 #67
"Musk... has been tasked with streamlining government processes" Martin Eden Feb 2025 #68
Only Congress can decrease or eliminate SS payments Kaleva Feb 2025 #73
Congress? Lil Lyin king$ above the Laws no need... Justice matters. Feb 2025 #95
When is the media going to ask for proof of these baseless claims? Emile Feb 2025 #74
I guarantee if Mee Maw in BFE Arkansas stops getting her SSI and Medicare payments Best_man23 Feb 2025 #75
There will be torches and pitchforks C_U_L8R Feb 2025 #76
The disabled Johnny2X2X Feb 2025 #77
I think this asshole needs to a lot of his Ketamine. I mean a real large amount. JohnSJ Feb 2025 #78
Calling AARP Please Read All About Donald Trump Elon Musk Oneear Feb 2025 #79
If he f*cks with SS or Medicare all hell will break out Joinfortmill Feb 2025 #80
hem. from my sources only 2 % dunkoff. AllaN01Bear Feb 2025 #83
This Is McCarthyism DallasNE Feb 2025 #85
Says the biggest fraudster on earth travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #86
Hmmm it's coming Abstractartist Feb 2025 #87
He can go eff himself. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #88
Where's the evidence? If there's so much fraud, he must have lots of evidence right? IronLionZion Feb 2025 #89
Bullshit. Musk is a liar and a master thief. hadEnuf Feb 2025 #92
How can people take this asshole seriously? Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #93
I am about to turn 60, and I seriously doubt that I will ever see a penny GoYouPackersGo Feb 2025 #94
Prove it by forensic accounting and not with teenage hackers or the fraud doesn't exist. Efilroft Sul Feb 2025 #97
oh, that settles it... purr-rat beauty Feb 2025 #99
No accountant only hackers. He is not looking for fraud with no accountants. LizBeth Feb 2025 #102
Has the press demaded specifics? Old Crank Feb 2025 #104
More unproved assertions... returnee Feb 2025 #105
The people in kacekwl Feb 2025 #108
This coming from the same people who got 11 out of 12 claims about USAID waste wrong neohippie Feb 2025 #110
That thing also said there are 150 year olds JustAnotherGen Feb 2025 #112
The latter is something to hope for! SheltieLover Feb 2025 #126
Trash. This is human garbage. Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #114
The "wide spread fraud" fake alarm worked wonders to allow voter purges. pandr32 Feb 2025 #116
He's the fucking fraud! Get this POS maniac out of our government now! Initech Feb 2025 #118
translation barbtries Feb 2025 #119
I assume this is based on Musk's AI analysis of government files. That's a bigger fraud than the one he claims Martin68 Feb 2025 #121
Which wide spread fraud Are We not talking about? damifino10 Feb 2025 #122
And our representatives are complaining because we are calling too much? milestogo Feb 2025 #123
Lying piece of filth Progressive dog Feb 2025 #130
Has been Repeated - Needs to be repeated Lokee11 Feb 2025 #131
The only fraud around Elon Quanto Magnus Feb 2025 #132
I. O. W. Musk is gonna steal it. Botany Feb 2025 #133
Lots of talk about hope today, and hope is strengthening. Nevertheless, hope without works is dead. Magoo48 Feb 2025 #134
My calendar is marked with an "SS" every 4th Wednesday BarbD Feb 2025 #143
His idea of "fraud" is money that isn't paid to him. lastlib Feb 2025 #135
Social Security is not an 'entitlement,' we PAY for it, elleng Feb 2025 #136
Prove It, Elliott RobinA Feb 2025 #137
Fuck you Musk Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2025 #140
Like Trump he is just lying airplaneman Feb 2025 #141
They are trying to start a civil war angrychair Feb 2025 #142
Several issues here. HarryM Feb 2025 #145
That entitlement business bugs the hell out of me, too. Vinca Feb 2025 #146
It IS a fraud! People collect who NEVER PAID into the system. An WHO PAYS for them. The non-rich. Festivito Feb 2025 #148
The real problem is . . . Aussie105 Feb 2025 #149
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Feb 2025 #150
He's full of shit. Just garbage. GreenWave Feb 2025 #151
Pinocchio 🤥 cstanleytech Feb 2025 #152
Certainly there is fraud. Demobrat Feb 2025 #153
What a greed head, a morbidly rich piece of s**t mntleo2 Feb 2025 #158
YOu're the Fucking FRAUD, Fucking Fish head! Cha Feb 2025 #159
I think an overdose is coming for him. City Lights Feb 2025 #161
Baka Yaro YoshidaYui Feb 2025 #163
HE is the culprit. live love laugh Feb 2025 #164
As a retired person, this is some scary shit... mitch96 Feb 2025 #165
Widespread fraud should equate to at least SOME indictments, no? Shermann Feb 2025 #167
Someone needs to ask him how Social Security, soldierant Feb 2025 #171
R's hate the New Deal. slightlv Feb 2025 #174
You've not seen open support from Repubs for gutting SS misanthrope Feb 2025 #181
Dumb ass Elon dpesn't know the difference between Historic NY Feb 2025 #175
When he takes it all, not if, I sure hope millions of us react in a way that we cant even talk about here. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2025 #176
Musk needs to think a few thing through ThoughtCriminal Feb 2025 #177
I want proof. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2025 #179
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